She's a great player, no doubt. Let me know when she has a 40-point triple-double in a final eight-game.
JuJu Watkins (in 38 games) is 4th fastest to 1,000 points. Took Caitlin 40 games
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For what it’s worth UCONN has had those kind of players for a decade and how long has it been since they won a national championship?
And to be fair, the girl from Michigan may not be starting, but she’s averaging the second or third most minutes… And depending on how good you think West Virginia is that was a pretty tough game. I just don’t see any dominating teams out there.
like the New Year’s past
Meh…. I’m not sure juju is as good a defender as some try to make out. Sure she’s 6-2 but she does not have great lateral quickness.
Second of all, it hit me like a ton of lead during the WNBA season last year… First, we all know Caitlin never put a great deal of effort into defense, but she’s honestly a better off ball defender than she gets credit for. Second as she begin to have to focus on that, she got even better but third and most importantly look at how they deployed her at Iowa and for the fever.
They play her in the lane to help with rebounding ( if people remember the fever were struggling rebounding early in the season ) and jumpstart the break. Pretty damn hard to be a good perimeter defender when you’re playing in the lane more often than not 🤷♂️
If Betts stays healthy all year, UCLA is going to put the hurt on a lot of teams.
I think Iowa can take USC.Sunday Feb 2 Iowa hosts USC.
Sunday Feb 23 Iowa hosts UCLA.
Gonna be fun (I hope)
I think UCLA is going to be pain.
It will be interesting to see the # of games played & career ppg after this season.
Current Numbers:
Games....Career...........Career
Played.......PPG.............Points
.......42................26.76......................1,124..........JuJu Watkins
.....139...............28.42...................3,951..........Caitlin Clark
Current Numbers:
Games....Career...........Career
Played.......PPG.............Points
.......42................26.76......................1,124..........JuJu Watkins
.....139...............28.42...................3,951..........Caitlin Clark
A remarkable thing about Caitlin was also her health ... how often do players have to miss time due to injury/illness?
This is THE X factor in this debate. Playing 140 games and 4 years of practice and never missing a couple of games.
And then she should transfer to Iowa so we can win a got dam national f***ing championship!!!
Actually with Heiden and Hays the next 4 years I think we'll be fine. If we went hunting in the portal we'd have bigger needs at the 3/4 spot...
You got anymore of them Caitlin Clarks by chance?.........
There may never be another player in my lifetime that is her equal. From everything I've read about Addie Deal she is the REAL DEAL though. Super talented, driven, and high basketball IQ. Plays for one of the top High school teams in California, and a national power. They play a great schedule, so there is no doubt she'll come in ready to play game one next season as either the point guard/off guard.
I wonder if Press pressed Pete to do all the scoring. If he didn't he certainly allowed for Pete to be a chucker.
At 38 shots a game you would think Pete was being either asked to or allowed to take a lot of bad shots. So I guess I'm saying maybe there is some room for discussing the number of games played right along side number of attempts made.
Just a thought.
Well we do know he played on a bad LSU team, so maybe he just didn't have much around him. Also playing for his Dad who never made it big in the pro's, his Dad probably wanted him to showcase his talents
USC is messing with lady luck trying to get JuJu some stats. She hurt her ankle yesterday halfway through the 4th quarter against a nobody school while the Trojans were up by 54 points. She played 6 more minutes (32 minutes total) than anybody on either team, and the only reason it wasn't more minutes is because she took herself out when she turned her ankle.
Hard to understand how a team is blowing the other team out by 50 points, but the coach still keeps the star player in.
Just wants to build her stats! I’m sure Clark did that once in awhile but never AR.😇
Lisa allowed Caitlin to stay in games longer than she probably should have ... part of that was to enable Caitlin to chase history.
Case in point:
11/12 vs UNI ... Iowa wins by 41 and Caitlin was in for 31 minutes
1/16 vs Wisc ... Iowa wins by 46 and Caitlin was in for 33 minutes
... the list goes on
I imagine that sometimes a coach does that to help keep their star happy ... and continue to drum up excitement for the program in the process. After all, folks were paying good money to see the Hawks play ... and they were mostly there to be watching Caitlin make history.
She ended up with 26 pts.
So far this year (11 games) JuJu, in her sophomore year, is averaging 24.7 ppg and 3.7 assists/game.
Caitlin averaged 27.0 ppg in 32 games her sophomore year.
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Lisa also had the responsibility of playing CC additional minutes because 15k showed up to watch her play.
USC isn't facing that issue.
USC isn't facing that issue.
Caitlin did play a lot of minutes...more per game on average than JuJu I think. Lisa was taking a risk playing her those minutes in easy wins. I get why JuJu is playing a lot of minutes, but few players are able to do what CC did with staying healthy. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
I expect JuJu to still have more points than CC after her sophomore season. But it will be close. And then all she has to do is average 30 points a game both her Junior and Senior seasons while also playing every game and going to the championship round both seasons.
If JuJu were to get 39 games in this season, and that is a big if, while averaging 25 ppg, I think she would have around 230-240 point lead after her sophomore season. That would be playing 11 more games than CC through their sophomore seasons. Then if USC went to championship games of the BIG and NCAA tournaments her junior and senior seasons, I think JuJu would only need to average a a little over 26 ppg those two seasons to surpass CC. In the end, I have a feeling whether the scoring record is broken will come down to how many games over 139 JuJu plays in.
Maybe then Swoopes will let everyone know that her record would then be invalid....
So more to the point was CC22 playing in the last 5 minutes of those games? Also pretty B1G difference in putting your foot on the throat of Wisconsin, (a rival we played two time most years) and playing against Elon. whatever in the Hell that is.......
No doubt, JuJu is a great player but I just don't see her averaging 25+ per game this year once she gets fully into the Big Ten schedule. Barring injury, my prediction is that she will finish her career in the 3,700 point range. Remember, CC put up huge numbers in her last two seasons.
Yeah, JuJu is trending in the wrong direction.
It will be interesting to see if she plays more than 139 games in her career because I think that would be the only way she passes Caitlin.
Caitlin's Career Numbers:
Year: Points Scored
2021: 799 (30 games).........26.6 ppg
2022: 863 (32 games)........27.0 ppg
2023: 1,055 (38 games).....27.8 ppg
2024: 1,234 (39 games)......31.6 ppg
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3,951 Total Career Points...28.424 ppg (139 GP)
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Through 46 career games Clark and Watkins both had/have 1192 points.. it’s the first time they’ve been even or Clark ahead since game 17.
The next 2 games for Clark she had 18 and 20. Watkins and USC play UConn and Michigan in the next 2.
Of course the difference is Watkins will have played a handful more games by the end of her Soph season.
The next 2 games for Clark she had 18 and 20. Watkins and USC play UConn and Michigan in the next 2.
Of course the difference is Watkins will have played a handful more games by the end of her Soph season.
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That’s some bad JuJu for JuJu. The basketball gods know when you’re messing with them.
Looking at it (CC's senior season only) closer, when Iowa played the sisters of the poor like USC has a number of times this season, CC played a lot less minutes. She only played 23 minutes against Purdue Fort Wayne. Games where she was in midway through the 4th in a blowout tended to be conference games or at least games against respectable programs.
I don’t think Iowa fans get enough credit for mass hysteria that was created around her in college. Yes, her stats warranted massive attention, but Hawkeye fans were a major part of those massive crowds and continue to be at her WNBA games.
Lolol.. Can't believe were actually going to do a game to game comparison of points per game played for the next THREE years. A LOT is going to happen in the next couple of years. How about we wait until her senior year and take a look then......
