Keegan Cryptic Message?
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Keegan is already 22 this year. I'm not sure I recall last lottery pick who was 23 years old honestly. and yes 1 year matters to NBA execs..alot. They are making a massive $$ investment and they want as many years as possible.
You simply don't risk an injury..
Nothing Keegan can do will raise his stock anymore...nothing.
I"ll flip it around...Name the last 22 year old who has played 2 years of college and is a consensus Top 10 pick decided to play 1 more year for a non blue blood?
Would be like Ivey returning for Purdue and Keegan game is much more polished.
I get it...Love Keegan and he and his Dad won't even hesitate to spend another year in Iowa City just because "it is fun and he likes his brother".. I'm quite sure Kris will enjoy driving around in a new Range Rover.
I have a hard time believing that being one year older will cost Keegan much money on an NBA contract at the level he is already playing. I don't know though. I'm no expert on any of that. I started this thread because I thought it sounded like he might come back. I didn't expect to go so far down this road.
I would be shocked if he did not leave for the NBA; he's projected as a top 10 pick, after all.
But none of us know what Keegan is thinking; do any of us have a twin? Maybe Keegan wants to play with his twin brother one more year and enter the NBA together.
I, of course, am just spit balling. I have no idea what he ULTIMATELY will do. None of us do. Either way, I am excited for his future.
If Fran allows him back he should be fired. Point the kid in the right direction to make the right choice which is obviously being a lottery pick and securing the bag. And to the OP asking about coming back one year, it hurts a lot actually. A year older and his stock can fall depending on the draft class and performance. There are always great 18 year olds coming up that replace the other 18 year olds getting drafted in the lottery.
Fair enough, and I can agree with that. But most players aren't teammates with their twin brother on the same division 1 program their father played on, let alone helped produce them as a first team All-American.
There's a lot of sentimental value there outside of making money.
Honestly, you should just quit message boards, or at the very least, this one if this is your take. Most of us here greatly appreciate Kenyon (or any parent of a current Iowa athlete) being on these boards and giving us his thoughts and insights. Your current opinion on this message board, on the other hand, sucks. Lame. Seriously.
Keegan's going to go to the NBA this year and make lots of money.
And he's going to be a very good pro.
And he's going to be a very good pro.
That’s your conjecture. Forgive me, but I’ll wait to hear it from Keegan before I believe some “fan” on a message board.
Certainly not to make people like you happy. You should go find another team to root for. Perhaps, Kentucky or Connecticut.
I'm sure it was agonizing for him to wait this long for Iowa to have a bad game, but I see Roy finally got an opportunity to come back from the shadows to sling $hit again.
Great post and agree with it all. I believe his financial risk is based on age; 22 is old for NBA lottery pick on average(next year 23). In order to maintain his current NBA value he would have to show even more growth in his game and lead his team deeper into NCAA. I don't doubt this young man as he got better all season but facts are facts and risk is risk. Not sure the NIL amount that makes sense to even consider coming back as part of the equation. A super quality family and we are fortunate for this year and that we had the twins as Hawks. Kenyon has been great with his posts-he knew!! I wish Keegan well and we will see.
One game will not hurt is NBA potential one iota.
Leaving would not only be what's best for him but also best for the program (in the long run). He is a lotto pick, it'll grab more national media attention, therefore pulling interest for more talented recruits to come to dip their toes in and see what might be in the water in Iowa City. His staying risks injury, losing draft stock, or getting paid - which by the way he won't make up in NIL let's be real with each other, and for what?
Yes, it'd be cool to run it back, and would it be worth it for him to stay if we got to the second weekend in the tourney? OR even further? would that garner more attention than we've already gained now by his phenomenal season? I think it would definitely. But the chances of that are low, look at our track record. Just being real. His being on the team would definitely boost our chances, but is it worth the risk for him as an individual? The way draft stock and players are analyzed with their age I have to go with No. Realistically I think the benefit for both parties is mutually beneficial. It's not a win-lose, we are set up to be a more experienced, competitive group that won the B1G tourney last year. I hope expectations aren't too high because I don't see someone averaging over 23 ppg for the 4th year in a row but you never know!
So you're saying that if a 22 yr old makes a decision to stay and play next yr Fran should be fired.
Fran is not even in the equation. Kegan is responsible for that decision.
Fran is definitely in the equation to make sure the young man makes the right decision. Head coaches have a massive impact on young people and help sway their decision. If I’m Fran I would tell him you are going to the NBA no matter what. Don’t even try or act like there is a chance that he would come back.
But if Fran tries to lose Keegan millions of dollars to convince him to return for selfish reasons, I believe he should be fired as he is showing he isn’t in it for the players future.
Fran will not try to make Kegan stay or go. Kegan will get input from NBA advisors and his family. If Kegan goes Fran will wish him well. If Kegan wants to stay he will welcome him with that choice. Fran has no say in the matter just like you and I don't either.
Yes he does haha. You are ignorant to think a college basketball head coach of a young man has no say or input on the matter. You even hear Kirk talk about talking to the players about their decision to go pro because head coaches are super impactful on the decisions these young men make.
I'm feeling this too. The twin thing is big if you've ever observed any of those relationships before. Only so many chances to play together before really being separated if basketball continues for both.
And you said that Fran should be fired if he talked Kegan into staying. Fran can give advice like Kirk but in the end it's Kegan's choice not Frans or Kirk for FB players.
Good God. Fran's advice is going to be telling Keegan he thinks what's best for him is to pursue the NBA opportunity, and then tell him he'll support his decision either way. This isn't hard.
Yes that is correct haha. And no shit it is Keegan’s***** choice but like I’m saying Frans advice (or any D1 coach) would be very impactful on any of these young man’s voices. Example 1, JoBo coming back lol. Idk why you keep inferring that I am thinking Fran makes the choice for Keegan, it’s obviously Keegan’s and his families.
Post # 87 you said Fran should be fired if he allows Kegan to come back.
Why should Fran be fired if Kegan should decide to come back?
Why should Fran be fired if Kegan should decide to come back?
They aren't 13 years old. They are 22 this year. Are they going to live together when they are 30?
I don't think people quite grasp what is going to be handed to the young man and his family. A check so large that it alters your entire family life for generations potentially.
Love the kid and Murray's but go get paid kid. We aren't talking about playing in Europe and making $800,000 (Garza).
Keegan going pro actually improves Kris's stock to get drafted substantially as well. Kris's team next year and he takes the role of Keegan next year.
Bc if something happened to Keegan injury wise or even just being a year older..new draft..etc and his stock drops out of Lottery or even out 1st rd...then Fran would never ever be able to get a high profile kid again.
Linderbaum absolutely loves Iowa and being in Iowa city...and Kirk lovingly told him "you don't come back when you are going in 1st rd."..
Keep in mind it is 20x harder to get drafted in the NBA lottery than getting drafted in 1st rd of NFL.
Odds are so astronomical getting drafted in lottery in NBA it is crazy.
Luka is in Europe? Making only $800k? That's news to all of us.
Oh no, he's got a 2 year $2.5MM contract with the Pistons, with over $900k guaranteed.
Luka Garza | NBA Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com
Luka Garza signed a 2 year, $4,512,184 contract with the Minnesota Timberwolves, including $2,162,606 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,256,092. In 2024-25, Garza will earn a base salary of $2,162,606, while carrying a cap hit of $2,162,606 and a dead cap value of $2,162,606.
You really took the Fran making the choice for Keegan as literal? Lol
Come on man, use your head
I think we're reading too much into Keegan's message. He may sound like he's alluding to unfinished business, but it's from a program standpoint and not a personal one.
That said, I don't personally think it's a 100% given that he goes pro. But it's well north of 90% and probably closer to 100 than 90. He has the goods to be Iowa's most decorated pro since BJ Armstrong, and having a former Hawkeye as an NBA All Star (one recruits know, and not their parents or grandparents) can absolutely help with future recruiting.
That said, I don't personally think it's a 100% given that he goes pro. But it's well north of 90% and probably closer to 100 than 90. He has the goods to be Iowa's most decorated pro since BJ Armstrong, and having a former Hawkeye as an NBA All Star (one recruits know, and not their parents or grandparents) can absolutely help with future recruiting.
Keegan talked about changing the history of IOWA basketball. Despite the great run in the BTT, they haven't done it. Fran still doesn't win in the big dance...until he does, the trajectory hasn't changed.
Put that together with the idea that he may want to play with his brother one more year, I could see Keegan coming back despite the fact that many see him as a lottery pick. We'll know in about 5 weeks.
Put that together with the idea that he may want to play with his brother one more year, I could see Keegan coming back despite the fact that many see him as a lottery pick. We'll know in about 5 weeks.
