The purpose of the University of Iowa is to allow Iowa kids the opportunity to attend the University, not to achieve some hypothetical rating from a questionable journal like US News and World Report. Iowa needs to allow more kids with special abilities like football and basketball that contribute to the University to attend even if their high school grades are slightly below average.
Nebraska needs to leave the Big 10
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Respectfully disagree. It's the time of year when some are ready for " football talk". Whether i agree with topic or not
sometimes it's fun to just "spitball" about what if.
Athletically, sure, right now. But the potential is there. Academically, they're better than Nebraska, aren't they?
Yep! They're a selective school now. Applications for enrollment are down 20%. I wonder why?
Maryland and Nebraska are northern schools, like the rest of the Big Ten. Missouri is not a northern school historically. Fwiw
Ha Ha, Iowa has been 'dead weight' since I started watching sports in the 60s, in every sport but wrestling, and they have been allowed to stay, so I doubt Nebraska is going anywhere, and will be in your heads for the foreseeable future.
And yet you care enough to post on this board. Iowa wins in football, basketball and wrestling. Maybe next year you'll win one but probably not with that group of mediocre head coaches.
Lifelong Nebraska fan here. Had hard time adjusting to Big Ten. Always watched Big 12 if we weren't playing. Then the other night I realized I watched nothing but Big Ten games in last year. I think I watched 7 or 8 Iowa games and never saw KU play until tourney.
Pretty happy today to a part of Big Ten.
Pretty happy today to a part of Big Ten.
Nebraska and Missouri have similar academic rankings.
USNWR: Neb and Missouri tied with many at 103
THE world rankings: Nebraska 301-350, Missouri 351-400
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/-1
CWUR: Missouri 194, Nebraska 314
http://cwur.org/2015/
Shanghai world rankings: Both in 78-104 range
http://www.shanghairanking.com/World-University-Rankings-2014/USA.html
MUP research overall rankings: Nebraska 82, Missouri 85
http://mup.asu.edu/Top-American-Research-Universities-2014-Annual-Report-MUP.pdf
I can't help but to post too. This is a stupid thread, dump the Huskers? Iowa has a good season and now its above all. Have you seen the momentum the Huskers have gotten recruiting wise and its about to pick up even more adding a WR like Keshawn Johnson Jr, that name alone is going to sell the Husker name more then you guys will want to admitt. I for one cant wait for next year when the Huskers start shutting some of you mindless fans up. One bad season since Callahan and Iowa thinks they have a right to boot the Huskers, wow. Im back to the big headed Husker board... Wait we are big headed and Iowa fans arent? I don't think i ever seen on the Husker board about kicking any good power team out of a conference from ONE down season. At least keep your guys heads on and don't let them float away on yea. Next season is around the corner and i want to see how you guys act if you pull a 7-6 or 6-7 record, should we then kick Iowa out. Sorry but this is a stupid post. Take away kicking the Huskers out and just simply have who ELSE should we add to the conference? And there you go. Only Iowa fans, my God.
I wouldn't really take the post too seriously. If teams were removed for poor seasons, Iowa would still be in Division II after Ferentz's 1-10 stinker '99 season.
Edit: Fact is...Iowa was a good team in '15, and with a team with very little depth at key positions, and a QB that was intent on giving the game away, Riley still had Nebraska in a position to win against a pretty salty Iowa team.
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Woulda, coulda, shoulda...the bar has really been lowered in Lincoln. Fortunately for UNL you now have the right head coach to keep the bar low.
Pffft.. Ferentz had trouble beating Blow Pelini, and struggled to beat Riley in his first year, with depleted LB personnel and 4 turnovers. I'm very confident that Riley will win his fair share against Ferentz.
I don't think the Big 10 has ever kicked anyone out of the league. Even when Northwestern was pretty uncompetitive in both basketball and football and talk was they should leave the Big 10, nothing was done. If anything I look for the Big 10 to pickup 2 more teams.
Clearly the OP hasn't seen the ball since the kickoff I welcome our friends from the west.
Cut the academic/scholastic BS. If you seriously think that is the primary reason for adding a team to ANY conference, you're delusional.
I see plenty of Iowa/Iowa State/Oklahoma/Etc Football/Basketball/Etc team apparel being worn representing a specific university. Show me a piece of apparel proclaimimg Iowa/Iowa State/Oklahoma/Etc Academics. You may see apparel with a certain department, but nothing touting academics in general.
How can you be confidenct that Riley will win his fair share when you couldn't possibly be confident Riley will be around long enough to win his fair share.
You guys fired a coach for getting you to the national championship and losing to the most talented team in college football history. Then you fired a 10 win coach to hire a 6 win coach. Yet you think he's going to be around long enough to win his fair share.
Um...how about the simple fact that Riley is a much better coach than Bo Pelini? Do you guys even take the incredibly brief amount of time to think through questions before you ask them?
Is Ferentz a completely different coach than he was when he went 1-10? No, he's not. He just didn't have the players in that he needed for his system. He also didn't have his S&C coaches in place, and players weren't familiar with his offensive and defense systems. Riley is in the exact same position.
So How did Ferentz go from 1-10 to winning the B1G? Did he change his stripes....or did he just get better players?
To compare a young Ferentz to a now 62-63 yr. old Riley is rather stupid. Ferentz was basically just starting his coaching career at a D-1 school learning and developing his credentials. Riley is an experience D-1 coach with his credentials already developed. Granted not the greatest credentials but he is what he is. It is also unfair to compare the shape of the Iowa football program when Ferentz took over compared to what Riley had when he took over at Nebraska. Iowa was on a downward trend under the last few yrs. of Fry. Riley took over a winning program and turned it into mush. He set records for loosing going back before Delaney was coaching there. It wasn't a matter for Ferentz to get better players, because he has never gotten 4-5 star players anymore than Fry did, but to develop his coaching style and his coaching smarts. It's a little late for Riley to do that. And by the way he had the good players and still made a mess of it.
That post has so much wrong with it I don't know where to begin. But I'll Try.
1. Overall college records compared: KF 127-87 (59%) MR 99-87 (53%)
2. Age of each coach: KF - going to be 61 in August MR - going to be 63 in July.
3. KF's first year at Iowa 1-10 MR 1st year at Nebraska 6-7.
4. KF took over a team who went 3-8 the pervious year and was trending downward and it took years to become average at best. MR took over a team who went 9-3 and had underlying issues with its coaching and recruiting. I would say the dumpster fire was started at Nebraska and put out before it became raging. We have yet to see what MR will do, but so far he has done the right things to win many games at Nebraska.
5. MR had good players at some positions (but not great overall), and he changed the system after being hired late. It took him about half the season to get every player going in the direction MR and his staff wanted them to be in.
I would say both coaches are comparable with an edge to MR and Nebraska going forward. Well see. That's why they play the games.
So wrong in so many ways. Talk experience, Ferentz was learning, Riley has over 30 yrs. coaching experience, Ferentz took over a down program at 3-8, Riley a 9-3 program that went to a bowl, Nebraska fired the dumpster fire not the good players, Ferentz took over a poor program with several yrs. of bad recruiting and made it better, Riley took over a good program with good recruiting and made it bad, Nebraska and Wisconsin were suppose to fight for the Western championship, instead Nebraska was fighting to stay a head of Minnesota plus got beat by the great Purdue team. And finally Riley took the Husker job because the natives where restless at Oregon State where Riley was in fear for his job.
What could you possibly base Riley being a better coach than Pelini on?
When KF showed up in 1999, Iowa was coming off of a 3 win season and a 7 win season before that. When Riley showed up Bo was coming off a 9 win season and a 10 win season before that. Yet that's the same to you.
Riley can get all the better players he wants. It won't matter. You're fragile fan base will not be impressed with another 6 win season and he will be gone. Then you guys will probably replace him with Bo Pelini. It would make sense seeming how you are paying him almost 3 million a year for the next 3 years. No doubt you have top shelf management their in Lincoln. At least the kids are getting away with rape and that's whats really important in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Riley is no Pelini. I'd be very surprised if you guys didn't send him down the road before he beats Ferentz.
Now there's an informed football fan. I'd change my name to "Husker_fan321" if I were him.
It must really hurt that you have a losing record against us.
Not at all. I don't live my life off of Iowa football. Can you say the same? We all know you can't. It's why Riley will be fired in a year or two. Because life sucks in Nebraska and it's why you guys are so tied to the football program. You think if they succeed it somehow means your life isn't as bad as you thought.
When was the last time Nebraska didn't have a good recruiting class. It's like Michigan. They always get good players, its just can you find a coach that can do anything with them. Anyone really think Mike Riley is that guy?
Same Husker douches that are spouting off about his greatness on this board are probably on their own board crying that they deserve Knute Rockne over Riley.
I know they usually get good recruiting classes, but I was just pointing out their 2017 class has some good recruits and they have gotten into California. I pay attention to recruiting in the Big Ten West because it directly impacts Iowa. It's good for the division/conference that both Iowa and Nebraska are recruiting at a high level, although I wish Iowa would've gotten McQuitty. I am by no means a Husker fan.
I really hate this thread. Nebraska was a great addition for the football brand alone. I love hating on those people in season, but they have a good school that will only get better in the Big Ten. And it will be great for both schools if that becomes a legit football rivalry (it's currently slated as a rivalry-weekend game, so let's both hold up our end and make it a great rivalry). And, if the super-conference stuff happens and we need 2 more, we won't miss out on all of our top 3. UT-A (on the terms that we won't put up with their "we're more special" shit), UNC, and UVA. I'd prefer UNC and UVA as a combo to any part of UT-A as a fan. Get more of the original Big Ten back in the west for football. I want no part of Notre Dame. I want that institution to crumble. It's not that I hate Catholics. I was raised Catholic and I love Catholics. I hate those Catholics. I was born in Omaha and I hate Nebraska. But they're more preferable in the fold.
Anxious to hear about this cultural Mecca of
Iowa and what it offers different from Nebraska. The fact is that many of your graduates are leaving the state of Iowa to find gainful employment in either, Minneapolis, Chicago, or Omaha.
Are we supposed to include the entirety of both states or are we to exclude the parts of Nebraska that are west of Lincoln?
Edit: It matters. Omaha is great. Lincoln is boring (much more boring than DSM and IC) but not bad. Never been to Kearney. Been to Norfolk (better than Lincoln).
