Iowa/iowa state thoughts..

[reddogg26]

125: GMAN with a tech 5-0 Hawks
133: Hall Dec. 5-3 Hawks. Hopefully this is just a loss by decision here. Could be more as Hall is very dangerous.
141:Carton by Dec. Love what I am seeing out of Topher thus far. 8-3 Hawks
149: Sorensen by Dec. 11-3 Hawks. Could be more here going with just a regular dec. for now.
157: Kemdawg with a Major Dec. 14-3 Hawks! Love Kemdawg! He will continue to better each week. Outside of Nolf & maybe Smith he can and will beat anybody across from him!
165: Gunther guts out a Dec. Making it 17-3 Hawks!
Now it could get VERY dicey from 174 to Hwt. Just some potential BAD match ups for our upper weights.
174: Meyer wins a UGLY match by 2 or 3. 20-3 Hawks. isu could start a serious run with 174 but I have faith in Meyer right now. Did I just say that???
184: Match of the night since we know Clark is out. Oh wait is Downey going to wrestle. BIG MATCH here. HUGE in so many ways other than just for the dual IF it is Downey. But I think Brooks finds a way with a little Carver magic to get the dec. Honestly Dudley scares me a bit more than Martin right now. 23-3
197: Wilcke is going to be so much better for us at 184 next. He's just a bit undersized right now. Crazy thing is he was right there with #4 last week. But I'll give this one to isu here by close Dec. Making it 23-6.
Hwt: What I would give to have Stoll ready to roll. He would go out there and get a pin for us! But without him it will be a 9 point swing. Holloway loses by Dec. Making it 23-9 Hawks!!
We COULD lose 133, 174, 184, 197 & Hwt. Even IF we do GMAN will save us with a tech fall!!

 

[edquinn06]

25 Simmons in better then Larson and could hold the match to a major, but he won't be able to handle Gilmans pace so probably a tech
33 Hall doesn't have the top skills like Gross so I expect the match to be alittle closer. Hall also doesn't have that killer mentality so I figure a dec but could easily be a major.
49 will be a major.
74 Meyer wins comfortable just like his 7-1 match with the same opponent last year.
84- Brooks dec. Match of the night.
97- I'm not sure who they will use but Cash can roll with any of them. Dec Wilcke
285-Holloway dec Smith.

 

[Omahahawk86]

No Downey.

This is gonna be ugly.

 

[wasdt21]

nice post op 23-9 seems about right, but except for hall, spoon and queen I would have a hard time naming any other state guys.

 

[Azchief32]

No Downey.

This is gonna be ugly.

Damnit. Thought he skipped CKLV to be ready for Iowa vs ISU?

 

[UndercoverHawk]

25 Simmons in better then Larson and could hold the match to a major, but he won't be able to handle Gilmans pace so probably a tech
33 Hall doesn't have the top skills like Gross so I expect the match to be alittle closer. Hall also doesn't have that killer mentality so I figure a dec but could easily be a major.
49 will be a major.
74 Meyer wins comfortable just like his 7-1 match with the same opponent last year.
84- Brooks dec. Match of the night.
97- I'm not sure who they will use but Cash can roll with any of them. Dec Wilcke
285-Holloway dec Smith.

Hall is a gamer. He's not great on top and atrocious on bottom but he is electric on his feet. If Phil isn't ready to go I think Earl could rack up takedowns. With that said I think 42-3 sounds good. Copy the football team. Heck copy them even more and save your best for the end of the season!

 

[SPOONER]

125: Gilman major Simmons. Could get ugly if this is the first match of the night as Simmons cuts a lot. 4-0

133: Hall major Laux 4-4 Hall hits a big move at some point

141: Carton dec Meeks 7-4 Meeks is Meeks

149: Sorensen maj Straw 11-4 Sorensen late TD to secure major with riding time

157: Kemerer TF Diblasi 16-4 Kem with a 4 pointer early and it's TD city from there

165: Gunther dec Pestano 19-4 Gunther grinds one out

174: Meyer dec Weatherspoon 22-4 Meyer just a step ahead

184: Brooks TF Powell 27-4 No Downey no problem

197: Wilcke dec Teague 30-4 Could be Harrington. Still going with Wilcke

HWT: Smith dec Holloway 30-7 Smith too big for Holloway

 

[championhawk]

Brooks and Wilke flip flop for the rest of the season. Cash majors Downey while his mom kicks PD2's ass in the stands.

 

[MitchL]

The possibility of Storr @ 141 has been discussed in another thread. I need help from the smarter posters about the way decisions are made about where they start duals.

The worst case scenario for Iowa is this, to me... they start at 149. Iowa somehow loses 184/197/Hwt/133. It comes down to ISU being able to win with Storr rather than Meeks and they pull the shirt. That's assuming no falls before that point. Given that setup... I think Iowa wins with bonus from Sorensen and/or Kem.

Am I nuts?

BTW: Only serious responses on that last sentence.

 

[pumpdog20]

Iowa loses 5 matches to Iowa State, then NC is no where in the cards for the Hawks this year.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

The possibility of Storr @ 141 has been discussed in another thread. I need help from the smarter posters about the way decisions are made about where they start duals.

The worst case scenario for Iowa is this, to me... they start at 149. Iowa somehow loses 184/197/Hwt/133. It comes down to ISU being able to win with Storr rather than Meeks and they pull the shirt. That's assuming no falls before that point. Given that setup... I think Iowa wins with bonus from Sorensen and/or Kem.

Am I nuts?

BTW: Only serious responses on that last sentence.

I'm sure I'm no smarter than you are, but if one of the head coaches doesn't want to start the meet at 125, they draw for the starting weight.

And yes, you're nuts.

 

[goiahawkeyes]

125: Gilman major over Simmons. Gilman will have a chance at a tech late...he'll wear on the freshman big time. 4-0 IA

133: Hall decision over Laux. Will be close to a major, but Hall hasn't impressed me yet this year. 4-3 IA

141: Carton decision over Moreno. Carton wins by 3-4. 7-3 IA

149: Sorenson major over Briceno. Workman-like, nothing flashy. 11-3 IA

157: Kemerer major over Rodriguez-Spencer. Kemerer blows the doors off him here at home. 15-3 IA

165:Gunther decision over Pestano. Same as 141, 3-4 point win. 18-3 IA

174: Meyer decision over Weatherspoon. This should be the match of the night. Meyer gets it done again. 21-3 IA

184: Brooks decision over Downey OR major over backup. Doesn't sound like Downey is going to go...if he does, Brooks wins...quite easily too. If Downey doesn't go it's a least a major. 24-3 IA

197: Wilcke decision over Harrington. This is going to be a really good match. I'm saying Wilcke wins by a point or two. 27-3

HWT: Holloway decision over Smith. Holloway is giving up a ton of weight here, but that might actually help him against Smith. Smith doesn't move....at all. If Holloway can get to angles he gets the win. If Holloway just ties up with Smith and isn't moving, well then he'll lose. Give me Holloway. 30-3 IA

My prediction is including Downey and Holloway knocking off Smith. So there's a little wiggle room. This could end up anywhere from 31-3 to 27-6...either way Iowa cruises.

 

[Sandor45]

PD3 better show. If he doesn't, than Zane Richards told me that he forfeits his All-Universe Team member status.
Really tho, I want to see Downey vs Brooks more than I did Hall vs Clark by a lot.

 

[CradleKing26]

It's too bad this isn't competitive anymore.

The 2009 dual in Ames is one of my favorite wrestling memories and the best dual I've ever been to.

 

[crablegs1]

It's too bad this isn't competitive anymore.

The 2009 dual in Ames is one of my favorite wrestling memories and the best dual I've ever been to.

Agreed. One of the best duals I've been to was the 2010 National Dual finals in the UNI Dome. Started out with a barnburner at 125 9-8 win for McD over Long. Some good match ups with Reader/MStar and Ward/Keddy.

 

[Gobblin]

Agreed. One of the best duals I've been to was the 2010 National Dual finals in the UNI Dome. Started out with a barnburner at 125 9-8 win for McD over Long. Some good match ups with Reader/MStar and Ward/Keddy.

That dual, the national duals in Cedar Falls, and the Midlands final between McD and Long were some of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen.

 

[SimpsonStorm]

If Downey was Healthy, it would be an interesting dual. Storr is pretty good. I think he may beat Carton. I am a Hawk fan, but worst case scenario I could see this being 20-16 Iowa.

125 - Iowa Maj (4-0)
133 - ISU Maj (4-4)
141 - ISU Dec (4-7) If Storr goes
149 - Iowa Maj (8-7)
157 - Iowa Mah (12-7)
165 - ISU Dec (12-10)
174 - ISU Dec (12-13)
184 - Iowa Tech (17-13)
197 - Iowa Dec (20-13)
285 - ISU Dec (20-16)

With Downey in the lineup, I think ISU would have had a shot because I think the first 8 stay the same and ISU bumps Downey to wrestle Wilcke. Making it a 17-16 dual with heavyweight to go. Obviously, this is worst case scenario for Iowa, but it's not crazy. Iowa has not impressed me yet, and they are battling injuries.

 

[crablegs1]

That dual, the national duals in Cedar Falls, and the Midlands final between McD and Long were some of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen.

Here is the national duals match. Unbelievable that McD didn't get taken down at 7:25 and turned it into his own takedown. A preview of the national finals between two freshman. How great would it have been to get 4 years of these 2?

 

[Gobblin]

Here is the national duals match. Unbelievable that McD didn't get taken down at 7:25 and turned it into his own takedown. A preview of the national finals between two freshman. How great would it have been to get 4 years of these 2?

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Fans most certainly got cheated out of that... What a match! Those two really let it fly. What a warrior McD was, he just refused to lose every position!

 

[SPOONER]

If Downey was Healthy, it would be an interesting dual. Storr is pretty good. I think he may beat Carton. I am a Hawk fan, but worst case scenario I could see this being 20-16 Iowa.

125 - Iowa Maj (4-0)
133 - ISU Maj (4-4)
141 - ISU Dec (4-7) If Storr goes
149 - Iowa Maj (8-7)
157 - Iowa Mah (12-7)
165 - ISU Dec (12-10)
174 - ISU Dec (12-13)
184 - Iowa Tech (17-13)
197 - Iowa Dec (20-13)
285 - ISU Dec (20-16)

With Downey in the lineup, I think ISU would have had a shot because I think the first 8 stay the same and ISU bumps Downey to wrestle Wilcke. Making it a 17-16 dual with heavyweight to go. Obviously, this is worst case scenario for Iowa, but it's not crazy. Iowa has not impressed me yet, and they are battling injuries.

If Iowa hasn't impressed you yet, what could you possibly think of ISU? They are also battling injuries: Moreno, Downey, Smith and Harrington to name a few.

Storr is getting handled with relative ease by wrestlers ranked in the teens. He's not a star--yet.

 

[andegre]

I just read The Open Mat's breakdown of Iowa vs ISU and they think that Downey will be wrestling Saturday...makes this MUCH more interesting if that happens.

 

[wasdt21]

was thinking what a warrior mcd is when I read your post gobblin

 

[crablegs1]

I just read The Open Mat's breakdown of Iowa vs ISU and they think that Downey will be wrestling Saturday...makes this MUCH more interesting if that happens.

Please, please, please let this be true.

 

[Jay on HR]

I just read The Open Mat's breakdown of Iowa vs ISU and they think that Downey will be wrestling Saturday...makes this MUCH more interesting if that happens.

I read it earlier and they were talking about "Corey Clark" and "Cashe Wilcke". Maybe it's not fair of me to say this but that's not a positive sign for credibility haha