Kueter Rise?
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265 lbs. is the number for wrestling and football. And hand on the ground is where he needs to go for football.
Thank you.
An issue is that 265 for wrestling means a heavier weight for football due to the difference in type of training involved.
Imagine thinking he recently weighed in at 250. Maybe open one of the 50 posts where someone mentions what he weighed in at.
I will stand by my allegation that Ben Kueter is no Lou Banach. Or, for that matter, he is no Bruce Baumgartner.
Well good for you! You stand by it. SMH
What random fans think matters none. Many aren't Iowa fans and are here causing trouble. I know it's difficult when people bash Ben but just ignore it and stay positive. My advice would be log off the forum and don't log back in until Ben is done competing.
I know this and yet here I am. 🙈. It’s SO tough when you see the other side of it. The eating, the lifting, training, the mental side of this sport is brutal, getting good grades, taking care of your body, etc. it’s often lonely and you have to make good choices. I ALWAYS tell my boys “pressure is a privilege but unfortunately it comes with alot of outside noise”. I asked Ben yesterday of he was still having fun and he said, “I hate losing”. This was during his second dinner 🤣.
At any rate, I appreciate all of the support he gets and don’t mind at all, the comments about “let’s get on our offense” or “or the weight comments” or “move your feet” “create angles” things like that. I know what he is capable of, it seems at each new milestone we have to find our way. Even me apparently 🤣🤣🤣
It’s like the Godfather movie , “Just when I thought I was out, they keep pulling me back in” 🤣.
I’m a fighter so it’s tough for me stay off but I will try and work on it.
I have to go, meeting him at 11:30 church.
i noticed you said boys - is there another young kueter on the way to becoming a Hawkeye?
I was thinking about Banach as a similar body type for Keuter to emulate. A little more in the legs, able to hoist Baumgartner. But the similarity is size and athleticism. If Keuter can develop that pace, look out. He knows it, but he still needs to do it.
Ma’am don’t worry about what turds on here say, Ben will improve and enjoy success as a Hawk. Luffman has been wrestling D-1 for 5 years and is savvy. Ben has the athleticism and the more active he is, he’s going to score. A few more seconds on the clock and he finishes that last TD attempt. Hes right there. I anticipate him being a bracket buster type at B10s. Next week is another big test vs tOSU. Let’s go Ben!!!!
So you are saying he will be a low seed at B10s? Not very complimentary Ma'am.
Exactly! Dan told him after the match that he didn’t lose, he ran out of time. Told him to remember that and attack earlier. We don’t need a whole period to feel a guy out. That was good advice
This. There are plenty of better upper weight coaches out there that Iowa could get, but look how much worse specifically Hill and Glazier are this year vs previously in their careers. He must be doing something better than other coaches.
If @Sportsmomof3 is Ben’s mom, God love her. Gotta be tough coming here for criticism from old, flabby wannabes who never got close to the athletic level her son’s at, in both sports. An outsider, I don’t know all the backstory or what sport the kid truly favors. From the little I’ve seen of him on the mat, he’s clearly more athletic than those who outweigh or outmuscle him. If his fulltime commitment to wrestling goes at least another year, though, I expect his critics will go the way of the dinosaur.
Sidebar: Only fools mess with mama bears.
Sidebar: Only fools mess with mama bears.
I don’t wear black and gold colored glasses. I call it like I see it. Ben is very athletic and talented, but thus far has struggled against larger, experienced heavyweights. There are quite a few of those in the B10s. Steveson, Kerk, Feldman, Slavikouski, Heindselman, and Luffman are all ranked higher than Ben currently. Bullock and Nevills are both big, tough heavies. B10s is absolutely loaded at Hwt. Can Ben knock some of these guys off between now and March? Absolutely, but he could also be looking at a 7-10 seed at B10s.
Which in case of a 7 thru 10 seed a bracket buster...?
Hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see him anywhere near a top five guy. He’s just got a long way to go.
Once you understand that half the posters just Google crap to phuq with others the better it is. Don't take this board seriously. However, there are also many passionate and informative posters.
Gable Steveson is the modern day Baumgartner and Banach. Gable is 265. Ben is probably a Top 6-15 Heavyweight as a Redshirt Freshman at his current weight. Because of the Covid year, the current HWT class is brutal.
Even if he is not able to gain another pound, he will learn to adapt his style and will have a real chance at being a high AA in the next few years, even next year. Even a low AA finish this year would be incredible, and possible.. He's a legit stud in a weight full of big bad old dudes, in a style (folk style) that doesn't penalize inactivity of these big dudes. It's tough to be at the top, especially at HWT, because of the strength disadvantage he has.
Give him time. Didn't he just get 2nd in U20 Worlds, and physically matched a top 10 guy in the world? These folk style guys are allowed to do nothing. If they are allowed just to defend, it's hard for the smaller guy to get a takedown without a scramble--and some scrambles you are going to lose. And...if refs allow no activity until the end, there will be just one scramble.
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We’re a bit early to put the B10 bracket together on 01/19, but I think he improves as the season goes along and ends up outperforming his seed at B10.
I completely agree that's why I mentioned a question mark to a bracket buster. To me that's demeaning to BK to even post that. Huge opportunity to be a high seed and thus not a bracket buster.
Realistically it’s going to be very tough to get a high seed with that loss to Luffman. He’s still got Kerk, Gable, Feldman (already beat Luffman 7-3), and Nevills from Maryland in conference. Heinseldman from Michigan (won Midlands and looked great, taking out Bullock from Indiana in the finals) and the Rutgers kid is also a stud, Ben won’t get a chance to face either one in the regular season, so he’d have to hope Luffman beats them in order to out seed them. Very tough road for him, he’d make me nervous if I was another B10 coach, because he’s going to keep getting better.
Last year 7 from B10s qualified with 1 at large so 8-10 is going to be a gamble to get to the dance? Would feel more comfortable not being a 8-10 seed going into Bigs.
Well then Big Ben needs to upset Feldman. Kerk and Gable? C’mon let’s be real. The B10 will however allocate more than 7 this year. The weight is stacked.
Can someone get BK a new headgear so he is not constantly screwing with it the entire match!!!
Speaking of Kerkvliet - he was also undersized initially as a HWT. Cassioppi majored Kerkvliet initially. The next year matches got closer, and eventually Kerkvliet grew into the HWT class and became the dominant HWT he is now. Keuter is only a freshman and needs to grow into the HWT class.
I’m not talking for only two months. I’m talking for the next few years. Not sure how you calculated where I said two months but people do try to put words in mouths here.
lol Stop it. There’s no scenario where he doesn’t make the NCAAs.
He was the 11th ranked guy and he lost a close match to the 12th ranked guy. Everyone needs to take a couple deep breaths.
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Mom,
I think there are a lot of guys going through this same scenario in their late teenage years. I'm sure it's not easy, but he's not the only one who is lonely doing the work it takes. If he really hates losing. he will continue to do just that and will end up successful, whether that means a title or in life. I've got faith, stay positive and know Hawkeye Nation is behind him!
Posters haven't been doing this regarding Ben. 99% of those who've been critical of his performances are huge fans who'd love nothing more than to see him succeed. This is a fan message board, where people come to discuss their observations, opinions and occasionally vent. It's not intended to be a way to communicate directly to athletes or parents. If parents don't like the things they see on here, by all means they're welcome to express that... but they shouldn't expect message board posters to stop doing what they do.
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