Looks like they're getting treated like 2nd graders on a field trip.
Jbo not impressed with NCAA swag bag, back at it on Twitter...
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So you do know that they had the option not to play. Everyone who is in the situation you describe made a conscious decision to be there. If they chose not to, they still retaned their scholarship and other perks. No questions asked.
I just can't believe how bad they have it. Imagine being confined by yourself to a hotel room with access to social media etc so you re not truly alone and getting fed as often as you like. Tough life. I am always amazed at how affected the HAVES can be when they experience even the slightest bit of distress.
These players live a life of privilege. There are millions of Americans who have lost everything in this pandemic. Their homes, members of their family, their jobs etc.
But hey keep on advocting for the MOST amongst us. After all the $60 or $70k (minimum) in numerous benefits they receive every year just ain't enough.
Against JBo talking about refs and other teams.
Love when he talks about the NCAA.
Love when he talks about the NCAA.
Jordan, thanks for being a Hawk and congrats on all of your accomplishments in Iowa City. With that said, cancel twitter and shut up.
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Oh, and guess which McCaffery boy is better at wiffle ball?
And it looks like they are outside & not locked up!!!!
And it looks like they are outside & not locked up!!!!
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Its got to be horrible to spend 2-3 weeks at a Marriott in Indianapolis that is 200+ dollars a night.
$250 per night x 21 days = $5250.00 per person
15 players + 10 staff members = $131k for the tournament just in hotel costs
free meals, free transportation etc.
The players behind this say they are fighting for the "incoming players" but lets be honest, once they get some ruling in their favor, they will then ask for retributions from the past xx amount of years.
The "real world" starts for Bohannon in a couple weeks and the podcast isn't gonna pay his bills. But I am sure mom and dad will cover him for a while with all the money they saved on college tuition.
$250 per night x 21 days = $5250.00 per person
15 players + 10 staff members = $131k for the tournament just in hotel costs
free meals, free transportation etc.
The players behind this say they are fighting for the "incoming players" but lets be honest, once they get some ruling in their favor, they will then ask for retributions from the past xx amount of years.
The "real world" starts for Bohannon in a couple weeks and the podcast isn't gonna pay his bills. But I am sure mom and dad will cover him for a while with all the money they saved on college tuition.
You whine more than them.
what this guy said! If playing for the NCAA is such oppression, quit. Give back your free education while your at it Jordan, there are lots of kids out there paying their way through college who would love to have it as bad as you do buddy
If youre worth $250K/yr and your employer (the only employer mind you) offers you $60K or $70K are you not going to throw a fit?
Its funny how people without said marketable skills want those w/ those skills to just be happy with what they have.
And there a lot of college kids making money with their skills & talents - why should athletes be treated any differently?
Thats not the real world, the real world is you ask your employer for a raise, find a new employer, or employ yourself. Wouldnt it be great if the athletes had the same options?
There are bunch in this thread who have a corn cob up their butts. Ease up on the criticism. Jbo is just joking around.
As I said in my original statement, he can quit, he can get a "real" job, so yes he has his options.
Even inmates get recreational time in the "yard".
Thats not their skillset - if you have the talent, proclivity, and skills to be a doctor, but they dont pay you a doctor salary, is it fair to say just go get a less lucrative job? Of course not, stop being so obtuse.
yeah he might be joking this time but he has bitched about the ncaa plenty of times now.
they do. if they think they are so great and should be getting paid go play overseas somewhere. Then they can have all the luxury they want and won’t have anyone keeping them down.
but I’m sure they will complain about that as well because it’s not fair they have to move away.
I think you're forgetting just how many additional privileges and benefits college athletes receive:
-Private tutors not accessible by the general student populace
-Access to state-of-the-art athletic facilities and staff
-Access to athletic training tables and high-level medical care on the school's dime
-Better nutrition staff and food than regular students
-A stipend for spending money
On top of
-A college education, paid for
-Free room, board, books, food, and travel expenses
These athletes work hard, sure, and I agree they should have control over their own likeness, but let's not act like the NCAA is fleecing them here. The majority of players in these movements vastly overestimate their own marketability.
There are some conflicting things here. Yes, the players should be able to make money off their likeness. The issue is the entire business model for college sports is based on 2 sports (men's basketball and football) paying the freight for everything else. Yes, the NCAA makes a crap-ton of money on the NCAA tournament. They also return the majority of that money back to the schools. It's what allows smaller schools especially to have athletic programs and fund them. On the football side, the conferences get paid directly, not the NCAA. But ticket and TV revenue there pay for everything else. So if we go down the route of giving every football and basketball player $100K, it means some non-revenue sports are getting dropped. Immediately.
I get what the players are saying here. The coaches and administrators (even the assistants or faceless bureaucrats in the athletic department) are making well over $100k annually. The players do get school free, but it's not unreasonable that they think that isn't a great bargain. The players need to be sure not to overplay their hand here though, as many of the public they are trying to get on their side have to take out huge loans or have their parents pay out huge sums of money, or both, to go to college. They are not being opressed or forced into anything. They can always choose not to play.
I just can't believe the NCAA couldn't figure out name and image likeness before now. This should have been done years ago. Yes, it will be abused as Alabama or name the school will pay a big-time player who comes to their program $250k or some huge number for a jersey or a photo. And on and on. Yes, it might seem "unfair" to other schools who don't have boosters willing to do the same, but in the end so what? The free market will likely sort this out better than arcane regulations that can't be enforced by the NCAA can.
18-22 year olds, with full frontal lobe closure being around age 26, overplaying their hand? You don't say???
Dont convolute "getting paid" i.e. a salary with compensation for NIL use. They are 2 separate, but valid issues.
youre vastly underestimating the revenue generation many if these athletes are capable of. (hint, the money isnt in tv commericals, radio spots, jersey sales, etc.)
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Most medical students have thousands of dollars in student loans to pay for when they start their careers. How much student debt does Bohannon have? Also, comparing a medical student and the academic demands of that to a basketball player majoring in "sports management" is a bit of a stretch isnt it?
He could have left after his freshmen year and declared for the draft....oops. nevermind.
Again, the real world is coming and some players are struggling with that reality.
He is and he isn’t, to be fair. The discussion needs to happen one day with both sides listening. Think Curt Flood
Its pretty funny they are demanding that the supreme court rule in favor of them. Like the supreme court gives a shit and is going to give in to their demand 😂
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I agree they should have control over their own likeness. But at the same time, they should NOT be able to associate their likeness with the school whatsoever. So if Bohannon wants to do a commercial for whatever, he cant wear Iowa gear, no text on the screen can say "Basketball player from the University of Iowa' and he cant mention the school. Only THEN is he being paid for HIS likeness and not piggy backing off the school. OH and he gets no more free ride for tuition!!
What are you talking about? No one said anything about med students. Dont like analogy? Fine, a welder who is told hes only getting paid half his value, if they dont like it, go be something else that pays less.
If you're talking social media, I've just got to laugh. Everyone and their brother has a great plan for being the next big YouTuber and it never works.
Another question:
What happens when something comes down to, say, the star of the WBB team versus a role player on the football team? Guess who's winning that competition 9/10?
Even if the current rules aren't perfect, they provide infinite amount more equity than what many of these players want, and they know that. They're just trying to get their piece of the pie while they're still in school.
Noo, he would leave that job and go somewhere he thinks he would be paid what he deserves. College players could choose to go overseas and try to make $ playing. The ncaa really has all the leverage here because the options besides college ball are pretty limited.
Here’s an idea, when athletes sign with their college they have the option to 1) get your scholarship with school, housing, meals and everything else involved paid for or 2)opt out of that and keep your name and likeness to profit off of but in turn have to foot the tuition, housing, meal bill yourself. Would be interesting to see what most chose, my guess the scholarship!
