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Kamala’s lead keeps dwindling. JFC this is pitiful.

I would guesstimate perhaps 500,000 to max of 1 million per year? Not the 20 million+ in the last 3.5 years. What do YOU think the “right” number should be?
What is your "guesstimate" based on? Please provide a citation for the 20 million+ legal immigrants in the past 3.5 years.

  • 2021: Around 740,000 legal immigrants were admitted, as the country began to recover from the pandemic's impact on immigration.
  • 2022: The number of legal immigrants admitted rose to over 1 million, reflecting the Biden administration's policies on immigration.
  • 2023: Immigration numbers surged further, with approximately 1.6 millionlegal immigrants entering the U.S.(Pew Research Center)(OHSS).

To consistently achieve 2% GDP growth, a combination of population growth (primarily through immigration given the low birth rate in the US) and productivity improvements is required. A typical estimate would suggest that around 0.5% to 1% population growth is needed annually, which equates to 1.6 million to 3.3 million additional people per year, depending on other factors like productivity and labor force participation.
 
What is your "guesstimate" based on? Please provide a citation for the 20 million+ legal immigrants in the past 3.5 years.

  • 2021: Around 740,000 legal immigrants were admitted, as the country began to recover from the pandemic's impact on immigration.
  • 2022: The number of legal immigrants admitted rose to over 1 million, reflecting the Biden administration's policies on immigration.
  • 2023: Immigration numbers surged further, with approximately 1.6 millionlegal immigrants entering the U.S.(Pew Research Center)(OHSS).

To consistently achieve 2% GDP growth, a combination of population growth (primarily through immigration given the low birth rate in the US) and productivity improvements is required. A typical estimate would suggest that around 0.5% to 1% population growth is needed annually, which equates to 1.6 million to 3.3 million additional people per year, depending on other factors like productivity and labor force participation.
The United States kills 1.2 million of its future citizens to abortion every year then we turn around to justify illegals by citing low birth rates.
 
The United States kills 1.2 million of its future citizens to abortion every year then we turn around to justify illegals by citing low birth rates.
Sure - all those clumps of cells are the solution to the labor force.

What is your number for legal immigration per year?

I'm not sure how you do it, but you continue to exceed your previous levels of ignorance and stupidity.
 
Sure - all those clumps of cells are the solution to the labor force.

What is your number for legal immigration per year?

I'm not sure how you do it, but you continue to exceed your previous levels of ignorance and stupidity.
If it’s just a “clump and of cells” how the **** do you get here then? Did you just spawn in as a 7 year old one day?

250,000 is my number. 70% from Europe. 20% Asia and 10% other.
 
If it’s just a “clump and of cells” how the **** do you get here then? Did you just spawn in as a 7 year old one day?

250,000 is my number. 70% from Europe. 20% Asia and 10% other.
What is that based on?

I had no doubt that you would support economic decline.
 
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What is that based on?

I had no doubt that you would support economic decline.
If we didn't murder so many babies we wouldn't need to import the third world to subsidize our economy and the ponzi scheme that is social security.
 
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If we didn't murder so many babies we wouldn't need to import the third world to subsidize our economy and the ponzi scheme that is social security.
That's a very ignorant argument. No surprise you are using it.
 
If we didn't murder so many babies we wouldn't need to import the third world to subsidize our economy and the ponzi scheme that is social security.
Scruffy you want to come mow my lawn? I don't think so. Rico would do it for a few pesos.
 
For the last time that “immigration” bill was a joke…it still allowed too many immigrants in b4 the bill’s provisions kicked in. During the Trump administration 2.5 million immigrants entered the country…that # is much greater during the Biden/Harris administration.
That border bill that your weird girlfriends killed was the best proposed legislation in decades to address US immigration issues despite your dumb opinion on it that you are just parroting from your Trump influenced echo chamber. SAD. Republicans don’t get to speak to immigration issues now because you won’t address it. Put up or shut up. Right now it’s STFU time for y’all.

Your numbers are also false, business as usual for you, can’t trust a damn thing you contribute to these forums. Total new immigrants per year:

2017: 2,583,448
2018: 2,489,901
2019: 2,492,676
2020: 1,298,904

That’s nearly 9,000,000 new immigrants during Trump’s term and it would have been higher if not for the big drop due to Covid policy restrictions.

https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-u....&text=Sources:,Department of Homeland Securi...

You’re not fooling anyone here except for the other weirdos here like you who support a convicted felon and sexual abuser.
 
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That border bill that your weird girlfriends killed was the best proposed legislation in decades to address US immigration issues despite your dumb opinion on it that you are just parroting from your Trump influenced echo chamber. SAD. Republicans don’t get to speak to immigration issues now because you won’t address it. Put up or shut up. Right now it’s STFU time for y’all.

Your numbers are also false, business as usual for you, can’t trust a damn thing you contribute to these forums. Total new immigrants per year:

2017: 2,583,448
2018: 2,489,901
2019: 2,492,676
2020: 1,298,904

That’s nearly 9,000,000 new immigrants during Trump’s term and it would have been higher if not for the big drop due to Covid policy restrictions.

https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-u....&text=Sources:,Department of Homeland Securi...

You’re not fooling anyone here except for the other weirdos here like you who support a convicted felon and sexual abuser.
You're actually embarrassing yourself right now in so many ways. Own what you voted for. The buck stops with you.
 
That border bill that your weird girlfriends killed was the best proposed legislation in decades to address US immigration issues despite your dumb opinion on it that you are just parroting from your Trump influenced echo chamber. SAD. Republicans don’t get to speak to immigration issues now because you won’t address it. Put up or shut up. Right now it’s STFU time for y’all.

Your numbers are also false, business as usual for you, can’t trust a damn thing you contribute to these forums. Total new immigrants per year:

2017: 2,583,448
2018: 2,489,901
2019: 2,492,676
2020: 1,298,904

That’s nearly 9,000,000 new immigrants during Trump’s term and it would have been higher if not for the big drop due to Covid policy restrictions.

https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-union/immigration/#:~:text=Nearly 2.6 million people, nearly,of 2.7 million in 2016.&text=Sources:,Department of Homeland Securi...

You’re not fooling anyone here except for the other weirdos here like you who support a convicted felon and sexual abuser.
Once Donald Trump is restored to the White House we will take care of your Illegals - They will be rounded up and that includes Grandma, Grandpa, Mom, Dad, little Pedro and the rest of them.




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IF you read this entire CNN fact check piece, you will see the whole article just keeps qualifying the statistics....there were SOME convicted murderers in the U.S before the Biden Administration opened the floodgates says the piece...SO WHAT??.....it doesn't change the point that U.S immigration policy allows for convicted murderers to roam the streets of America and, in some cases, invited them in....

A point the American people must become aware of, and use their voting power to change....

Yeah there were some before the Biden administration, 405,786 and of 7-24 there are 435,719. Let's see if you can do some math here for us. lol
 
Send 11 million undocumenteds out of the country and please explain what happens to the economy. lol
Considering 11 million is a lower number than reality our economy improves since us the taxpayers will be not supporting feeding, educating, and providing healthcare to these illegals.
 
While Trump and Vance continue to prove themselves to be complete jokes, somehow half of America - and the overwhelming majority of white, Christian America - continue to support the anger, bigotry, and lunacy that we can no longer view as the downside but is actually the appeal.

Lead is now just 2.4%

Just don't vote for either person.

It's a real, actual option people can legally f***ing do.........

Don't feel obligated to vote for a candidate just because you don't want another candidate to win, or because you're f***ing afraid of "wasting your vote".

If there's no good Democratic or Republican candidate, and there is factually not, sorry if that hurts someone's feelings..............THEN DON'T F***ING VOTE FOR THEM.

You're welcome.
 
Just don't vote for either person.

It's a real, actual option people can legally f***ing do.........

Don't feel obligated to vote for a candidate just because you don't want another candidate to win, or because you're f***ing afraid of "wasting your vote".

If there's no good Democratic or Republican candidate, and there is factually not, sorry if that hurts someone's feelings..............THEN DON'T F***ING VOTE FOR THEM.

You're welcome.
I’m not sure you understood my post.

I’m voting for Harris because a vote for Trump is a vote for madness and depravity. What’s depressing is that so many millions of Americans view him as a great choice to be the leader of the free world. It seems, at this point, that it’s not in spite of what a vile man he is - it’s because of it.

If most Americans were rational this race would not be close. It should not be close. That it is, is depressing because it speaks so poorly about who we are as a people.
 
Just don't vote for either person.

It's a real, actual option people can legally f***ing do.........

Don't feel obligated to vote for a candidate just because you don't want another candidate to win, or because you're f***ing afraid of "wasting your vote".

If there's no good Democratic or Republican candidate, and there is factually not, sorry if that hurts someone's feelings..............THEN DON'T F***ING VOTE FOR THEM.

You're welcome.
LOL calm down, Spud.
 
The undocumented workers are helping our economy, so you are just posting lies. I guess that makes you a liar. Congrats!
You are insane if you believe that. Illegals (that's exactly what they are) are a drain on our resources. Look at the impact on the school systems throughout the U.S. Illegals impact our healthcare, they flood the emergency rooms throughout the U.S. Illegals impact our social services throughout the U.S. shelters are overflowing, pantries have been emptied.

Our families and loved ones are being murdered, raped, and robbed by illegals throughout the U.S.
 
I’m not sure you understood my post.

I’m voting for Harris because a vote for Trump is a vote for madness and depravity.
I'm not sure you understood my post.......

What part about not voting for one candidate because you don't want the other candidate to win don't you understand?

Voting is meant to be about who you think deserves to be President because they're the best person for the job. Not who you don't want, or because it's the lesser of two evils.

No one is forcing you to choose between the lesser of two evils. Doing it is actually part of the f***ing problem. So are you gonna keep being part of the f***ing problem by voting for Harris, who doesn't deserve to be President anymore than Trump does....and wgaf how much more or less, or are you gonna be part of the solution?

Stop voting against parties, and stop allowing your own party to keep giving you garbage options to vote for.

Thanks in advance. :)


P.S. assume I'd say the say thing to Republican voters, including telling them not to vote for Trump. Deal with it.
 
I'm not sure you understood my post.......

What part about not voting for one candidate because you don't want the other candidate to win don't you understand?

Voting is meant to be about who you think deserves to be President because they're the best person for the job. Not who you don't want, or because it's the lesser of two evils.

No one is forcing you to choose between the lesser of two evils. Doing it is actually part of the f***ing problem. So are you gonna keep being part of the f***ing problem by voting for Harris, who doesn't deserve to be President anymore than Trump does....and wgaf how much more or less, or are you gonna be part of the solution?

Stop voting against parties, and stop allowing your own party to keep giving you garbage options to vote for.

Thanks in advance. :)


P.S. assume I'd say the say thing to Republican voters, including telling them not to vote for Trump. Deal with it.

But none of that is any way responsive to my post.

You’re just griping and trying to make it sound like both candidate are equally bad. I did not have the luxury of choosing the candidates. But I certainly have a preference between the two in front of us.

And every rational person should.
 
I'm not sure you understood my post.......

What part about not voting for one candidate because you don't want the other candidate to win don't you understand?

Voting is meant to be about who you think deserves to be President because they're the best person for the job. Not who you don't want, or because it's the lesser of two evils.

No one is forcing you to choose between the lesser of two evils. Doing it is actually part of the f***ing problem. So are you gonna keep being part of the f***ing problem by voting for Harris, who doesn't deserve to be President anymore than Trump does....and wgaf how much more or less, or are you gonna be part of the solution?

Stop voting against parties, and stop allowing your own party to keep giving you garbage options to vote for.

Thanks in advance. :)


P.S. assume I'd say the say thing to Republican voters, including telling them not to vote for Trump. Deal with it.
Job interviews don't work this way. You are given a list of applicants. And you have to choose the best person available from that list. We have a strict deadline of November 5 to make this choice. It with either be Harris. Or it will be Trump. Nobody else has a shot. That is reality.

So you have to make your choice.

Sure you can call for better options. Or third parties. But the deadline is five weeks away. We simply don't have to time to seriously exercise those options.
 
But none of that is any way responsive to my post.
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trying to make it sound like both candidate are equally bad.
You're trying to make it sound like that's what I said. You can't know if my head is in the sand when yours is stuck in there itself............

I did not have the luxury of choosing the candidates.
Why not?

But I certainly have a preference between the two in front of us.
I already know. What does that have to do with voting for someone you don't believe deserves to be President?

Your response to that question: "Durr uhhh wut does that have ta do with anything in muh post?.........."

And every rational person should.
Again, why are you voting for Harris simply because you don't want Trump to win? It's not that hard to answer. You just don't want to accept that the right thing to do is vote for neither candidate because it goes against your archaic political beliefs.

I agree that Trump shouldn't be President. It's also true that you don't have to vote for Harris in order to keep that from happening, as if you have no other choice...................

Hope that helps! ;)
 
Job interviews don't work this way. You are given a list of applicants. And you have to choose the best person available from that list. We have a strict deadline of November 5 to make this choice. It with either be Harris. Or it will be Trump. Nobody else has a shot. That is reality.

So you have to make your choice.

Sure you can call for better options. Or third parties. But the deadline is five weeks away. We simply don't have to time to seriously exercise those options.
I'll expand my reply to your post a little later, but I'm in a hurry right now and just wanted to say I get what you were going for, but you lost it towards the end.

Can't leave any room for what looks like excuses when making these "metaphor" arguments..........;)

I'll explain more later. Stay tuned! :D
 
Job interviews don't work this way. (Well, you see, there were a number of entry level interviews to decide who to narrow the pool of candidates down to and the employers did a piss poor job of making their cuts and then final cuts, so since this is a recurring problem for the "company" of America, maybe we need to look into the people doing the hiring.........................yeah? No? Mmmm........that's what I thought.)You are given a list of applicants. And you have to choose the best person available from that list. (Actually, you have every legal right to choose not to, nor should you be shamed for choosing not to.......but wait boys and girls, there's more! There's even an option to, wait for it........write in your own candidate job applicant. I can legally nominate Huey Grey for the job, and if enough people then "vote" for him to be hired, guess what......the job is his! What a f***ing concept!!! :D Isn't our country's election hiring process great!?!?!) We have a strict deadline of November 5 to make this choice. (Yeah, and?......) It will either be Harris. Or it will be Trump. Nobody else has a shot. That is reality. (No, that's just a refusal to try to find someone better. I mean for f*** sake, if we can all admit that neither one of these people should be President.......then why the f*** are we still sitting here on our hands saying "welp I guess we just have to herpty derpty derp deal with it"..............? You like analogies, so here's one. This is like someone standing in the middle of an empty highway, then noticing a car coming in the distance over a mile away and being like, "Welp, I guess the car is gonna hit me. There's nothing I can do except wait for it to happen. There's no way I can avoid this car coming at me on this empty road."..............................That is literally, not metaphorically, how you f***ing people sound regarding this discussion about who to vote for hire. Do you understand why that's maddening to a person like me who abhors politics? ***That's rhetorical btw, I don't really care, because typically the answer is no, most don't understand.)

So you have to make your choice. (Well, you're right, we do get to choose.....)

Sure you can call for better options. (Umm....didn't you just say its "either or"? What's this about other options now?.....) Or third parties. (Now you're adding in third parties? What the hell is going on here?) But the deadline is five weeks away. (Again......how far away is the car that's about to hit you? 5 weeks away?...............Then get off your f***ing ass and MOVE OUT OF THE WAY. Don't f***ing lie to me and tell me you can't. What you're really saying is that you...."won't".) We simply don't have to time to seriously exercise those options.
Sounds to me like you have 5 weeks.............you gonna use that time wisely or are people gonna sit on their ass and complain?

That's also rhetorical btw, because we know that it's not just the politicians and the government that's to blame here. ;);););)🤫





P.S. sorry, I had to do my thing. ;)
 
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