Tell me what you can do in your “free” state that I cant?
Get a permit.
Tell me what you can do in your “free” state that I cant?
Nothing is left out there in a lot of areas so interesting to see how you make something 100x worse. It will be interesting to see how people vote moving forward bases upon this fire, the investigation into the failures, and how they fix the problems so they have a better plan in place to try and minimize loses when something like this happens in the future, because it will to some degree....they'll exacerbate the climate change problems and make things 100x worse
If only someone would have told them where the next catastrophic wildfire would be - someone should have asked all these maga geniuses as clearly they know.Apparently 1301.
Sigh. The optics would be terrible if you didn't fully investigate the failings. Of course you're going to investigate. Even if you understand most of the failings. People want the official ”whys".
Please one of you guys who has got the dry hydrant thing all figured out call Newsom and have him call off his investigation into the failure. Save the taxpayers the expense.
Oh, and LAFD Chief Kristin Crowley said the city failed her department, but what does she know?
Amazing how some people suddenly develop ideas and hindsight.
Especially those with no life sitting at a keyboard and watching Fox News.
I thought the reservoir was empty because they diverted all funds to DEI training.Sigh. The optics would be terrible if you didn't fully investigate the failings. Of course you're going to investigate. Even if you understand most of the failings. People want the official ”whys".
I believe most of the info we've got so far is from the fire department and people that are a involved in the process of fighting the fires... Who would have an idea of how things work.
We've correctly dispelled the initial (stupid) rumors that there wasn't water in the reservoirs because they cared more about smelt fish.
There was one standing house in the Palisades. Made of fire proof materials. Re build all homes the same way . Make the big investment nowYeah.
This inferno is basically impossible to stop with all the vegetation burning and 100 MPH winds.
No amount of fire hoses could stop this, unfortunately.
Silly of me to expect them to be more forthcoming then.Sigh. The optics would be terrible if you didn't fully investigate the failings. Of course you're going to investigate. Even if you understand most of the failings. People want the official ”whys".
I believe most of the info we've got so far is from the fire department and people that are a involved in the process of fighting the fires... Who would have an idea of how things work.
We've correctly dispelled the initial (stupid) rumors that there wasn't water in the reservoirs because they cared more about smelt fish.
Sure Mac. You libs think you take the high ground and your always ready to die on that hill no matter what. Keep making excuses because it’s only going to get worse for ya. Of course the excuses will keep coming. They broke it but will claim they are the ones to fix it and you’ll be right in there sucking from their tit telling us how great things are.Sigh. The optics would be terrible if you didn't fully investigate the failings. Of course you're going to investigate. Even if you understand most of the failings. People want the official ”whys".
I believe most of the info we've got so far is from the fire department and people that are a involved in the process of fighting the fires... Who would have an idea of how things work.
We've correctly dispelled the initial (stupid) rumors that there wasn't water in the reservoirs because they cared more about smelt fish.
nah, he is not a Russian troll like you or one of Ryan’s 69 handles.Be careful, man. That poster is NOT afraid to put people on his ignore list.
And then announce to his fellow libs - sometimes more than once - that you have been ignored.
Psychologically, it can be quite devastating.
Now up to $60 billion.I’ve heard a $50 billion estimate.
No correlation.What does Google say about man made climate change and the rise in the intensity of wildfires?
Nope, there were steps they could have taken to mitigate some of the losses.No, it doesn’t, you absolute hack moron. Nothing was going to make this any better apart from stopping the climate change that likely contributed to this. The same phenomenon a certain side denied for years because their donor/owners told them to.
Almost as much as Hurricane Helene last year, did we build a wall around florida afterwards?Now up to $60 billion.
You can’t deny that there will be many more Californians voting Republican in the future at the local and governor levels.Why?!?! Because climate change created an epic drought during the rainy season, and severe winds spread it? You’re living proof of the dangers of inbreeding. Honestly, you’re the dumbest poster here, and THAT is an accomplishment.
Sure they are.And why is it that people just assume that Republicans would be better at proactive planning and spending on things like infrastructure in order to mitigate some of the fire threat?
Why would Republicans magically be much better at this in California when they arent anywhere else?
If you smelt it, you dealt it. 😉 I noticed you didn’t respond to my comment about the reduced # of fire fighters due to the COViD vax mandates.You retard. Go look up the reservoir levels in SoCal. At or above normal. The smelt controversy in Central CA had nothing to do with dry hydrants experienced at times fighting these fires. That was due to problems keeping water tanks filled properly refreshed during unprecedented times of need. That's an infrastructure problem that had existed for many decades but likely was not tested until this extreme event.
No, cuz impossible to stop a hurricane, whereas impacts of a fire can be mitigated.Almost as much as Hurricane Helene last year, did we build a wall around florida afterwards?
Exactly. Who the **** cares who these pussies put on ignore. 😜One of the most unintentionally hilarious things about HBOT: decreeing to your fellow libs that you have decided to ban a poster.
Fascinating stuff. Riveting, even. 🧐
Droughts don't help reservoirs.Maybe they should have more reservoirs.
This reservoir on the Sacramento River has been planned for decades. What’s taking so long?
The Sites Reservoir — a $4.4 billion system to add dams and store more water to be sent south — is still years away from completion.calmatters.org
You dumbshit. I've explicitly stated that LA very likely didn't have infrastructure or resources to fight a fire like this. And that's been true for a long time in all reality.Sure Mac. You libs think you take the high ground and your always ready to die on that hill no matter what. Keep making excuses because it’s only going to get worse for ya. Of course the excuses will keep coming. They broke it but will claim they are the ones to fix it and you’ll be right in there sucking from their tit telling us how great things are.
Maybe they should have more reservoirs.
This reservoir on the Sacramento River has been planned for decades. What’s taking so long?
The Sites Reservoir — a $4.4 billion system to add dams and store more water to be sent south — is still years away from completion.calmatters.org
Says this guy:You're so easy to manipulate and getting you to spaz out is sheer entertainment.
You are a great deflector…I’ll give you that.Your point? We don't have 1:1 ratios between water tanks and hydrants. Many hydrants to one tank. They could've been dry because the tank was losing pressure due to other fire fighting efforts.
City officials came out and said there was a problem with keeping the tanks replenished. (hence dry hydrants)
It looks like an infrastructure problem for the dry hydrants. I'm sure it has been a big risk for decades. Probably because A) they hadn't had the worst-case-scenario we're seeing now, B) it would be extremely costly to do, C) it would be extremely time consuming and potentially disruptive to city life.
Basically all the same reasons an old bridge is left in place. (until it starts falling apart)
Fire breaks would have had limited effect in this scenario give you had extreme winds raining down embers on houses near the ocean from the hills 100s of feet above them.
They do clear brush and have ordinances surrounding this issue. What evidence do we have that this was a big issue?
But this is what you were dealing with. (see below) Clearing the hills of brush was not a feasible thing to do. LA made a mistake when they allowed people to move out into the hills.
No, you’re here to argue, for argument’s sake.Lol. I don't give a rats ass about him.
I'm here to shoot down maga inspired stupidity
What specific DEI and LGBTQ policies were at play here. I'm still curious how being straight makes you better at fighting fires.
So, you have to be of a specific political persuasion to make a mistake? Good to know. I would recommend all politicians change their party to Republican. Oh shit, I guess Texas is fooooked! Those yee hawers got frozen out due to Republicandecisionspolicy (and greed).
Republicans just have more common sense than Dems. 😉What specific DEI and LGBTQ policies were at play here. I'm still curious how being straight makes you better at fighting fires.
So, you have to be of a specific political persuasion to make a mistake? Good to know. I would recommend all politicians change their party to Republican. Oh shit, I guess Texas is fooooked! Those yee hawers got frozen out due to Republicandecisionspolicy (and greed).
This has already been discussed ad nauseum in this thread.Oh, what would you have done differently if you were running the area? Please, be specific and tell us how each change would have prevented the fires.
Over/Under the police department doesn't get another 7% budget increase while the FD gets a 2% cut?Here's that silly Kristin Crowley again this time on CNN just yammering on and on about the inadequacy of the city's preparedness.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/10/us/v...-department-lafd-wildfires-budget-jake-tapper
Because she is the Chief of the FD.Over/Under the police department doesn't get another 7% budget increase while the FD gets a 2% cut?
Oh crap, never mind. All the money went to DEI training NOT the police department. Oh, and why are you listening to a DEI hire? ...only when it's convenient?
Me? Of course not.Because she is the Chief of the FD.
Do you think she is full of shit? Is making all of this up? The documents she displayed are fake?
Especially if there have been no new reservoirs built by the state in 40 years.Droughts don't help reservoirs.
What does this have to do with drought?Especially if there have been no new reservoirs built by the state in 40 years.
The Chief was interviewed about her stance on DEI (before the fire) and her position was - for real
- when your house is on fire and you see a first responder show up who looks like you it’s comforting, so DEI is important.
If my house is on fire I just want folks who show up and bring a hose that sprays water on the fire. I don’t care who they look like.
With her nails on the chalk board voice?She'd demolish you, Ryan
Lol, I have not made the claim that she is a DEI hire. So YOU weren't close at all.Me? Of course not.
However, we've been told by your constituents that she's incompetent and only hired due to who she sleeps with and should have never been hired. If that's true, then nothing she says should be trusted, right? These fires are 100% due to funds diverted to woke initiatives like DEI training and an LGBTQ fire chief hire. Heck, y'all have been so adamant about it, I was almost convinced.