Guess which 3 states are decreasing in population the most?
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Soda and twinkies don’t help the people, they’re luxuries. Hotdogs aren’t great but I’m not mad about 10 dogs for $1. It’s hard for some people, man.
If Iowa had jobs and decent entertainment options, a lot of folks might overlook the cold. But as it currently has neither (and likely won’t for the foreseeable future), Iowa will continue to stagnate.
Those are Oscar MayerDo you know where I can get some of them hotdogs for a dime?
These have gone a bit over a dime now, my bad
Not sure why the link says that, it’s a link to crappy bar s hotdogs
People move for jobs, housing, and weather in no particular order. Nobody's sitting around doing the math on what their state tax return will look like before making that decision
Chicago and the 4 counties around Chicago greatly sewer the Illinois numbers, but it has always been that way. My dad used to complain about this when I was growing up….and he’d be 105 if alive today. Get away from Chicago, and you have Iowa and Mizzery…..Chicago makes Illinois unique.
Top three are NY, Illinois, and Louisiana. Therefore I’d say major urban centers with major housing inequality, which exacerbates crime issues.
I think Iowa is still running a nice surplus without covid funds and more projected tax cuts. Unlike other states they haven't blown thru the lottery and sports gambling/casino $$ with smart spending.
I would like to see drug screen requirements for EBT cards before restrictions on what you can buy. Both are absolutely 100% needed though.
What's funny is the joke of EBT $ we received the first 6 months of having my first child we strictly bought healthy food with it because we thought that was all you could get with it. The next time I had to send paperwork for more EBT they said we'd get like $19 a month and I said screw it.
Weather doesn't seem to be a large driver of demographic changes per the article. It's cold 3 months of the year, which when you consider that areas of growth are intolerably hot for 3, or more, months per year, why aren't people flocking to the low tax haven that is Iowa? It's rather provincial to say there is nothing here. We've got stuff to do, and it's a short trip to states with more stuff to do.
Not forever. In a couple of years, Iowa has some hard choices to make. And the choices involve “Maintaining” or “cutting” services……growth is not a consideration.Iowa has to continue to invest In itself and its infrastructure to maintain its current standing.
Holy crap! When did people start moving to Florida?!?!
This is concerning. We have been barely growing only from 7 to 22 million people last 50 years.
This is concerning. We have been barely growing only from 7 to 22 million people last 50 years.
The increase in the ability to work remotely has played a part as well.
Quite a few folks that moved to Florida from up north the last few years fall into that category.
Covid obviously speeded up that inevitable process.
Folks that fall into that category are primarily middle class on up....it'll be interesting to see how that effects northern states long term.
I could see a change to state tax laws to try and capture some of that lost tax revenue.
I wonder why. 🤔
Population map reveals states growing, shrinking the quickest
A demography expert said the numbers are "most interesting" and most likely due to domestic migration.www.newsweek.com
Is there a place where it breaks it down by county?
Yeah, this has been going on for decades. In the 80's people from New York and New Jersey, after building up massive equity in their homes, would sell their house and move to Florida where they no longer have to shovel snow, and they could live comfortably on the profit from their house.
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Wow, California lost 75k people...that's almost .002% of their population.
It's probably already been posted, but isn't this to be expected with the later half of the boomer generation retiring?
Depends on who they lost. If they lost folks that actually pay taxes upper middle income on up it'll have an effect on the state budget.
The graph in the link shows they lost some income tax revenue the last couple years.
State Tax Collections: Total Taxes for California
Graph and download economic data for State Tax Collections: Total Taxes for California (QTAXTOTALQTAXCAT3CANO) from Q1 1994 to Q4 2023 about collection, tax, CA, and USA.
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I didn't know if perhaps I missed something, but it did appear this was based on raw numbers, not on percentages.
Yeah, the article said they lost 75k people. 75k of 39ish million is around .002% (I think the exact was .0019).
Iowa on the other hand has grown by a robust 328k folks in this same time period! Eat your hearts out, Florida!
I didn't know how common this still was. Looks like the states that still tax groceries are ones dominated by "low tax" Republicans.
Virginia
Mississippi
Utah
Tennessee
South Dakota
Oklahoma
Missouri
Kansas
Illinois
Idaho
Hawaii
Alabama
It’s terrible. Taxes on groceries are incredibly regressive. They should be banned everywhere.
Must be a lot of Illinois and Minnesota people trying to escape high taxes and/or brutally cold weather.
If you don’t think weather is a driver in northern to southern migration, we can agree to disagree. The weather in the Midwest is intolerable for huge portions of people and it was the primary driver for me to leave Iowa.
Hot summers > cold winter
People don’t move to Iowa because it sucks. There’s nothing to do there and the people are boring.
It takes 1 winter outside of the Midwest or Northeast until you say that you'll never go back. Nobody likes winter, and anybody telling you that they don't mind it is lying
I think people leave where they grew up primarily for better economic opportunities, but especially for younger people, it's not the only factor. My son is moving to Vegas (we live in Illinois but he's currently in West Lafayette). He would have moved back to the Chicago area but his best job offer out of school gave him Tampa and Vegas as the 2 options. Tampa is HQ, so it might have been a better career move but he's a climber that prefers the mountains, so he chose Vegas. My daughter's at Iowa, and wouldn't consider living anywhere in the Midwest with the exception of Chicago as a landing spot. She also wants to move out west. Colorado or the West Coast would be her preferred landing spot if you asker her today.
They’re also conveniently omitting that any “growth” is occurring in the DSM and IC metros, basically nowhere else.
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