All depends on how much he weighs and when he gets in the room.
My understanding is he's going to be spending less time on the football practice field and more time putting on weight and getting ready for the upcoming wrestling season.
Can he yes. My opinion is that those expectations are a bit much now . Ben is always training wrestling. He gets in the room plenty still
The plan to gain weight for an offensive lineman would be different than that of any other position. I doubt Kueter would be on anything remotely like that since the last thing football will want to do is limit his speed and agilty too much.
He was around 230 in July.
The plan to gain weight is the same no matter the position. Shit it’s the same for you and I. More calories in then calories out. He has world class nutritionist helping him do it. He has the frame….and let’s not forget he was well over 200 to begin with. Him being 240 by January isn’t far fetched.
My guy... do you not remember the Keddy and Beatty glow up?
Stupid mistake 😆 I just posted something on him today and still did that…
🤣 Rodney!! Love Rodney!Yes when he fully committed himself to mass gain and wasn't trying to train and compete at the same time...in two sports.
Do you think Kueter is going to be around for 5 years? I do not.
Considering he's not a starter for football (and it sounds like he will be next year) - we should use him. He's athletic, he's won a junior world gold, and more importantly - he's going to have the time to be in the room MUCH earlier (possibly full time wrestling come 1st day of practice, versus not until January when he's a starter).
That's where Ben will struggle the most is on bottom like most freshman. Ben has never been ridden in high school by anyone and has spent very little time in that position. And the fact that he will be giving up some size doesn't help. Not a ton of HWT ride on top but a few do. Hendrickson & Pitzer will be the 2 best on top this year .
Other thing to note is that Kueter locked up a cradle off Carroll's shot and pinned him quickly in the first match. Was a big upset. In the rematch, Carroll ragdolled him for a pretty easy tech in the fargo finals. If those results were flipped, we'd pretty confidently say Kueter "just got caught" in the first one.
I think he can be that guy. But saying that now it's putting unrealistic expectations on him out of the gate. Guys who are 138/145 they dont struggle for partners and feels coming up. Ben hasn't had many partners close to his ability along the way. He has Cass now and others so he's getting the feels.
Keep in mind, i'm going off the possibility he'll be in the room full time come the very first practice. Apparently Cass gets to stay in the room - so Ben will literally have one of NCAA's best riders available as a freaking practice partner. He's going to make big gains across the course of an entire season.
There is a big difference between November and March of a hammer's true freshman year, let alone looking backwards to highschool.
Don't forget that football pays for his all-inclusive scholarship and they will most likely require that he attend their in-season practices, winter workouts, and spring practices. Others have competed in two sports but most of those took place when there were "off-seasons". Today, there are no "off-seasons" and therefore the few who attempt two sports usually give up one of the sports after the first season.
You're just wrong if you think the weight gain plan for an offensive lineman is the same as for a position like linebacker, or even a pass rushing defensive end. Ever wonder why former NFL Olinemen drop about 80 pounds when their career is done? Good weight takes time - fat not so much.
I should have also included Feldman and Carrol in Tier 3.
Once again - my original comment had to do with the weight gain program and plan for different positions. Anyone who thinks the plan for an offensive lineman as opposed to a running back, linebacker, defensive end, etc. is just not understanding how it all works. Bulk versus functional speed weight. Yes, if they wanted to make Kueter a bulky offensive lineman or one of those 300 pounds of ass defensive lineman, then yes I think he could add it all on quickly. I don't think that is the football end game for him.
I’m not sure some understand how difficult it could be to maintain weight when working out as much as BK will be.Yes when he fully committed himself to mass gain and wasn't trying to train and compete at the same time...in two sports.
You're overlooking that he's not going to get much mat time until December/January.
I have a pic of them on the stand, it is hilarious.We are all just happy he didn't pick dads sport 😂😂.The plan has always been for Ben to wrestle at least 5 duals his freshman year. If Coaches need or feel he is ready for that 6th dual (whenever that may happen, IF it happens), Ben told them, I will do whatever you guys need me to do! Obviously, it will be great for Ben to have a year to get bigger, but he is on board with whatever they need. No decisions have been made.
Ben was WAKING UP at 230 right after fall football camp! He usually floats between 4-6 pounds over night so 234 to 236 is a great gain! Football feels he can get to 245 to 250 and not lose his speed. He was clocked at 21 mph in full pads, not bad for a big guy! He did drop a little weight once he got back in the room after fall camp but both programs talked (weight peeps) this week and there is a plan.
Actually, Carroll is up one match on us! We bumped Ben up at Pre-Season nats one year (maybe Ben was around 9) and Christian won
Yeah, Ben was ahead when he pinned Carroll at the duals (maybe on a push out? Can't remember) (DT called him "cradle man" when he saw him at another tourney, Ben loved it). Ben used his length....that time. Carroll got him in a head pinch at Fargo and it was over. Pretty hard to beat Ben on the same move twice. He worked hard on head pinch defense after that. LOL! Ben was looking for the re-match at team trials but unfortunately, Carroll didn't make weight for freestyle (or wasn't able to make it to weigh ins). That being said, I would definitely like to see a folkstyle match between the 2 of them. If it doesn't go his way, he will figure out why for next time.
Ben was 17 years old when it was time to decide which sport to pick, He wasn't ready, he still isn't. We tell Ben all the time, the goal isn't to prove to everyone that you can do both of these sports at a D-1 level. If you can, awesome. If you find you are passionate about one sport over the other, awesome. If it's too much on your body, ok, we can deal with that. We just aren't sure where it will take him yet.
I need to send him over to Coach Phil's and Mama Liz's house with the guys to eat all that good food! (my kids call her Mama Liz because she is amazing, only amazing people get that title)
It was so fun to see him at open wrestling practice a couple weeks ago, working with the team. I just can't wait to see him run out of that tunnel tomorrow! Go Hawks!
