That's due in large part because they have to. It is very hard in this system for an Independent candidate to be viable.
Krysten Sinema switching to Independent
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Kelly just won re-election. Hobbs is the governor. The SoS is a Dem. That isn’t purely because the Republicans ran crappy candidates. A good Dem candidate could supplant her. If you are right then some Republicans would also vote for a good Dem in a three way race in 2024.
That’s a very clever post. You really burned up the Libs. So nuanced and clever.
Sinema voted with Democrats to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, which establishes a 15% minimum corporate tax.
She may have that in mind, but why would the Rs reward her when they could reward a "good" Republican?
She’d better have a solid fundraising team. She won’t get any party money in 2024.
Fight the two party system, with a bought and sold politician. Effing hilarious.
I think you're being naive. Why is she announcing this a few days after Georgia's special election, and not earlier?
Not popular among the D base. . . but what about the general election?
Dems are playing a stupid game in a critical swing state if they run someone against her.
???? You're saying a critical mass on independent candidates is what is needed to get independent candidates elected?
I think she plays to both sides. Similar to Joe M.
It's chicken/egg. There's no "Independent Party" to support Independent candidates. The only one in recent memory that had support was Ross Perot and that was largely self funded. The massive amounts of monies that go to the two main parties largely prevents a third party from emerging - and that's by design.
If a Republican wins her Senate seat in 2024, Sinema will be the only one to blame. She was a constant roadblock for numerous things Biden campaigned on and even killed one of the most popular items (HR1). Then when it became clear she is getting primaried and most likely lose the nomination, she switches Independent and muddies the water for a Democratic nominee.
Run an actual Democrat against her in the general even if it costs them her seat. This Karen shouldn't be rewarded for her selfish behavior.
You guys truly are entertaining to watch. Four years ago you were ecstatic that she beat McSally to flip a Senate seat in a traditionally red state. Now in 2022, even before today's announcement, you've branded her a 'loser', a 'phony', and a 'sellout'.
This woman has voted in line with the rest of her party 93.1% of the time - more than Bernie Sanders (91.4%). More than either one of the senators from Nevada (Rosen and Cortez Masto are both 91.5%). More than Jon Tester of Montana (89.8%).
You guys demand absolute, unwavering fealty to the party and anything less gets you the Nicky Santoro treatment.
This woman has voted in line with the rest of her party 93.1% of the time - more than Bernie Sanders (91.4%). More than either one of the senators from Nevada (Rosen and Cortez Masto are both 91.5%). More than Jon Tester of Montana (89.8%).
You guys demand absolute, unwavering fealty to the party and anything less gets you the Nicky Santoro treatment.
And that voting record doesn’t tell the whole story. I’m not recalling Sanders holding up major Democratic legislative priorities, which was the point of my post. Certainly Angus King hasn’t.
Lol. "Independents" who vote with their party what? >98% of the time?
I'm sure Susan Collins will write me a strongly worded letter for that comment.
She held up the Inflation Reduction Act until Dems agreed to implement a 1% excise tax on corporate stock buybacks instead of closing the carried interest loophole. Then she voted for the bill.
What else has she held up?
Keeps her from getting tossed in a primary.
D’s won’t run against her as it’d give the seat to the R’s. Split the D vote
Smart move
D’s won’t run against her as it’d give the seat to the R’s. Split the D vote
Smart move
Jesus dude, I’m not going to argue with you. If you believe Sinema has been as reliable for the Ds as Angus King and Bernie Sanders then fine.
You stated that she has held up major Democratic legislative priorities and I simply asked for some examples. I'm not sure why you consider that an unreasonable request.
Ds will absolutely run against her. She has near zero support in the party anymore.
Seven other Democrats also voted no on that amendment, including both senators from Delaware and both senators from New Hampshire.Increase in the federal minimum wage:
Also, you gotta admit that cheerleader skirt is kinda sexy.
I only recall one senator resigning his seat because he switched parties. That was Phil Gramm from Texas. He was a democrat and switched to the GOP. He resigned and then ran as a Republican (and obviously won).
