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Is Alabama one of the 4 best teams where they make the Final 4 CFP? Does the B1G get left out?

If Auburn wins SEC Championship, do BOTH Auburn & Alabama make Final 4 CFP?

  • Yes, the committee will put BOTH Auburn and Alabama in the CFP

    Votes: 48 35.0%

  • No, the committee will NOT put BOTH Auburn and Alabama in the CFP

    Votes: 89 65.0%
  • Total voters
    137
  • Poll closed .
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Vote based on what you think the committee will decide in their final vote, not on what you think personally.

Then discuss what YOU think should happen.

Two SEC schools in the Final 4 would leave out TWO Power 5 schools from the CFP.

The Final 4:

1) Auburn (beat #1 Georgia and #1 Alabama, the SEC Champion)

2) Alabama (been #1 for most of the season. lost tough game on road to Auburn)

3) Power 5 Conference Champion?

4) Power 5 Conference Champion?


Left Out:

Power 5 Conference Champion?

Power 5 Conference Champion?

Ohio State, if they win the B1G Championship?
 
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What I believe would happen and what I believe should happen are two drastically different scenarios. If Auburn wins, Alabama wouldn't even make the SEC Championship, so why should they get a shot to play for the national championship? However a one loss Bama team who lost on the road to their biggest rival will probably get the benefit of the doubt from the committee.

Obviously it depends how the conference championships go too. If Georgia beat Auburn in the rematch, I bet they would be the only SEC team to get in
 
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unoHawkeye said:
What I believe would happen and what I believe should happen are two drastically different scenarios. If Auburn wins, Alabama wouldn't even make the SEC Championship, so why should they get a shot to play for the national championship? However a one loss Bama team who lost on the road to their biggest rival will probably get the benefit of the doubt from the committee.

Obviously it depends how the conference championships go too. If Georgia beat Auburn in the rematch, I bet they would be the only SEC team to get in
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Don't like it but completely agree that they will put both in
 
laidbackdude2011 said:
Of course they will. Wisky will lose to OSU
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If Barrett can't go or is limited, then all bets are off. Wisconsin will beat OSU up front on both sides of the ball like they've done to every team they played.

It's a matter of a) can Hornibrook get out of the offense's way and not turn the ball over and b) can Wisconsin limit big plays in the passing game and Barrett running.

I initially liked the Buckeyes in this game, but right now I'd predict Wisconsin
 
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unoHawkeye said:
If Auburn wins, Alabama wouldn't even make the SEC Championship, so why should they get a shot to play for the national championship?
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Because Ohio State did the same thing last year and got in with one loss. Alabama and either Georgia or Auburn will get into the CFP, but only if Wisconsin loses to Ohio State or Oklahoma loses in B12 championship game.

Then it would be (in no particular order) Auburn/Georgia, Oklahoma/Wisconsin, Alabama, Clemson/Miami.

If both Wisconsin and Oklahoma win then it's Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Clemson/Miami winner, and SEC champ.

Of course, one loss Alabama could supplant one-loss Oklahoma.

lol, I love this. Total crapshoot. One thing is for sure, if Auburn pulls this out, Ohio State is almost certainly eliminated. The teams above them have better arguments even if OSU beats UW: Miami/Clemson, Oklahoma wins B12, Alabama only one loss to top 10 team on the road, Georgia/Auburn winner in SEC title game. Even 2-loss Notre Dame has better losses and wins than OSU. Ohio State is done.
 
mthawkeyes said:
So the best teams that Alabama has beaten are 8-3 LSU, 8-4 Miss St., and 7-4 Texas A&M. Take away the name brand, and I don't see it.
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Depends on how far Alabama falls in the polls. I doubt it's far, but should fall out of the top 4 for now--Clemson, Auburn, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin top 4 come Tuesday, I think. I think Oklahoma is vulnerable, though, even if they win out (if Wisconsin also wins out). Mama shouldn't jump them to get in, but I could see it happening. We might be looking at the first shitstorm of the CFP era. Someone worthy will be left out. If Wisconsin or Oklahoma lose next week then that will take care of the final four teams.
 
mthawkeyes said:
So the best teams that Alabama has beaten are 8-3 LSU, 8-4 Miss St., and 7-4 Texas A&M. Take away the name brand, and I don't see it.
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You're right of course, but don't you know that the SEC always gets the benefit of the doubt? In this case there are just too many stellar teams beating each other up I'm sure
 
Eternal Return said:
Because Ohio State did the same thing last year and got in with one loss. Alabama and either Georgia or Auburn will get into the CFP, but only if Wisconsin loses to Ohio State or Oklahoma loses in B12 championship game.
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That OSU team had wins over Number 6 Michigan, Number 7 Oklahoma, and Number 8 Wisconsin from the final Playoff Rankings last year with 2 of the 3 wins on the road. Alabama won't have a single win against anyone in the final top 15 this year! That's not even close to the "same thing."
 
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ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK said:
If Clem, Okla, & Wis win out, bye bye Bama
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I think you are absolutely right. Bama's chances hinge on Wisconsin losing. And, to be honest, I think Wisconsin will lose. Should Wisconsin win, however, they deserve the #1 seed IMHO and the CFP would set up 1. Wisconsin 2. Clemson 3. Oklahoma 4. Auburn/Georgia winner

Sooooooo...assuming Clemson and Oklahoma win out, I see Georgia, Auburn, and Wisconsin controlling their destiny. If Wisconsin does in fact beat Ohio State (and I don't think they will), then they are in. If they lose, Bama gets the 4th spot. Georgia and Auburn are basically competing for the 3rd spot.

I'm going to guess it plays out 1. Clemson 2. Oklahoma 3. Georgia (yes, the Dogs get revenge against Auburn) 4. Bama (yes, OSU beats Wisky)
 
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mthawkeyes said:
So the best teams that Alabama has beaten are 8-3 LSU, 8-4 Miss St., and 7-4 Texas A&M. Take away the name brand, and I don't see it.
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A&M and Lsu are some quality wins! Hell they almost beat ucla and troy! :D

Wiscy is only undefeated because their schedule. If they had to play teams like syracuse, pitt and isu....there is no way they are 12-0 ;) lol

Good ole college football....
 
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Franisdaman said:
Personally, I think the Committee will think a 1 loss Bama deserves to be in vs a 1 loss Oklahoma

I think the Big 12 and Pac 12 could easily be left out
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Normally, I would agree with you, but after the Ohio State debacle last CFP, I don't see the committee leaving out OU (assuming they win out).
 
H4wkfan4life said:
A&M and Lsu are some quality wins! Hell they almost beat ucla and troy! :D

Wiscy is only undefeated because their schedule. If they had to play teams like syracuse, pitt and isu....there is no way they are 12-0 ;) lol

Good ole college football....
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Bad thing for Bama is they scheduled FSU for the opener. Who could have predicted FSU's starting QB would be lost for the season and FSU would go on to be mediocre?
 
Franisdaman said:
Its gonna be a helluva lot of fun watching this all play out

crazy that in 8 days we find out the final 4
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It is pretty wild. And I'm sure those wanting an 8-team playoff will get a little more vocal. There is a real chance this year for a two-loss team (Auburn) to compete for a national title. Crazy.

AND...if Ohio State beats Wisconsin and OU and/or Clemson stub their toe, then a case will be made for them to make it (even though I don't think they should get in no matter what).
 
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Franisdaman said:
so many "what ifs" remain.

what if OSU beats Wisky?

What if Georgia beats Auburn?

Is the winner of Clemson/Miami for sure in?
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I know. Makes next week worth watching.

I will say Ohio State should not be in no matter what. I have the Georgia/Auburn winner in regardless. If Clemson wins, they are in. Miami? Hmmm...great question. Lol. I think Pitt is too bad of a loss. I would take a one-loss Wisconsin team over them.
 
Franisdaman said:
Personally, I think the Committee will think a 1 loss Bama deserves to be in vs a 1 loss Oklahoma
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There would simply be no objective way possible for the Committee to defend that. Their schedules are not even close to comparable.

As far as the original poll goes, it is the Committee's duty to put the 4 best teams in the CFP. It was made clear from the beginning that there would be no restrictions as far as need for conference championship or limiting the field to only 1 team per conference. There are a lot of important football games left to be played, but as much as I hate it, it is certainly possible that, when all the dust settles, the Committee will consider 'Bama a worthy candidate. IMO, though, I see no way that 'Bama gets in over the SEC Champ, 13-0 Wisky, 12-1 Clemson or 12-1 Okla (I am only very concerned that at least one of those 3 will lose next weekend).
 
ChiDoc said:
That OSU team had wins over Number 6 Michigan, Number 7 Oklahoma, and Number 8 Wisconsin from the final Playoff Rankings last year with 2 of the 3 wins on the road. Alabama won't have a single win against anyone in the final top 15 this year! That's not even close to the "same thing."
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I'm not arguing. I wouldn't do it. But I think the committee couldl. Who would they put in instead? If Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses then 1-loss Alabama probably trumps any other team. Who else squeezes past them? If Wisconsin and Oklahoma wins it will probably (but not necessarily) be:

SEC champ
ACC champ
Oklahoma
Wisconsin

I don't think Bama can get in in that scenario.

But if Okie or Wisconsin lose, then Alabama is probably the next team in. Who else would it be? Two-loss Ohio State, two-loss USC, two-loss Notre Dame? I can't see that happening. Oklahoma is the team in the most danger even if they win out. They shouldn't be because they'd have a conference championship and better quality wins than Bama, but I have no idea with the way the CFP committee makes decisions.

EDIT: 1-loss UW gets trumped by Alabama because Wisky doesn't have any more quality wins than Bama and falls farther. Loser of Miami-Clemson will have at least two losses so the loser doesn't get in.
 
Clemson/Miami Winner
Georgia/Auburn Winner
Wisconsin if they win
Then it’s Alabama or Oklahoma (if they win Big 12). I’d go with Oklahoma. If Wisconsin loses then both get in (if Oklahoma wins).

If Oklahoma and Wisconsin lose then i wouldn’t be surprised to see ND get in if they beat Stanford. Why? Because they’re ND.
 
Eternal Return said:
I'm not arguing. I wouldn't do it. But I think the committee couldl. Who would they put in instead? If Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses then 1-loss Alabama probably trumps any other team. Who else squeezes past them? If Wisconsin and Oklahoma wins it will probably (but not necessarily) be:

SEC champ
ACC champ
Oklahoma
Wisconsin

I don't think Bama can get in in that scenario.

But if Okie or Wisconsin lose, then Alabama is probably the next team in. Who else would it be? Two-loss Ohio State, two-loss USC, two-loss Notre Dame? I can't see that happening. Oklahoma is the team in the most danger even if they win out. They shouldn't be because they'd have a conference championship and better quality wins than Bama, but I have no idea with the way the CFP committee makes decisions.

EDIT: 1-loss UW gets trumped by Alabama because Wisky doesn't have any more quality wins than Bama and falls farther. Loser of Miami-Clemson will have at least two losses so the loser doesn't get in.
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If Georgia beats Auburn then Alabama is out and OSU/USC/ND will be picked ahead I would guess. Alabama hasn't beaten anybody and will have zero top 15 wins, and only 4 true road games all season. Michigan State is ranked higher than anyone they've beaten for crying out loud. Nobody forced them to schedule Mercer in late November, and zero true road OOC games in the last umpteen years, tough luck Bama fans.

My Guess:
1. Oklahoma
2. Georgia
3. Clemson/Miami Winner
4. Ohio State/ Wisconsin winner
 
Franisdaman said:
Personally, I think the Committee will think a 1 loss Bama deserves to be in vs a 1 loss Oklahoma

I think the Big 12 and Pac 12 could easily be left out
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That's what I'm wondering about. It shouldn't happen, but this committee is kind of unpredictable. There would be a hell of an outcry if they skipped Okie for Bama in that scenario, though. I think the committee will be rooting against Oklahoma or Wisconsin, but probably want at least one of them to win. If both lose then it's true craziness.
 
UNIowaHawk said:
Clemson/Miami Winner
Georgia/Auburn Winner
Wisconsin if they win
Then it’s Alabama or Oklahoma (if they win Big 12). I’d go with Oklahoma. If Wisconsin loses then both get in (if Oklahoma wins).

If Oklahoma and Wisconsin lose then i wouldn’t be surprised to see ND get in if they beat Stanford. Why? Because they’re ND.
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LMFAO. Oklahoma has zero chance of not being a lock over Alabama if they beat TCU. They would have 3 wins better than Alabamas best win and a conference championship. Zero chance.
 
ChiDoc said:
If Georgia beats Auburn then Alabama is out and OSU/USC/ND will be picked ahead I would guess. Alabama hasn't beaten anybody and will have zero top 15 wins, and only 4 true road games all season. Michigan State is ranked higher than anyone they've beaten for crying out loud. Nobody forced them to schedule Mercer in late November, and zero true road OOC games in the last umpteen years, tough luck Bama fans.

My Guess:
1. Oklahoma
2. Georgia
3. Clemson/Miami Winner
4. Ohio State/ Wisconsin winner
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Why would the committee take a two-loss team over Bama when Bama's only loss is to Auburn on the road? No way two-loss Ohio State gets in over 1-loss Bama. Two-loss Notre Dame, maybe, but not OSU. ND's losses were to Georgia and Miami, Ohio State lost to Oklahoma and 7-5 IOWA. No, that loss to Iowa kills Ohio State even against some other two-loss teams. One-loss Bama will be chosen over any two-loss team.
 
Eternal Return said:
Why would the committee take a two-loss team over Bama when Bama's only loss is to Auburn on the road? No way two-loss Ohio State gets in over 1-loss Bama. Two-loss Notre Dame, maybe, but not OSU. ND's losses were to Georgia and Miami, Ohio State lost to Oklahoma and 7-5 IOWA. No, that loss to Iowa kills Ohio State even against some other two-loss teams. One-loss Bama will be chosen over any two-loss team.
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Only one team has ever gotten in that didn't win their conference and they had THREE top 8 wins, Alabama doesn't even have a top 15 win. No conference has EVER gotten in two teams. Michigan Freaking State is ranked higher than ANYONE Alabama has beaten this year. Why do you think that's a playoff resume?

The committee specifically mentions conference championships as a key criteria for selection. Not to mention the B1G, Big 12, Pac 12 all played an extra league game while Bama was playing Mercer last week. Your statement that Alabama will go over any two loss team couldn't be more wrong. They haven't beaten ANYBODY.

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ChiDoc said:
If Georgia beats Auburn then Alabama is out and OSU/USC/ND will be picked ahead I would guess. Alabama hasn't beaten anybody and will have zero top 15 wins, and only 4 true road games all season. Michigan State is ranked higher than anyone they've beaten for crying out loud. Nobody forced them to schedule Mercer in late November, and zero true road OOC games in the last umpteen years, tough luck Bama fans.

My Guess:
1. Oklahoma
2. Georgia
3. Clemson/Miami Winner
4. Ohio State/ Wisconsin winner
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I see no scenario that puts Ohio St in the CFP, barring utter chaos (OSU winning by 40+ and Okla losing by 40+, e.g.). With 2 losses, including one blowout, added to the CFP blowout last year, they will not get the benefit of the doubt they got in '14 and '16.
 
MeetTheFerentz said:
I see no scenario that puts Ohio St in the CFP, barring utter chaos (OSU winning by 40+ and Okla losing by 40+, e.g.). With 2 losses, including one blowout, added to the CFP blowout last year, they will not get the benefit of the doubt they got in '14 and '16.
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Who's your fourth team then besides ACC Champ, SEC Champ, Oklahoma and Ohio St if the Buckeyes beat Wisconsin as they will be heavily favored to do?
 
ChiDoc said:
LMFAO. Oklahoma has zero chance of not being a lock over Alabama if they beat TCU. They would have 3 wins better than Alabamas best win and a conference championship. Zero chance.
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Dude Oklahoma lost at home to Iowa St, that's reason alone to take Bama.
 
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Auburn is the 1st team to win 2 games against the No. 1 team in College Football Playoff rankings in the same season.
 
No. It's actually set up pretty nice for the committee.

ACC winner in
SEC winner in
Big 10 winner in

OK wins they are in.

Now if TCU wins it opens a possible spot for Bama.
 
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