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Question on Nelson and didn’t want to create another thread, does anyone know if he will enroll next year or defer enrollment? It seems like he might be best served to train with the HWC and not start his clock right away. This would put another year between him and Kem/Marinelli so he doesn’t lose a year on the bench.
 
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Question on Nelson and didn’t want to create another thread, does anyone know if he will enroll next year or defer enrollment? It seems like he might be best served to train with the HWC and not start his clock right away. This would put another year between him and Kem/Marinelli so he doesn’t lose a year on the bench.
I like that idea, it would give us leeway with recruiting at 157/165 through 2024.
 
Question on Nelson and didn’t want to create another thread, does anyone know if he will enroll next year or defer enrollment? It seems like he might be best served to train with the HWC and not start his clock right away. This would put another year between him and Kem/Marinelli so he doesn’t lose a year on the bench.

I like the way you are thinking. With that said, that is really asking a lot of a kid. Literally putting his life on hold for a year. I dont mean his wrestling life, but his graduation, his first year of employment etc.

As I have no idea what Nelsons goals are in wrestling or life in general, its hard for me to say what he wants. I know he started wrestling late in life compared to most big time D1 recruits and from the development side it could make great sense. He hasn't done much freestyle wrestling to the best of my knowledge, and maybe that will come, but does he have post grad wrestling goals? Yet another reason why delaying a year and developing could be good.

Okay I now have more questions then answers.

GO HAWKS!!
 
I agree with this. I had a similar thought during FRL's breakdown (and Flo's previous breakdown article by Nomad) on Penn State's lineup. They just assumed a bunch of guys would RS, but the modern trend seems to be away from that. Something that I hope the Brands' are noticing.
 
I like the way you are thinking. With that said, that is really asking a lot of a kid. Literally putting his life on hold for a year. I dont mean his wrestling life, but his graduation, his first year of employment etc.

As I have no idea what Nelsons goals are in wrestling or life in general, its hard for me to say what he wants. I know he started wrestling late in life compared to most big time D1 recruits and from the development side it could make great sense. He hasn't done much freestyle wrestling to the best of my knowledge, and maybe that will come, but does he have post grad wrestling goals? Yet another reason why delaying a year and developing could be good.

Okay I now have more questions then answers.

GO HAWKS!!
While I agree, pushing your graduation date out would suck (I did it, but because I was dumb), but it may not be that big of a deal for him, if he doesn't want it to be.

Minimum credits to be considered full-time: 12

He takes 11 hours, both fall and spring semester, does a class or two the following summer, then when he actually starts his "clock" he'd only be behind by a few hours.

Also, he doesn't have to be here all 5 years if he doesn't want to. He could probably still graduate in 4...
 
While I agree, pushing your graduation date out would suck (I did it, but because I was dumb), but it may not be that big of a deal for him, if he doesn't want it to be.

Minimum credits to be considered full-time: 12

He takes 11 hours, both fall and spring semester, does a class or two the following summer, then when he actually starts his "clock" he'd only be behind by a few hours.

Also, he doesn't have to be here all 5 years if he doesn't want to. He could probably still graduate in 4...
Leave it to a statistician to propose that.
 
While I agree, pushing your graduation date out would suck (I did it, but because I was dumb), but it may not be that big of a deal for him, if he doesn't want it to be.

Minimum credits to be considered full-time: 12

He takes 11 hours, both fall and spring semester, does a class or two the following summer, then when he actually starts his "clock" he'd only be behind by a few hours.

Also, he doesn't have to be here all 5 years if he doesn't want to. He could probably still graduate in 4...

It's true that taking 12 credit hours is considered full time for the purposes of financial aid and assessing tuition, but you won't graduate in four years taking 12 hours a semester (120 sh minimum required at UI for a bachelor's degree). A true, finish-in-four-years schedule would have you averaging 15 hours per semester for eight semesters. Taking 22 sh your first year would make it impossible, unless you maxed out summer classes (12sh maximum each summer session).

It would also mean taking your lightest class load precisely at the time when you should be going hard in the classroom, without the don't wrestling obligations of travel etc. demanding a huge chunk of your time.
 
It's true that taking 12 credit hours is considered full time for the purposes of financial aid and assessing tuition, but you won't graduate in four years taking 12 hours a semester (120 sh minimum required at UI for a bachelor's degree). A true, finish-in-four-years schedule would have you averaging 15 hours per semester for eight semesters. Taking 22 sh your first year would make it impossible, unless you maxed out summer classes (12sh maximum each summer session).

It would also mean taking your lightest class load precisely at the time when you should be going hard in the classroom, without the don't wrestling obligations of travel etc. demanding a huge chunk of your time.
My quick math takeaway from this is if you need to average 30 hrs per year to graduate in 4 but only get 22 the 1st year then there is only 8hrs to make up. If you take the 15hrs for each semester after the 1st year then the 8 can be made up in 1 or several summers
 
Question on Nelson and didn’t want to create another thread, does anyone know if he will enroll next year or defer enrollment? It seems like he might be best served to train with the HWC and not start his clock right away. This would put another year between him and Kem/Marinelli so he doesn’t lose a year on the bench.
Will he be good enough to start for 4 years is the question
 
Will he be good enough to start for 4 years is the question
2017-18: HS Senior (157: Kemerer - so; 165: Marinelli - fr; 174: Young - fr)
2018-19: OTC/gray shirt (157: Kemerer - jr; 165: Marinelli - so; 174: Young - so)
2019-20: True Freshman (157: Kemerer - sr; 165: Marinelli - jr; 174: Young - jr)
2020-21: RS Freshman (157: Brands - fr; 165: Marinelli - sr; 174: Young - sr)
2021-22: Soph (157 or 165: Brands - so)
2022-23: Jr (157 or 165: Brands - jr)
2023-24: Sr (157 or 165 or 174: Brands - sr)

He could potentially be a 4-year starter if he gray shirts and can make 157 for at least his RSF year.
 
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While I agree, pushing your graduation date out would suck (I did it, but because I was dumb), but it may not be that big of a deal for him, if he doesn't want it to be.

Minimum credits to be considered full-time: 12

He takes 11 hours, both fall and spring semester, does a class or two the following summer, then when he actually starts his "clock" he'd only be behind by a few hours.

Also, he doesn't have to be here all 5 years if he doesn't want to. He could probably still graduate in 4...

Also, any kid entering college these days should stick around for a Masters Degree. A Bachelor degree in today's world isn't worth much other than to keep you from being eliminated from 90% of jobs. So you should figure on six years of college before really starting your adult life.
 
Also, any kid entering college these days should stick around for a Masters Degree. A Bachelor degree in today's world isn't worth much other than to keep you from being eliminated from 90% of jobs. So you should figure on six years of college before really starting your adult life.
I did not know that. I do know people who have gotten a Masters degree and employers looked at them like, why should I hire you and pay you more when you don't have any more real life experience that a person with a bachelor's degree or no degree at all.
 
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Also, any kid entering college these days should stick around for a Masters Degree. A Bachelor degree in today's world isn't worth much other than to keep you from being eliminated from 90% of jobs. So you should figure on six years of college before really starting your adult life.

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Of course I'm serious. Our kids are going straight to graduate school.
 
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Also, any kid entering college these days should stick around for a Masters Degree. A Bachelor degree in today's world isn't worth much other than to keep you from being eliminated from 90% of jobs. So you should figure on six years of college before really starting your adult life.
I did not know that. I do know people who have gotten a Masters degree and employers looked at them like, why should I hire you and pay you more when you don't have any more real life experience that a person with a bachelor's degree or no degree at all.

Then I'd say you have very little experience in the business world. A masters degree isn't intended to get you a higher paying job out of the box. But five or ten years down the road there are tons of higher paying jobs only available to people with advanced degrees.

This is a pretty well understood fact.
 
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I don't know about the wrestlers but the Football players are required to take 15-16 cr per semester minimum & Summer school does not count towards their athletic load. Not sure if that is an athletic department rule or a football rule. (Yeah, I know, let the jokes begin but I knew a very bright football player 4-5 yrs ago that shared this with me).
 
I don't know about the wrestlers but the Football players are required to take 15-16 cr per semester minimum & Summer school does not count towards their athletic load. Not sure if that is an athletic department rule or a football rule. (Yeah, I know, let the jokes begin but I knew a very bright football player 4-5 yrs ago that shared this with me).

I think the point would be he would not be a wrestler yet and so would not be subject to any rules regarding athletes. Unless I misunderstood the post.
 
I don't know about the wrestlers but the Football players are required to take 15-16 cr per semester minimum & Summer school does not count towards their athletic load. Not sure if that is an athletic department rule or a football rule. (Yeah, I know, let the jokes begin but I knew a very bright football player 4-5 yrs ago that shared this with me).

That would be a little surprising. Can you explain the 'summer school does not count towards their athletic load'?
 
That would be a little surprising. Can you explain the 'summer school does not count towards their athletic load'?
To be a full-time student you've to take 12 credit hours a semester if you take 3 credits hours in summer school it doesn't mean the next semester you can take 9 credit hours.
 
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