It’s over for Biden
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Who do you and @Funky Bunch think should replace Biden and what are the odds that person would defeat Trump?
Newsome. Just so he can ask Trump if his son likes the taste of his cock.
I'll take that chance compared to where we are now
It isn’t necessarily going to be Newsom. Whitmer has won twice in one of the key swing states. There are several other successful governors who will be considered. Let’s see who stands out and let the delegates decide at the convention.
Biden can’t even complete a sentence. He is going up against the most dangerous person in the history of our country who unfortunately is very charismatic and a high level showman.
It is an utter and complete mismatch. Biden will get destroyed as will so many down ballot candidates around the country.
Project 2025 will be implemented without opposition if Biden is our nominee.
That's a big guess you're predicting.
Biden had one bad debate. The public has a short memory. Hopefully he rebounds.
It isn’t just one bad debate. He has been kept in hiding for a long time because he is no longer capable mentally. The debate was confirmation of what many feared and the right wingers and their media have been alleging.
This is completely different than Obama having a bad debate because he was rusty. He was still mentally able and was much more effective in subsequent debates.
Biden isn’t going to improve on Thursday night’s debacle if they attempt to send him back out on to the debate stage in September. He is failing mentally and combined with a stutter, putting him in that situation is elder abuse.
We complain that republicans have no standards for their candidate. We are doing the same if we pretend that Biden has the mental fitness to be our nominee. We are admitting that we also have no standards.
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That exchange was so embarrassing for the country.
I agree he won't improve. He will only get worse. His advisors and other Dems will run things. But that's exactly what will happen with Trump. He won't be the one crafting policy. That will be done by 2025. It is what it is at this point. No matter who we have in charge, the direction of the country will either be by the same people who got us the infrastructure deal, or the same people who gave us abortion bans.
Party leadership does not have their head in the sand. It is deliberate
The debate was an election clincher for Trump. Even though Trump managed to get in at least 30+ lies, the debate was all about Biden and his unbelievably bad performance. He not only looked bad physically, but rhetorically he was even a greater disaster. He mumbled and spoke almost incoherently unable to finish simple declarative sentences while consistently losing his train of thought. For the good of the country, it's time for Biden to pull out of the race. And it's time for Jill Biden to face reality and wholeheartedly convince him to do so.
Why stay the course? (Abridged version)
1. It’s a long long way to Election Day, people have short memories, and there’s at least one intervening event (sentencing) the other side has to get through.
2. Most of what I’ve seen has suggested that the debate will actually impact few votes. And who even knows yet what that looks like in the battlegrounds, which are the only places that matter.
3. There is downside risk of positioning as backroom politics. Now that’s not going to turn d’s to trump but it might well cause some to simply stay home.
1. It’s a long long way to Election Day, people have short memories, and there’s at least one intervening event (sentencing) the other side has to get through.
2. Most of what I’ve seen has suggested that the debate will actually impact few votes. And who even knows yet what that looks like in the battlegrounds, which are the only places that matter.
3. There is downside risk of positioning as backroom politics. Now that’s not going to turn d’s to trump but it might well cause some to simply stay home.
I would argue nobody would care if Biden gets replaced (except for family and some current WH/campaign staff). Are there actual Biden fans? I know nobody who ever really wanted the guy other than to try to stop Trump. He’s not Obama or JFK, especially now.
Ehh... I think Joe would be quickly forgotten.
My guess is that there's a lot going on behind the scenes and he will drop out in the next 2 weeks.
Gretchen Whitmer thinks she could beat Donald Trump, says former adviser
Michigan governor has been suggested as a possible candidate who could replace Joe Biden should he not stand for president
www.telegraph.co.uk
I don’t doubt that part but I do think the possibility of a modest turnout drop has to be considered very very carefully.
I hope so. I follow some local democrats on FB. I know them from city campaigns or through the neighborhood association. At the moment, it is split much like it is on HORT. The ones who want a change are very vocal.
It ends with Trump saying something like "let's not be children"...... Donald Trump........
Look at his face. He isn’t well. His wife truly is a selfish a-hole for subjecting him to all of this
Especially after putting it up against the Nixon/JFK debate someone else posted.
I always admired Jill Biden but her insistence that Joe remain in the race is simply baffling. More than anyone she has seen firsthand how he has deteriorated over the past few years. Like everyone else, she had to see Thursday night just how incapable he was and how embarrassing and humiliating it was for him.
He is so stream of consciousness stupid. Wow
Newsome is a very slick politician, for better or worse. He would embarrass Trump at a debate & campaigning. Imo the dems are literally running the only guy Trump will beat.
All depends on the polls. So far three have been done post debate. One shows Trump leading. But two show Biden leading. No way he leaves if that sticks.
It didn't so let's focus and wipe the MAGA joke off the electoral map.
Are you kidding? A not small number of people who were solid Biden voters want him replaced. Independents would have voted for him in sufficient numbers prior to Thursday. Now most of them won’t vote or will vote third party. Young people were already not excited about Biden. You can count on many of them staying home if a change isn’t made.
Why do I have a sense that this was orchestrated according to a plan hatched many months back.
Yell and scream that Joe is competent, all in unison, and being as adamant as possible. Take visible offense whenever anyone calls for him to step down.
Wait until the last possible moment and then reverse course, with everyone suddenly calling for a replacement candidate in a cacophony of orchestrated objection. ... This replacement candidate will not have been subject to any party-wide vote, or any vetting of any sort ... but everyone will agree that he/she is the best available candidate, and the party will be steamrolled into supporting the replacement candidate. This person will be from the Van Jones/Susan Rice/Barak Obama wing of the party.
This flashy (made to be flashy) new and greater candidate will be promoted far and wide (even with an Obama-like speech in the Berlin Tiergarten). This campaign will be notable for its shallowness and lack of focus on any issues. It will be a hero worship sort of thing and in the end, no one will know anything about this new person.
The newness of the new and better savior of Democracy will sweep him/her into office and another election will have been converted into a steal.
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Our Democracy (Republic) is about to be tested.
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I'm guessing this doesn't turn out to be reality.
Damn, bro, even if this turns out true, it's insane to claim this is a steal.
