the next 2 weekends are gonna decide a lot.
hopefully the 12 team field becomes more clear & obvious.
Neither Current #8 SMU, #10 Boise State nor #15 Arizona State (or #16 Iowa State) should be getting a 1st Round Bye in the CFP
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the next 2 weekends are gonna decide a lot.
hopefully the 12 team field becomes more clear & obvious.
Not sure if that would happen anytime soon.
Expanding to 14 teams has been proposed when the new CFP contract takes effect in 2026.
When the SEC and Big Ten first floated the 14-team proposal, they wanted 4 automatic bids each.
College football season's continuing drama should quash talk of 14-team playoff
What’s better for the sport: Watching to see whether a team can earn its way to the 12-team CFP or relying on conference quotas?
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Yes just like in every other football conference in the world - you win your division to move on. The idea that pollsters will perfectly pick the "best teams" is asinine, and we only insist on doing it for (what used to be called D1) college football. Not any other sport. It's a stupid argument. Not saying that you're stupid. The argument is just stupid.
I'd argue that saying things like "quality teams" is almost a non-sequitur. What does that mean? They have the best 3-4 loss teams in the country? There isn't any way to quantify this. Which is why relying on polling for the playoffs is goofy AF. Edit to say that yes, I understand that we're never doing an 8 team playoff. It's just dumb though lol.
there might be just 3 really good teams, where we will find out for sure in the quarter finals
Are the Clowns 2 wins away from a CFP invite? That would put them at 11-2 and the Big 12 Champions.
I think the SEC should be forbidden from being qualified for the Playoffs until they stop playing 4 cream puffs every year.
Alabama vs Mercer in Week 12?? come the f*** on
how a team is playing late in the season is a factor and the fact that we have games like this ... this late in the season.. is absolute bullsh*t
a one loss SEC team should be eliminated from the conversation.
Alabama vs Mercer in Week 12?? come the f*** on
how a team is playing late in the season is a factor and the fact that we have games like this ... this late in the season.. is absolute bullsh*t
a one loss SEC team should be eliminated from the conversation.
When you have playoffs consisting of 24 teams, 28 teams, 40 teams, and 14 of 32 teams (44%) you absolutely take the conference/division winners. It’s a no brainer. Not when 9% of 134 teams over nine conferences, plus independents make the playoffs. That would be ridiculously stupid, which is why FBS CFB isn’t doing it that way with the current set up.
Playing cream puffs every year would eliminate everybody from the playoffs.
Sagarin ratings:
NIU (ND-L) 104
Troy (Iowa) 108
Arkansas St (ISU) 110
Illinois St (Iowa) 114
Purdue (B1G) 115
Idaho (Oregon) 117
Mercer (Bama) 126
Charlotte (Indiana) 131
North Dakota (ISU) 135
Western Michigan (OSU) 137
FIU (Indiana) 136
Akron (OSU) 155
Western ILL (Indiana) 221
Kent St (PSU) 225
Almost every playoff bound team plays a cupcake or two. If you eliminated Alabama for doing it, you’d have to eliminate just about everyone who is in contention too. All of Indiana’s non conf opponents were worse than Mercer.
I agree that the winners of most conferences aren't deserving outside of the P4 but I still think you have to include the winners for those two supposed power conferences. Really, for the sake of competitive balance even if it is just an illusion of a level playing field, it's just a last hoorah to the old system we used to have. In the next five years, only teams from the B1G or SEC will ever be in it. Will the B12 or ACC even exist anymore by 2030. To get in at that point, those teams currently in any other conference will have to play in one of the big two to get in.
It'll work itself out and I agree with you. The ACC and B12 champs aren't technically deserving on merit but as long as they're considered a "P4" conference, as dumb as even saying that is, they should.
Who will play in the Big 12 Championship?
With Arizona State, Iowa State, BYU and Colorado all tied at 6-2, let's take a look at the scenarios most likely to come into play.
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With Arizona State, Iowa State, BYU and Colorado all tied at 6-2, let's take a look at the scenarios most likely to come into play.
- If all four win, the title game will be ASU vs. Iowa State.
- In a three-team tie between ASU, ISU and BYU, BYU is out.
- In a three-team tie between ISU, BYU and Colorado, Colorado is out.
- In a three-team tie between ASU, BYU and Colorado, Colorado is out.
- If Texas Tech defeats West Virginia, then it's Colorado vs. Arizona State
- If Texas Tech defeats West Virginia, Baylor beats Kansas and Cincinnati beats TCU, then it's Colorado vs. Iowa State
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Ole Miss (8-3) is the 3rd team OUT of the CFP.
Lane Kiffin takes a shot at the ACC and Big 12 over the College Football Playoff rankings:
“It’s ridiculous, the difference of playing in the SEC and the ACC and Big 12… To think that you’re looking at schools and you’re talking about, like, Clemson’s schedule and who they played over Alabama. It’s stupid. I’m not gonna name them. Take some of those teams that are up there that haven’t played anybody and put them down in the SEC, they’re .500 teams.”
1. Oregon (11-0)............1st Round Bye
2. Ohio State (10-1)
3. Texas (10-1)...............1st Round Bye
4. Penn State (10-1)
5. Notre Dame (10-1)
6. Miami (10-1)...............1st Round Bye
7. Georgia (9-2)
8. Tennessee (9-2)
9. SMU (10-1)
10. Indiana (10-1)
11. Boise State (10-1)........1st Round Bye
12. Clemson (9-2)
13. Alabama (8-3)
14. Ole Miss (8-3)
15. South Carolina (8-3)
16. Arizona State (9-2)
Lane Kiffin takes a shot at the ACC and Big 12 over the College Football Playoff rankings:
“It’s ridiculous, the difference of playing in the SEC and the ACC and Big 12… To think that you’re looking at schools and you’re talking about, like, Clemson’s schedule and who they played over Alabama. It’s stupid. I’m not gonna name them. Take some of those teams that are up there that haven’t played anybody and put them down in the SEC, they’re .500 teams.”
CFP Top 25:
(Teams in BOLD would make the 12 team field)1. Oregon (11-0)............1st Round Bye
2. Ohio State (10-1)
3. Texas (10-1)...............1st Round Bye
4. Penn State (10-1)
5. Notre Dame (10-1)
6. Miami (10-1)...............1st Round Bye
7. Georgia (9-2)
8. Tennessee (9-2)
9. SMU (10-1)
10. Indiana (10-1)
11. Boise State (10-1)........1st Round Bye
12. Clemson (9-2)
13. Alabama (8-3)
14. Ole Miss (8-3)
15. South Carolina (8-3)
16. Arizona State (9-2)
You're complaining about something that doesn't concern you. I'm not complaining at all. You get it now?
Damn it.
Results from yesterday:
#17 Tulane (now 9-3) lost to Memphis (now 10-2), 34-24.
In 8 (!!!) OVERTIMES, #7 Georgia (now 10-2) survives & beats Georgia Tech (now 7-5), 44-42
#11 Boise State (now 11-1) beat Oregon State (now 5-7), 34-18.
#14 Ole Miss (now 9-3) beat Miss State (now 2-10), 26-14.
#25 Colorado (now 9-3) beat OK State (now 3-9), 52-0.
All #6 Miami had to do was beat Syracuse to advance to the ACC title game. Instead, they lost 42-38. As a result, Clemson backed into the ACC title game to face SMU.
The Canes will have to hope for an at-large bid into the 12-team CFP.
The Canes will have to hope for an at-large bid into the 12-team CFP.
Big 12 conference should not get an auto bye.
What a dog sh*t conference
What a dog sh*t conference
#16 Arizona State blows out rival Arizona 49-7 and secures spot in Big 12 Championship Game
TUCSON, Ariz. -- — Injuries and losses filled Arizona State's first season under coach Kenny Dillingham, capped by a disheartening setback to rival Arizona at home a year ago.
Little was expected of the Sun Devils again this year, pegged to finish last in their first season in the Big 12.
Boy, did they prove everyone wrong.
Cam Skattebo ran for 177 yards and three touchdowns, Sam Leavitt threw for three scores and No. 14 Arizona State secured a spot in the Big 12 championship game with a 49-7 blowout of rival Arizona on Saturday.
“Our guys played their best game of football on the most important game of the year and it was great to see,” Dillingham said.
The Sun Devils (10-2, 7-2 Big 12, No. 16 CFP) needed a win and a little help to get into next Saturday's conference title game.
Arizona State left no doubt about the winning part.
The Sun Devils led 35-0 at halftime behind three touchdown runs by Skattebo and barely let off the gas in the second half. Leavitt threw for 291 yards on 17-of-22 passing and Arizona State had 643 total yards a year after losing 59-23 to Arizona.
After a short wait, the Sun Devils locked up a trip to Arlington, Texas, next weekend with Cincinnati's 20-13 loss to TCU. Arizona State's opponent was to be determined later Saturday night.
“It was great to go out there and put it on them, especially after what they did to us last year,” Leavitt said. “It just makes the next one even bigger.”
Arizona's Tetairoa McMillan had six catches for 68 yards and a touchdown in what will likely be his final game before heading to the NFL. The Wildcats (4-8, 2-7) did little else on either side of the ball to close out a difficult first season under coach Brent Brennan.
“They got after us in every way today,” Brennan said. “With what this game means to everyone here, everyone in this town and this state, for us to be so unproductive is soul-crushing.”
Embarrassed in the last Territorial Cup game, the Sun Devils were determined to exact revenge in the most dominant way possible.
Mission accomplished.
Arizona State ran past, through and around the Wildcats, starting with a pair of 2-yard touchdown runs by Skattebo. Jordyn Tyson turned a screen pass into a 13-yard touchdown and Skattebo made it 28-0 with a 3-yard TD run.
Arizona State closed out the half by stopping Arizona on downs and quickly marched down the field for a 22-yard touchdown pass from Leavitt to Chamon Metayer.
“They out-executed us in all phases,” Arizona defensive lineman Tre Smith said. “That's what it comes down to.”
Bourguet's impact
Trenton Bourguet has been one of Arizona State's emotional leaders despite serving as Leavitt's backup this season.
With the game out of reach, Dillingham made sure the former starting quarterback got a chance to go out with a flourish.
Bourguet made the most of it, completing a 7-yard pass to his brother, Coben, and then a 64-yard touchdown to Derek Eusebio early in the fourth quarter.
The takeaway
Arizona State: With redemption and a possible Big 12 title spot within reach, the Sun Devils snatched both with a dominant performance.
Arizona: The Wildcats' season started with high expectations and ended with a thud. Arizona lost seven of its final eight games and closed it out with a loss nearly as disheartening as the 70-7 home thumping by Arizona State four years ago.
Up next
Arizona State: Will play in a bowl game, potentially in the College Football Playoff if things fall right.
Arizona: The Wildcats are not bowl eligible after ending a five-year bowl-less streak a year ago. Arizona will likely lose McMillan, Fifita and cornerback Tacario Davis, but should have plenty of other players back next season.
Arizona State 49-7 Arizona (Nov 30, 2024) Game Recap - ESPN
Expert recap and game analysis of the Arizona State Sun Devils vs. Arizona Wildcats NCAAF game from November 30, 2024 on ESPN.
ASU lost their star WR in the 3rd quarter. Guy is a future 1st rounder and was playing as well as any WR in the nation lately. They have no depth at WR either. ISU catching a big break with that part.
Not so fast. If Houston wins Colorado goes instead of Iowa state
It's an absolute joke. Decide seeding and byes based on how good the teams are. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament.
Pretty sure they don't automatically give #1 seeds to each conference winner.
ASU’s got a very good QB many on here haven’t probably watched. First round talent. Just a FR. He was actually recruited by some schools as a linebacker. Tough, clutch kid. They are 10-1 with him. Skattebo is one of the most bad*** Rb’s in the nation.
ASU has NO WR’s outside of Tyson, who got hurt though.
This story was from the Associated Press:
Big 12 Championship in Arlington, Texas
Arizona State vs. Iowa State if both win this week.
Kansas State (8-3) is at Clown U (9-2)
Arizona State (9-2) is at Arizona (4-7)
Multiple scenarios including BYU, Colorado and other teams exist otherwise.
A four-way tie at 7-2 between Arizona State, BYU, Colorado and Iowa State would result in #1 Arizona State vs #2 Iowa State.
Current Big 12 Standings
| Team | CONF | OVR |
|---|---|---|
| Arizona State | 6-2 | 9-2 |
| BYU | 6-2 | 9-2 |
| Iowa State | 6-2 | 9-2 |
| Colorado | 6-2 | 8-3 |
Final regular-season games loom large in determining conference championship matchups
The American Athletic Conference is the only Football Bowl Subdivision league whose championship game matchup is set. That's Army vs. Tulane at a site to be determined.
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Read closer - that’s only if there’s a four way tie. There won’t be a four way tie if BYU losesThis story was from the Associated Press:
Big 12 Championship in Arlington, Texas
Arizona State vs. Iowa State if both win this week.
Kansas State (8-3) is at Clown U (9-2)
Arizona State (9-2) is at Arizona (4-7)
Multiple scenarios including BYU, Colorado and other teams exist otherwise.
A four-way tie at 7-2 between Arizona State, BYU, Colorado and Iowa State would result in #1 Arizona State vs #2 Iowa State.
Current Big 12 Standings
Team CONF OVR Arizona State 6-2 9-2 BYU 6-2 9-2 Iowa State 6-2 9-2 Colorado 6-2 8-3
Final regular-season games loom large in determining conference championship matchups
The American Athletic Conference is the only Football Bowl Subdivision league whose championship game matchup is set. That's Army vs. Tulane at a site to be determined.
Big 12 Championship in Arlington, Texas
Arizona State vs Iowa State
Will the winner get a 1st round bye?
Arizona State vs Iowa State
Will the winner get a 1st round bye?
