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Hunter Garvin

Iowa wrestling has the ability to get anyone, but there’s no denying the bad blood between the Carews and Brands. Maybe things have smoothed over a bit, but this notion certainly isn’t fiction. And let’s face it, it would be bad business for any club coach to project their experiences on to an athlete. But there’s most definitely an ISU flavor at BGWC. And DSJ didn’t leave IC on good terms either. Dylan and Derek are very tight. Just a fact. Who’s “right” or “wrong” is a matter of opinion. I say this with the a ton of respect and admiration of Dylan, Derek, and our staff. DSJ is one of my all time favorites…. On and off the mat.
I recall seeing a video a year or two ago (I believe produced by TrackWrestling) featuring the BGWC new wrestling facility. Tom Lepic was featured as the primary contributor. Has he taken sides in the “bad blood” or is he neutral?
 
I don't doubt it a bit. But Iowa's "business model" is a lot better than Iowa State's is, and as long as that holds true it won't and doesn't matter. The proof is in the pudding, and wherever Hunter Garvin ends up isnt changing that. Pimple on an elephant's ass sort of thing (no disrespect to young Mr. Garvin, I hope he's happy wherever he lands).
My question is why the bad blood between any former wrestlers. It seems like it is happening a lot and not a good look whoever is at fault. Just to name some of the former wrestlers we have heard have bad blood with the Brands brothers - Carew, DSJ, Metcalf, Ramos, Gilman, Steiner, Schwab just to name a few that have been mentioned on this board in the past. I'm sure I'm missing some as well.
 
It’s not public business. Why are these concepts so hard for you to grasp. It’s between them and no ones place share details on public forum. You have become insufferable. Your dog recently die or something??
You want to act like Mr big insider all the time. Willing to come out here and state that there is bad blood, but then back away on the details. I guess I don’t understand your wanting the approval of this board so badly that you feel the need to come here and share cryptic messages full of a bunch of nothingness. If you have the inside info, go ahead and share it.
 
You want to act like Mr big insider all the time. Willing to come out here and state that there is bad blood, but then back away on the details. I guess I don’t understand your wanting the approval of this board so badly that you feel the need to come here and share cryptic messages full of a bunch of nothingness. If you have the inside info, go ahead and share it.
Lol. It’s not my place to share the details you miserable dickpiece. Go get laid or jerk off or something.
 
But it’s your job to share the story, just not the details?
Story?? I’m Just validating the “rumor”. If I shared the what’s and whys that would be pretty disrespectful of me to the parties involved. Why am I not surprised you can’t wrap your tiny brain around that?

Seriously man, you’ve become a running joke. I don’t do it often but it’s time for the ignore button for you. Your contributions here are a complete waste of everyone’s time.
 
I’m sure you know the details as well. Would it be good form for you share them here? I already know the answer but could you please explain it to Crabs like he’s 5 or mentally challenged?
I love these super easy questions, even when they aren't directed towards me.

No it would not be good form, nor anybody else's business as you've correctly stated. This is obvious to the sane folks.

The fact that crabcakes is up in arms about it is just a bonus! LOL!
 
I love these super easy questions, even when they aren't directed towards me.

No it would not be good form, nor anybody else's business as you've correctly stated. This is obvious to the sane folks.

The fact that crabcakes is up in arms about it is just a bonus! LOL!
So, are you calling me sane? ‘Cause I’m sure there are some around here who would disagree. Lol
 
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I’m sure you know the details as well. Would it be good form for you share them here? I already know the answer but could you please explain it to Crabs like he’s 5 or mentally challenged?
I’m just curious where the line is drawn? So, it is ok to come on and “validate rumors”, but crosses the line to explain at all.

If I start guessing some of the reasons, can you “validate” them too?
 
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It’s not public business. Why are these concepts so hard for you to grasp. It’s between them and no ones place share details on public forum. You have become insufferable. Your dog recently die or something??
Too many drama queens, tabloid addicted, soap opera stars on here. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. Dirty laundry should not be spread on here. It CANNOT help but only hurt.
 
I’m just curious where the line is drawn? So, it is ok to come on and “validate rumors”, but crosses the line to explain at all.

If I start guessing some of the reasons, can you “validate” them too?
A. Yes.

B. No

Do you have a learning disability? Honest question. Just so we can know if we should feel sorry for you.
 
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Too many drama queens, tabloid addicted, soap opera stars on here. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. Dirty laundry should not be spread on here. It CANNOT help but only hurt.
I agree, that’s why I’m surprised Gobblin is spreading it.
 
No you do not agree. You are the drama queen that wants to stick your nose up everyone else's personal business. Grow up or leave.
Serious question isn’t that what the message board is for? We talk about wrestlers weights, their off season habits, their work ethic, their families, and everything in between. If we stayed out of people’s business this board would have zero posts.
 
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Serious question isn’t that what the message board is for? We talk about wrestlers weights, their off season habits, their work ethic, their families, and everything in between. If we stayed out of people’s business this board would have zero posts.
Imagine being so dumb to compose this post and think it’s relevant to this topic. You’re either a 8th grade level troll or truly a functioning idiot. Ignore button engaged. Simply because I feel a little dumber each time I take the time to read your incoherent drivel.
 
Imagine being so dumb to compose this post and think it’s relevant to this topic. You’re either a 8th grade level troll or truly a functioning idiot. Ignore button engaged. Simply because I feel a little dumber each time I take the time to read your incoherent drivel.
You said you ignored me already, so do it already. I wasn’t talking to you.

And I’d say my troll game is much above 8th grade level. Well either that, or you are at an even lower level. Never reeled an easier one in my life.
 
i do not know why anyone would put crotchcritter on ignore, he is very entertaining after he gets exposed as a joke.
 
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Not quite “insider” information here, but DSJ did an interview with Flo a couple years back about leaving the HWC and Iowa program. He said that he and the Brands haven’t said so much as hello to each other since 2015. CP essentially asked if he parted on bad terms and DSJ said no, and added that he just went his own way. He had a lot of injuries, so he transitioned to coaching. He credited Terry to helping him get back on the mat during an injury plagued season in 2012. The T Ram thing with Tom was pretty public as well.
 
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Absolutely no inside knowledge, but my 100% guess is Carew's bad blood with the Iowa staff has more to do with his allegiance to DSJ than anything else. I'm also guessing that it has a very minor bearing in where his kids go although I bet it does have a minor bearing. Definitely worth the Iowa's staff to mend fences in my opinion.
 
My question is why the bad blood between any former wrestlers. It seems like it is happening a lot and not a good look whoever is at fault. Just to name some of the former wrestlers we have heard have bad blood with the Brands brothers - Carew, DSJ, Metcalf, Ramos, Gilman, Steiner, Schwab just to name a few that have been mentioned on this board in the past. I'm sure I'm missing some as well.

The Brands' generally do not take kindly to those who choose to become competitors. It's how they are wired. That doesn’t mean some fences don’t get mended over time.
 
i remember hearing a while back on the boards that dsj wanted morningstar's job when he went into coaching and wasn't happy he didn't get it.
 
It would be nice to get a big over view of the problems. The guy thought he did not get a fair shot at a wrestle off. He felt he was lied to. The coach felt the kids stabbed him in the back for no reason. yada yada yada...

People like the Brands - who are ultra competitive - are not going to go thru life without making some enemies. (and I am not saying they are to blame for any of it) That is to be expected. We just like to hear the gossip and details. Call us immature if you like. That would be an upgrade for many of us. :)

Personally, I think I could figure out that not everyone loves everyone and that people have disagreements. But, I am also sure that other coaches would use it big time in the recruiting process against Iowa. So that means we just have to use our imagination, because this is something we cannot google.
 
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The Brands' generally do not take kindly to those who choose to become competitors. It's how they are wired. That doesn’t mean some fences don’t get mended over time.
The world of college recruiting is extremely cut throat. There is no such thing as when a salesman leaves the firm and signs a "do not compete" clause so territories are not imposed upon. In my outsiders opinion, I would guess you know exactly where you stand with the Brands'. You are now in competition and they want to win. Once that is no longer part of the equation, maybe things will change.
 
The world of college recruiting is extremely cut throat. There is no such thing as when a salesman leaves the firm and signs a "do not compete" clause so territories are not imposed upon. In my outsiders opinion, I would guess you know exactly where you stand with the Brands'. You are now in competition and they want to win. Once that is no longer part of the equation, maybe things will change.
I think this is it, and I respect the tenacity, but I also think this could be an area of improvement for them. It might not be a huge deal, but it certainly isn't a good thing that there are several high profile former hawkeyes who have "bad blood" with the program. I'm hoping the transition for the current group goes smoother.
 
I think this is it, and I respect the tenacity, but I also think this could be an area of improvement for them. It might not be a huge deal, but it certainly isn't a good thing that there are several high profile former hawkeyes who have "bad blood" with the program. I'm hoping the transition for the current group goes smoother.
It most certainly will…. I think the staff has made a conscious effort in that regard over the past 5-6 years.
 
Everyone needs to reel in the go go gadget arms and stop reaching for things. People like to make things up and act important. Nobody is telling guys to not go here or there. And the clubs are competitiors nobody hates anyone. All just the drama people want for some reason drama makes many people tick
 
Everyone needs to reel in the go go gadget arms and stop reaching for things. People like to make things up and act important. Nobody is telling guys to not go here or there. And the clubs are competitiors nobody hates anyone. All just the drama people want for some reason drama makes many people tick
You referring to me Korby?
 
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