Grades vs Clown U
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There's a lot more you clearly don't know, so your commentary is coming from straight out of your Cornell ass. If Cornell had a wrestling board I'd go there and whine about something that has zero affect on Cornell. Oh wait, no I wouldn't.
You're absolutely right. "Fat and happy" is an exaggeration.
I think the truth is that we have a lot of guys going 90-95% instead of 100%. I know that feeling because I did it my final season after placing at nationals. You take your foot off the gas just a teensy bit. You don't have as much adrenaline (eye of the tiger?) before each match, especially early in the season, when it doesn't really "count." You don't expect to have to work as hard, especially with lesser opponents. Then you get beat by someone who shouldn't beat you, the way you surprised someone the year before.
It happened to Steve Martin after he AA'd. It happened to Mark Reiland after he won his title. Probably Tom Ryan. Probably John Heffernan. Probably McGinness.
You forget that the reason you won matches, even against lesser opponents, was that you had to really hustle for it. That was 50% of the winning formula.
Watch any Tom or Terry match. They just hustled. Every single match was life or death. That's why they were so great.
You have to hit really crisp shots and finish quickly. You can't hang down there like ADS. You can't get sloppy and get taken down like Marinelli did against Princeton, or like Eierman did against ISU. You can't rely on defense to win, like Young has been doing, or Ybarra (who seems happy just to be in the lineup). Cass got caught because he relaxed. Assad lost because he was coasting along thinking he couldn't lose instead of actively trying to win.
As someone else noted, you don't have Lee & Kemerer out there as role models. So everyone seems to be starting the season more slowly. It's like they're putting themselves on pitch counts.
I'm not trying to bash anyone. It's solvable. It just needs to be solved.
Sorry for the novel-length posts.
Hang your hat on it and give ‘em a slap on the back for me if you get a chance.
I realize it’s the super bowl for you guys, but I doubt those wins will be remembered for long. Forgive me if they don’t mean much to me.
Btw, I like you Tiger and mean no offense personally towards you, but it does blow my mind how many shits and giggles ISU fans get out of those small, not QUITE meaningless victories and have the balls to defend the state of the program. The strategy was clearly to stall like crazy and in some cases try to bait ugly situations on the mat. Pathetic and embarrassing for the sport.
As an Iowan, I wish the rivalry was more healthy ON THE MAT. The sideshow BS is very “meh” for me. Clown shit all around and your staff is very guilty of it. And not just last night. The weigh ins purposely botched, time changes, equipment issues, etc. It’s happened every single time we’ve traveled to Ames. It’s bush league garbage and you know it.
Edited as I was trying to quote you @tigerguy_
I realize it’s the super bowl for you guys, but I doubt those wins will be remembered for long. Forgive me if they don’t mean much to me.
Btw, I like you Tiger and mean no offense personally towards you, but it does blow my mind how many shits and giggles ISU fans get out of those small, not QUITE meaningless victories and have the balls to defend the state of the program. The strategy was clearly to stall like crazy and in some cases try to bait ugly situations on the mat. Pathetic and embarrassing for the sport.
As an Iowan, I wish the rivalry was more healthy ON THE MAT. The sideshow BS is very “meh” for me. Clown shit all around and your staff is very guilty of it. And not just last night. The weigh ins purposely botched, time changes, equipment issues, etc. It’s happened every single time we’ve traveled to Ames. It’s bush league garbage and you know it.
Edited as I was trying to quote you @tigerguy_
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No worries. And I’ve been a Hawk a helluva lot longer than I’ve given a shit about ISU wrestling. Just ask @MitchLL .
But I’m not turning my back on friends for many many years.
Nor do I expect that…. Just wish we could call a spade a spade.
That goofy drama may be exciting for me if the scoreboard wasn’t so lopsided. Here’s to hoping for a healthier rivalry ON THE MAT going forward.
After last nite's "home" dual for Iowa, maybe Dresser reinstalls the curtain to limit Hawk fan's access to the lower bowl?
There's a discussion on CF about being pissed that ISU fans would sell their tix to Hawk fans to allow them so close to the floor.
That chant really was salt in the wound.
There's a discussion on CF about being pissed that ISU fans would sell their tix to Hawk fans to allow them so close to the floor.
That chant really was salt in the wound.
What a petulant and grievous lie.
Ask a female reporter and the dad of the kid he beat in the wrestle off this year
Oh you are so right in that ADS kept his emotions under control. That’s laughable. I’m not anti-ADS, but during this match he lost his cool, provoked or otherwise. And if I’m wrestling him going forward I’m doing my best to provoke him. We can’t afford that. ADS is a huge piece of this championship picture; we can’t afford a DQ in March because a ref doesn’t share the same (it’s not fair; he was provoked) mindset. Trust me, we’re all on the same side and want the same thing…NCAA championships.
Nothing in that match from ADS should be considered losing his cool.
didn’t know you were invited to be in the room…or is this i heard it from someone who might know
Of course not…that’s why he was told to keep his cool. Some of you are making me believe that you watched the dual from a bad vantage point or didn’t watch it at all.
you are piece of PS work. Austin walking off an opponent and slowly hitting the table that btw was far too close to the mat is not doing anything but absolutely staying in control. you are searching hard to make this a negative for Austin. Again since you watched this so many times, how many times did you see Austin’s jersey getting pulled? Austin did just what he needed to do.
Someone watched it from a non Hawk and non Austin view point. You need to go back and watch the replay a 5th time. You are good and being critical of everyone not in blue and white.
didn’t know you were invited to be in the room…or is this i heard it from someone who might know
Iowa Wrestler Austin DeSanto removed from Saturday night ceremony following incident after match
Iowa wrestler Austin DeSanto will not be participating in the team’s ceremonies on Saturday night following an incident with NCAA media officials that occurred after his match on Saturday.
You're a helluva Hawk fan. Maybe you should change colors and become solely a Clown fan. Seems like you, Dresser and St. John would go well together.Iowa Wrestler Austin DeSanto removed from Saturday night ceremony following incident after match
Iowa wrestler Austin DeSanto will not be participating in the team’s ceremonies on Saturday night following an incident with NCAA media officials that occurred after his match on Saturday.www.kcrg.com
yep, we all know what happened and how it was blown out of proportion. bad timing and he was as you see held accountable.Iowa Wrestler Austin DeSanto removed from Saturday night ceremony following incident after match
Iowa wrestler Austin DeSanto will not be participating in the team’s ceremonies on Saturday night following an incident with NCAA media officials that occurred after his match on Saturday.
I’ll cheer spencer, kem, Alex, Cass and the rest as loud as anyone.
But I’m also objective enough to know that Desanto is way past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt.
And I’m also old enough and been around the program enough to know many examples of guys fortunate there wasn’t social media and the internet back in the day
Good for you. I've been around a long time also. That has nothing to do with taking sides in who you root for. I'll never root for anything regarding ISU as long as Dresser is around. Sounds like you can fall in line with St. John and you will all be happy. Enjoy.
It’s been discussed quite a bit on multiple sites, and is fairly evident if you hear his interviews, that ADS is afflicted with autism (certainly on the spectrum). While this condition certainly doesn’t excuse his behavior, which has certainly been cringeworthy at times, it does explain it. It’s obviously been a struggle for the Brands to control his emotions, but they put a lot of effort into it. He’s been held accountable by the staff when he costs the team points due Unsportsmanlike Conduct. Coach Azevedo had his struggles with him as well, and so would any other coach.
how can anyone say anything about desanto after the way the commie wrestled him
I’ve cracked the code. Dresser was doing some research and found that Cross Country was the team that consistently does better than Iowa so he instructed his team that running from us was the best strategy for a victory. It explains the lack of action from the ISU wrestlers.
I can tell you're one of those guys who just won't quit...and I'm ok with that; we all take a stand on something. WRT the singlet getting pulled, I will say Austin handled that quite well. Again, I'm not anti-ADS like you're seemingly trying to making me out to be. Yet at the same time I'm not going to agree with something that I don't think is correct/accurate no matter how may times you send me these love letters. I'm thinking the reason that you're on the scout team might be because of a much needed name change for whatever reason. Just a thought...
Ybarra was a disappointment, Terukina looks good. Warner doing Warner things, guy drives me nuts but YB is going to have serious problems the minute he gets taken down. Still, very talented guy. You left out Murin stepping on the mat for the first time this season and beating the second best guy on ISU's roster. Put our actual lineup out there and that 22-11 win suddenly becomes 32-8, 35-5 if Assad goes and beats Coleman, who didn't look great. 37-5 if ISU's 133 actually wrestles instead of pulling hair and running to the edge.
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Critical of everyone not in blue and white? So because I won't talk trash about the PSU wrestlers I'm critical of everyone not in blue and white? You're a piece of work. Your life must suck pretty bad if the only way you can get any self-satisfaction is by bashing people on this site.
125: D Did nothing. At least be like Wilson and take some real shots.
133: C ADS let the guy get in his head and didn't wrestle his match.
141: B+ Concur... got the major but gave up a sloppy TD.
149: B+ Concur...tough win in season debut.
157: C I really think he was told to fight the good fight and not get bonused.
165: B+ I like that he ensured he had bonus points while working for the fall.
174: B- I wish he would have been more offense minded.
184: A- Wilson wrestled the 8th ranked wrestler and was the only guy taking shots.
197: D Concur with others. JW being JW.
285: A Never stopped working.
Jesus. You have a tight grip on those pearls!! Ask ADS if he thinks he’s being exploited. Get a grip you sound like a ninny.
ADS is not without his faults but I maintain that he’s actively working on getting better, but he’s not perfect. You can see him tell himself to calm down. Three years ago that wasn’t a thought that entered his head. Now kick rocks guy.
I think it's sad that you're implying that TnT are exploiting ADS. I like to think of TnT as good men with very high moral standards and I don't think for a second they're exploiting ADS. I'm confident ADS is wrestling for Iowa because he wants to be wearing that black and gold singlet and he wants to be performing on the biggest stage in college wrestling.
If this was in fact the case he wouldn't be allowed by them to behave how he does.
its posters like you that for the most part make me glad I stay off this site. You know nothing about me or my life and I would never presume to bad mouth yours. but that’s me, btw, it;s not just your refusal to be critical of PS, it’s that you have no problem whenever possible doing it to hawkeyes.
Yeah, I missed that too...and also want to see the photo. I said he lost his cool a bit, not that he lost his mind..
125 D back up doing back up things
133 D needs to keep his composure better but I don't see it happening at this stage in his career. Iowa had better prepare for a lot of wrestlers employing the same tactics to get a rise out of desanto now that they've seen this.
141 A not much else to say here.
149 B+ solid performance from murin
157 C exactly what you'd expect to see in this match. Wish young would have gone for it and taken some risks but that's really not his style.
165 A- Got bonus points looked tough. Wish he had a turn that isn't named after his coaches.
174 B- not bad but not his best either
184 D
197 F this was not a R16 performance which is a far cry from the Warner who was contending for a title last March.
285 A Cass doing Cass things
Referees F - no control
133 D needs to keep his composure better but I don't see it happening at this stage in his career. Iowa had better prepare for a lot of wrestlers employing the same tactics to get a rise out of desanto now that they've seen this.
141 A not much else to say here.
149 B+ solid performance from murin
157 C exactly what you'd expect to see in this match. Wish young would have gone for it and taken some risks but that's really not his style.
165 A- Got bonus points looked tough. Wish he had a turn that isn't named after his coaches.
174 B- not bad but not his best either
184 D
197 F this was not a R16 performance which is a far cry from the Warner who was contending for a title last March.
285 A Cass doing Cass things
Referees F - no control
Somewhere on twitter. It was a screenshot of when the Iowa wrestlers were all pointing up at the scoreboard while the ISU wrestlers were yelling at them after winning a match. Some facebook/twitter account used it to claim ASD was flipping off the crowd. It's great what narratives you can contrive when you go frame by frame to find something that fits it.
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