hell, eSECpn has been throwing Iowa under the bus all week when explaining why Bama should be in vs OSU
Is Alabama one of the 4 best teams where they make the Final 4 CFP? Does the B1G get left out?
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hell, eSECpn has been throwing Iowa under the bus all week when explaining why Bama should be in vs OSU
Yeah, and they have still put up 430 yards of offense. We managed what, 69 yards?
Ya, if osu gets in, they are officially a cockroach and cannot be eliminated from the playoffs lol (ie last year not a conf champ; this year with 2 blowout losses and leapfrogging no 5 team from no 8)
in all fairness, there has never been a 2 loss team in the playoff
how would you have liked to have been PSU last year! you beat OSU, you win the B1G Championship game, and OSU gets in??? WTH???
Three are in:
ACC Champs, #1 Clemson, 12-1
SEC Champs, #6 Georgia, 12-1
Big 12 Champs, #3 Oklahoma, 12-1
3 Contenders for the final slot:
#4 Wisconsin, 12-0
#5 Alabama, 11-1
#8 Ohio State, 10-2
Out of Contention:
#2 Auburn, 10-3 (lost in SEC Championship game)
#7 Miami, 10-2 (lost in ACC Championship game)
ACC Champs, #1 Clemson, 12-1
SEC Champs, #6 Georgia, 12-1
Big 12 Champs, #3 Oklahoma, 12-1
3 Contenders for the final slot:
#4 Wisconsin, 12-0
#5 Alabama, 11-1
#8 Ohio State, 10-2
Out of Contention:
#2 Auburn, 10-3 (lost in SEC Championship game)
#7 Miami, 10-2 (lost in ACC Championship game)
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If Ohio State wins this, I'm wondering if the margin of victory is going to be enough to jump them 4 positions. The amount of lobbying the coaches and conference commissioners will be doing over the next 10 or so hours.
If O$u wins, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Miami all will have lost. Ohio State only has to jump Alabama, who isn't a conference champion. Margin of victory probably won't matter.
One would think the committee would consider they are playing a 12-0 team though.
Three are in:
ACC Champs, #1 Clemson, 12-1
SEC Champs, #6 Georgia, 12-1
Big 12 Champs, #3 Oklahoma, 12-1
2 Contenders for the final slot:
#5 Alabama, 11-1 (did not win their division, let alone their conference championship)
B1G Champs, #8 Ohio State, 11-2
Out of Contention:
#2 Auburn, 10-3 (lost in SEC Championship game)
#4 Wisconsin, 12-1 (lost in B1G Championship game)
#7 Miami, 10-2 (lost in ACC Championship game)
ACC Champs, #1 Clemson, 12-1
SEC Champs, #6 Georgia, 12-1
Big 12 Champs, #3 Oklahoma, 12-1
2 Contenders for the final slot:
#5 Alabama, 11-1 (did not win their division, let alone their conference championship)
B1G Champs, #8 Ohio State, 11-2
Out of Contention:
#2 Auburn, 10-3 (lost in SEC Championship game)
#4 Wisconsin, 12-1 (lost in B1G Championship game)
#7 Miami, 10-2 (lost in ACC Championship game)
Idk. Bama has 1 loss, Ohio State has 2. Ohio State has 2 wins over the top 4. Flip a coin. Or better yet, expand the playoffs and decide it on the field!! What a concept!
I think OSU gets in based on head to head strength of schedule comparisons and when looking at the number of wins over ranked teams.
Strength of Schedule (Advantage OSU):
OSU 42
Bama 54
Wins over Ranked Teams (Advantage OSU):
3 for OSU: #4 Wisconsin, #9 Penn St, #16 Mich St
2 for Bama: #17 LSU, #23 Miss St
Strength of Schedule (Advantage OSU):
OSU 42
Bama 54
Wins over Ranked Teams (Advantage OSU):
3 for OSU: #4 Wisconsin, #9 Penn St, #16 Mich St
2 for Bama: #17 LSU, #23 Miss St
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I'd have to put it at 60 to 40 in favor of Alabama over Ohio State for the final spot. Alabama has fewer losses and was ranked higher coming into the week. But, Ohio State played in a conference championship game and won it.....plus, not sure if the committee wants to set the precedence of having half of the playoff spots taken up by 1 conference.
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I don’t know how Ohio State doesn’t jump a team that didn’t play. The 8 team playoff happened today, and the winners should move on.
Technically it was decided on the field today, in an eight team playoff.
That’s why expansion makes no sense
No it wasn’t because the argument is over Ohio State/Bama. That will be decided in a board room, not the field.
Excellent point. 7 of the top 8 ranked teams played today. Should idle Alabama (who did not win their division, let alone their conference) be awarded with a playoff berth?
The debate: Ohio State or Alabama
There's never been a loss by a playoff team greater than 14 pts. OSU lost to Iowa by 31, of course.
OSU won a conference title. Bama didn't win their division.
Herbstreit said on paper OSU has a better resume but watching OSU and watching Bama, which is the better team? He said that the committee is supposed to give us the best 4 teams. He said most deserving is OSU. If you go by who is better its Alabama. He realizes that means 2 SEC teams and Jim Delany would not be happy.
LINK: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21647711
There's never been a loss by a playoff team greater than 14 pts. OSU lost to Iowa by 31, of course.
OSU won a conference title. Bama didn't win their division.
Herbstreit said on paper OSU has a better resume but watching OSU and watching Bama, which is the better team? He said that the committee is supposed to give us the best 4 teams. He said most deserving is OSU. If you go by who is better its Alabama. He realizes that means 2 SEC teams and Jim Delany would not be happy.
LINK: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21647711
If it were up to ESPN writers, it would be land slide. 24 of 35 would pick Bama over OSU.
Votes:
24 Alabama
11 Ohio State
LINK: http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...17/college-football-playoff-espn-expert-picks
Votes:
24 Alabama
11 Ohio State
LINK: http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...17/college-football-playoff-espn-expert-picks
I'd pick Alabama too. OSU last year got in over a Penn St team that not only won the head to head but also won the conference. And we were told OSU made it in last year because they only had 1 loss and the eye test said they were better. Sounds like Bama this year.
ESPN also has a vested interest in Alabama and the SEC.
It’s like asking MSNBC if they’d rather have an R or D to fill a position.
I’d pick OSU. They have two losses— one a “better” loss than Alabama’s and one a “worse” loss. However, they have 3 wins that are “better” than any win Alabama has had, played an extra game, and won their conference. Alabama didn’t even play the best team in their conference— if they had they quite possibly would have two losses too.
I like Herbstreit; heck, he is an OSU alum.
As noted above, this is what he said last night:
He said that the committee is supposed to give us the best 4 teams. He said most deserving is OSU. If you go by who is better its Alabama. He realizes that means 2 SEC teams and Jim Delany would not be happy.
And Saban last night on eSECpn's Scott Van Pelt Show said his team did not lose to any team by 31 pts.
So, yes, the 31 pt loss to Iowa was held big time against OSU.
I wonder one more thing: did the Committee think that Clemson/Bama would be a better game than Clemson/OSU?
TONS of politics.
Somehow OSU got in in 2014 and 2016.
This year Bama and the SEC held all the power, it seems.
Wasn't the SEC supposed to be down this year? And they get 50% of the playoff participants? And you leave the West coast (PAC 12) and upper half of the country(Big 10) out?
Heather Dinich, ESPN Senior Writer
Kirk Herbstreit says the CFP committee isn't interested in appeasing people's agendas and it picked the best team (Bama over OSU)
Herbstreit said that the 'Committee made a statement' with the Bama selection.
Link to the discussion: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21653041
Herbstreit said that the 'Committee made a statement' with the Bama selection.
Link to the discussion: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21653041
Maybe I'm in the minority but I think they got it right. Everyone is saying Alabama defense is not typical Alabama defense, but I can say that about Ohio St entire team. They lost their marquee out of conference game, had to pull off a comeback of all comebacks at home against Penn St, and got throttled by the Hawkeyes. Even the BIG10 game they appeared they should have rolled Wisconsin but missed open receivers and essentially couldn't execute and that's why the game was as close as it was. From my eyes watching Alabama and OSU, I'd say Alabama is the better team. But I'm also happy because it's going to force change, just like the Alabama-LSU championship did and the Nebraska-Michigan split championship did before that. The Big Ten when it comes to financial and power is on the same playing field with SEC and is going to force change. Considering the PAC12 was also left out means the BIG10 will have an ally to force this change. Get ready for a 6 team playoff where each power conference plus 1 gets in and #1 and #2 get bye weeks
Sabin: "I believed and trusted in the integrity of the committee that they would do their very best to put the best teams in."
LINK: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21653651
LINK: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21653651
Chad LeistikowVerified account@ChadLeistikow 2h2 hours agoOhio State's biggest mistake was scheduling Oklahoma instead of Mercer. #CFBPlayoff
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