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Kamala Harris receives worst vice presidential rating in NBC News poll's history

To be fair I think the earliest primaries start in like Feb of 2024 and I doubt they would be able to add candidates in the middle of it. These things don't get put together last minute.

So honestly if Biden dies anytime in 2024, Harris is probably the nominee.

A thing a lot of people forget when it comes to VP's is that once you pick one you are kind of stuck with them. Because today people would view a change in VP (or a person other than the VP stepping in when a incumbant president running for re-election dies), that would be viewed as an admission that a mistake was made in selecting that person in the first place. And you can't really admit mistakes in politics, especially not mistakes at that level.
I disagree, but fair point and it’s a reasonable position.
 
To be fair I think the earliest primaries start in like Feb of 2024 and I doubt they would be able to add candidates in the middle of it. These things don't get put together last minute.

So honestly if Biden dies anytime in 2024, Harris is probably the nominee.

A thing a lot of people forget when it comes to VP's is that once you pick one you are kind of stuck with them. Because today people would view a change in VP (or a person other than the VP stepping in when a incumbant president running for re-election dies), that would be viewed as an admission that a mistake was made in selecting that person in the first place. And you can't really admit mistakes in politics, especially not mistakes at that level.
Actually, one big point that I disagree with is Biden dying before the DNC, particularly if he gets even a solid token challenge. I would guess that there would be a very quick flurry of activity and there would be a new favorite (remember all the power of the super delegates plus any remaining states). Maybe Kamala would win (and she might very well if Biden’s death was a politically related hit), but I think it would be more likely that they’d fly together quickly find another candidate.
 
Actually, one big point that I disagree with is Biden dying before the DNC, particularly if he gets even a solid token challenge. I would guess that there would be a very quick flurry of activity and there would be a new favorite (remember all the power of the super delegates plus any remaining states). Maybe Kamala would win (and she might very well if Biden’s death was a politically related hit), but I think it would be more likely that they’d fly together quickly find another candidate.

I don't think there will be a solid quality candidate at all. Only notable person running against Biden is RFK and he's an anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist, not going to fit in with Dems at all.

I think if there was a legit primary, Harris would lose but any primary that started that late in the game would leave too little time for other people to jump in. So at the convention they would just nominate Harris and have her pick her VP nominee.
 
I don't think there will be a solid quality candidate at all. Only notable person running against Biden is RFK and he's an anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist, not going to fit in with Dems at all.

I think if there was a legit primary, Harris would lose but any primary that started that late in the game would leave too little time for other people to jump in. So at the convention they would just nominate Harris and have her pick her VP nominee.
I’ll be curious (presuming Biden does live through the primary season, as I think he will), if they stick with Harris as VP. I have my own opinions, but I’d be curious why she was the pick in the first place. Did they think she was solid on policy and would be good as a POTUS replacement? Did they pick her based on demographics to pick up votes? Etc. This next term would be Biden’s last, whether he governs all the way through or not, so even if we acknowledge that VP isn’t necessarily a stepping stone for POTUS, would be curious whether the Dems want someone on The ticket to look like the heir apparent.
 
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Ok, that was pretty good.

Although I disagree with you 100% that a Trump second term would’ve been better than Biden. It’s not even close.
I don't recall saying it would out wouldn't be better, that is all pure speculation at this point. I just said you voted for a rock.
 
Correct. That's why I said I doubt those that profess to hate her so much are probably either being dramatic, or are very shallow. It's a lot of hyperbole.
This is wrong. She is TERRIBLE. The problem is there is such partisanship on BOTH sides that even when people who are as worthless as Trump, Biden and Harris (among others) do a crapsh!t job.....there team will keep blindly saying they are doing AWESOME. It is a joke
 
Good Grief...just no. Come on.

You really gonna argue that DJT is not the most unprepared and dysfunctional potus ever? Ffs, even the reviled Andrew Johnson knew the basics of how the government functions. He's lucky, if anyone around him had known what they were doing he may be in deeper sh!t than he already finds himself.
 
You really gonna argue that DJT is not the most unprepared and dysfunctional potus ever? Ffs, even the reviled Andrew Johnson knew the basics of how the government functions. He's lucky, if anyone around him had known what they were doing he may be in deeper sh!t than he already finds himself.
I am telling you they are BOTH terrible. They BOTH need to be kept away from the Presidency....it is as simple as that. Again, to say otherwise is partisan junk.
 
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This is wrong. She is TERRIBLE. The problem is there is such partisanship on BOTH sides that even when people who are as worthless as Trump, Biden and Harris (among others) do a crapsh!t job.....there team will keep blindly saying they are doing AWESOME. It is a joke

What duties is she so terrible at? Making you and others feel good? Is she not showing up to vote with Dems in tied Senate votes?

Fwiw, I don't agree with the way she handled her AG job in CA, but that's a long way from home and has nothing to do with the do nothing job of VP.

It's cute to see such continued concern for the health of the POTUS and the new level of scrutiny of the VP's office. It's so reminiscent of Hillary Clinton's impending blindness/stroke/death that it almost seems contrived.
 
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I am telling you they are BOTH terrible. They BOTH need to be kept away from the Presidency....it is as simple as that. Again, to say otherwise is partisan junk.

I don't think history will agree with your analysis at all. Domestic policy preferences aside, the Biden administration is navigating the historically challengeling times pretty effectively.
 
What duties is she so terrible at? Making you and others feel good? Is she not showing up to vote with Dems in tied Senate votes?

Fwiw, I don't agree with the way she handled her AG job in CA, but that's a long way from home and has nothing to do with the do nothing job of VP.

It's cute to see such continued concern for the health of the POTUS and the new level of scrutiny of the VP's office. It's so reminiscent of Hillary Clinton's impending blindness/stroke/death that it almost seems contrived.
Good Grief.......The Border...putting a coherent sentence together, ect. I didn't start this thread. But, if someone asks, about Harris (or Trump or Biden) I have zero problem giving my honest opinion. I love how people will do and say anything to make sure their "Team" looks good...even if the contrary is smacking them in the face. Ugh.
 
This is wrong. She is TERRIBLE. The problem is there is such partisanship on BOTH sides that even when people who are as worthless as Trump, Biden and Harris (among others) do a crapsh!t job.....there team will keep blindly saying they are doing AWESOME. It is a joke
Who in this thread has said Harris is doing “AWESOME”. I have said, as have others, that I have no idea how to grade VPs due to the very nature of the job.
 
Who in this thread has said Harris is doing “AWESOME”. I have said, as have others, that I have no idea how to grade VPs due to the very nature of the job.
Check all the post. Anyone who says she is not TERRIBLE is in fact defending her. LOL!
 
I don't think history will agree with your analysis at all. Domestic policy preferences aside, the Biden administration is navigating the historically challengeling times pretty effectively.
Afghanistan? He left hundreds of American citizens left to die. He handed terrorists billions of dollars in military weapons.

Biden should be in prison right now!!!!!!
 
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Good Grief.......The Border...putting a coherent sentence together, ect. I didn't start this thread. But, if someone asks, about Harris (or Trump or Biden) I have zero problem giving my honest opinion. I love how people will do and say anything to make sure their "Team" looks good...even if the contrary is smacking them in the face. Ugh.

You'd have to actually believe that she was going to be in charge of "the border" for that to matter, which is kind of silly when the DHS already has a cabinet position.

I love it when posters both sides these convos and talk down their nose about perceived partisanship when literally nobody is saying she's done anything remarkable or even above-average, just that calling her the worst ever or saying she's some sort of threat is ridiculous hyperbole that likely originates in a political strategy office somewhere. It just doesn't matter as much as many that wouldn't ever vote for her want others to believe.
 
You'd have to actually believe that she was going to be in charge of "the border" for that to matter, which is kind of silly when the DHS already has a cabinet position.

I love it when posters both sides these convos and talk down their nose about perceived partisanship when literally nobody is saying she's done anything remarkable or even above-average, just that calling her the worst ever or saying she's some sort of threat is ridiculous hyperbole that likely originates in a political strategy office somewhere. It just doesn't matter as much as many that wouldn't ever vote for her want others to believe.
And you would have to actually understand and admit that she is one inch from the Presidency. You can minimize her all you want, the fact is that I would do not want her, Biden or Trump anywhere near the Presidency. And most American agree with me.
 
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