In terms of violence the George Floyd riots were much more deadly and violent and costly than anything that happened on Jan 6th. Stop trying to compare broken windows with 2 billion in damages.
Lt. Byrd (since promoted to Captain), claimed he was being shot at; Doctor tending to Ashli Babbit was shoved aside by Capital Police, and other ...
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Don’t know. The cops had been battling armed rioters for quite a while when she got shot. Reasonable to conclude she was, but doesn’t matter to me if she was or wasn’t.
She wasn't. So there's that.
And it does matter. Cops can't shoot an unarmed person on one street corner because another person a block down is swinging around a stick.
And would you have proposed that in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis and DC in 2020? You know, when rioters were actually armed, throwing things or setting things on fire (with people inside)?
Ummm, she was unarmed.
And it is 100% the same. A person that has sworn an oath to protect the citizens, killed another person that was unarmed.
George was passing counterfeit money, high on drugs and resisted arrest. Ashli was illegally trespassing on government property. Both died at the hand of someone swarn to protect them. Both were breaking the law.
He never knows when to support or not support Trump. It’s quite funny actually.
Sure. Totally the same situation. 🙄
Very possibly. I’m not a big fan of rioting in general.
But obviously the Capitol building is a different situation. The center of government, full of members of Congress and the VP. Different than a government building in Portland.
If you want to equate Derek Chauvin/George Floyd and what happened on Jan 6, have at it. I’m not going to try to convince you otherwise.
I am always amazed at all the non-Trump supporters who dive into threads to white knight the rioters and minimize what happened that day.
Replay the shooting...it’s all on film!
The mob (Ashli was part of) was trying to break down the locked door and they kept pushing as they were told to “back off”..,
The officer who shot get had hid gun drawn and pointe door at the mob..he warned the mob several times to cease and desist.....Ashli stormed the door and was shot...the officer legitimately “feared for his safety” ( and that is a legit defense in such cases as this)...
Ashli was somewhere she shouldn’t have been. She was given ample opportunity to back down, but did not. She was swept up in the action if the mob. When dealing with a mob, howvdoes one know who is and who is not “unarmed.” BTW...Ashli was NOT the only person who was injured...Ashli made several bad choices that day. Her death is a shame...but her actions were shameful, too.
Everyone's life matters, Formerly.
Based on my review of numerous videos that day I would have been more comfortable with the use of deadly force in other situations that occurred that day.
Like I've said before, I have questions about the Babbit death that remain unanswered.
Unlike Formerly, who asserts that we shouldn't ask questions, I believe that when a citizen is killed by the state, we are duty bound to ask questions and fully and impartially vet the incident.
Deep down, most of them know it was indefensible, they are just so consumed with team sports politics that they reflexively defend it.
And it would be so easy to reject that wing of the party. But they either are all in on Trump or they simply don’t want to risk the MAGA votes.
You need to watch the tapes then...she was acting in an unsafe manner and she and the mob were warned! Then she got shot. The fact you may wNt to ask is what was Ashli and her friends doing in that hallway trying to break down that secure and GUARDED door?The answer is right there in front of you Northern..
Now if someone points a gun at me and tells me to “cease and desist”...I probably would back off. Ashli dove ahead....and got shot. Bad choice. It wasn’t like someone stood on her neck and refused to get off as she begged for her life....
She was wearing a backpack; none of the officers had any idea what she had in it as she was breaking in to the secured area.
Any reasonable person would have blown her head off to prevent her from potentially attacking Congressional Senators and Representatives.
That's because you're a MAGAt. Anyone else who watched the videos of that day doesn't care that she was shot when attempting to enter a secured area.
And EVERY ONE of the idiots attempting to enter that door walked away after they saw her take one in the face.
I didn't say that. Stop putting words in my posts. I said you wished for the death of someone and some people at the hands of police officers. I let you know that that isn't cool.
I doubt you will take the time to watch it. I hope you do, but this might help explain what was going on behind the scenes that day.
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And i said you were comparing Floyd and Babbitt. I don’t know where I would’ve gotten that idea.
George was passing counterfeit money, high on drugs and resisted arrest. Ashli was illegally trespassing on government property. Both died at the hand of someone swarn to protect them. Both were breaking the law.
Where someone is violently breaking in to a secured area during an insurrection?
Absolutely.
The totality of the posts in this thread. You're "plausible deniability" act no longer works. We know who you are.
You defend all things Trump and MAGA, all the time. But you often couch it in ways that allow you to "plausibly deny" that you are defending it.
However, the 100% consistency with which you will post in these threads deflecting and "just asking questions" is comical in its transparency.
We know who you are. You are a MAGAT 100%. You voted for him in the past, you will vote for him again. And if he loses, you will "have questions" about the fairness of the election.
Just because you cause a network to lose $1 Billion based on your lies doesn't mean you aren't a fair and balanced journalist and a credible source of information.
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I love the length OP and his sources go to gaslight the thinking public into not believing our own eyes. We literally watched it live. She deserved what she got. And so did dozens of others.
Questions he almost certainly didn’t have about the Jan 6 committee’s work
