Agreed. At first I liked Rhaenyra and disliked Alicent mostly because she ruined a friendship and snuck into the royal family to pursue her fathers (and likely her) glory. But, Rhaenyras behavior makes her hard to like. Throw in the incest and it’s all just weird. That said, her boys are far more likable than Alicents kids.
I agree. I'm still loving it. It's probably better than GOT seasons 7-8 but not 1-6. They are staying very close to the book (which I think is the right decision) and the history book is a lot narrower in scope than the other novels. With that said, there are more players that will enter the picture. Next episode looks like the last time jump, then I think time slows way down and things get a little back to normal pace-wise going forward.
100% team Rhaenyra. Alicent has become a badass but Otto is a douche and don't want to see them win the game he's been playing since vysery's wife died.
I'd say last night's episode delivered the goods. Long incest sex scene, deranged psycho kids stabbing each other, lots of flying dragon shots.
I agree. This episode finally had me saying No f’ing Way’. More than once.
You seem like an avid book reader who knows what is going on. I am not a book reader and wanted to see the family tree. Holy shit it is even more complicated than I thought. If you start with Dany on the bottom right and work your way up, by my count, Daemon and Rhaenyra are her great great great great great great grandparents. Also, a lot of the family tree dies on the vine.
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Yeah, I'm a completionist for ASOIAF and I find I am constantly checking the Westeros Wiki to remember who was who and when. That tree has some spoilers in it. I imagine there are a few people in the series finale that haven't even been born yet.You seem like an avid book reader who knows what is going on. I am not a book reader and wanted to see the family tree. Holy shit it is even more complicated than I thought. If you start with Dany on the bottom right and work your way up, by my count, Daemon and Rhaenyra are her great great great great great great grandparents. Also, a lot of the family tree dies on the vine.
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I would add that the Rhaenyra/Daemon niece/uncle marriage is the least creepy incestuous marriage on the family tree.
I would buy them a gift from the King's Landing Macy's gift registry!
I like the narrow scope of this show. Keeps things tight, on point, and moving along. GoT had some story lines that just wandered. I mean, you do all remember Dorne, right? Or all the time we spent waiting wondering when exactly Dany was going to finally head to Westeros.
The character development is lacking compared to GoT for sure. Probably the lack of deeper source material
At this point in GoT, 7 episodes in, who did you like? Ned, Jon, that's about it. Jamie was a POS. Tyrion hadn't really fleshed out yet.
Easily the hottest one on the show thus far so that goes a long way. As for GOT, 7 episodes in, tyrion, Jon , Ned, didn’t hate cersei at that point, and Bron.
No boobies, though. We've seen more gross wounds being sewn up, and pus filled wounds on the king's back then boobies.
Yeah, dead, or coming back sometime? Seems weird if he ever came back. I guess all of this was just a practice run for when Viserys dies?
I'd expect the pace to "normalize" here now that the king has finally passed. Everything has been a buildup to this moment, most of the main characters are present. Everything has been a prologue to this moment.
What’s a PTWP? Sorry if I’m just watching the show and wasn’t obsessive enough to read all 18,000 pages of the books, twice, then draw a flow chart on my bedroom wall of all the characters.
You mean the vision of the PTWP? If so, then yeah, it's the whole basis and genesis for the entire GOT tv show and associated world. Aegon is the Prince that was promised, who is Jon Snow and the reason its called A Song of Ice and Fire since he's half Stark and Targ. Duh.
The prince that was promised is a prophesied leader or savior. The prince may be part of an ancient prophecy which foretells the coming of a hero to deliver the world from darkness. A "bleeding star" is supposed to herald the coming of the prince.[1] The prince is said to have "a song", the song of ice and fire.[2]What’s a PTWP? Sorry if I’m just watching the show and wasn’t obsessive enough to read all 18,000 pages of the books, twice, then draw a flow chart on my bedroom wall of all the characters.
So ‘Ol Viserys was dreaming of Jon Snow all along, huh?
Lol yeah. I haven't read the Fire and Blood novel, which is what this series is based off, but the Prince that was Promised (PTWP) is heavily alluded to be Jon Snow. Rhaegar Targaryan, Jon's Dad initially thought himself to be the ptwp, but after diving deep into some old history books, later thought that his son with a Stark (Ice and Fire) would be. I'm not sure if this is in the Fire and Blood novel, but the show dove into it a little deeper when Viserys told Rhanerya about the secret propecy when he named her as heir in an earlier episode. And at the end of last nights show, he thought he was still talking to his daughter before dying, but it was Alicent, who thought he was talking about her Aegon (the window masturbator), not the future Aegon (Jon Snow). Too many Aegons (i think there have been 3 in HOtD so far, and 5 mentioned.What’s a PTWP? Sorry if I’m just watching the show and wasn’t obsessive enough to read all 18,000 pages of the books, twice, then draw a flow chart on my bedroom wall of all the characters.
So ‘Ol Viserys was dreaming of Jon Snow all along, huh?
The Prince that was promised is a prophecy about a future warrior that will end defeat the white walkers. He is supposed to be a child born of fire and ice. Rhaegar believed at first that he was that prince. Then later he changed his mind and believed that he would father that prince. He was married to a Martell, from the south of the continent, and had a few kids with her. But later "kidnapped" Lyanna Stark to have babies with her. Because he kidnapped her it led to Robert's rebellion and the eventual events of the GoT show/books ~15 years later. Jon Snow is the child of Lyanna and Rhaegar. The Targaryan blood representing fire and the Stark blood representing ice.What’s a PTWP? Sorry if I’m just watching the show and wasn’t obsessive enough to read all 18,000 pages of the books, twice, then draw a flow chart on my bedroom wall of all the characters.
So ‘Ol Viserys was dreaming of Jon Snow all along, huh?
Yep...just clarifying that Lyanna married Rhaegar and they were most definitely in love. Robert Baratheon loved her and expected to marry her, and believed she was kidnapped and raped by Rhaegar.
In the books we don't know that Rhaegar married Lyanna or that she loved him. I think the fanbase generally assumes that to be true though. This stuff wasn't shown in the show until after it started going off the rails though. That's why I put kidnapped in quotes. GRRM may decide to make changes if he ever finishes the book series, which he won't.
