I don’t disagree that they were obvious decisions - but it still takes some guts to overrule KF and TB when you are just getting started in the job. Even though ultimately i believe she is doing them both a favor.
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Maybe interviewed on Youtube, but not for the head coach at Iowa, unless you want to drop like Oklahoma. I doubt that any of those guys would be interested anyway.
You guys are in a good place, the AD showed the stones TnT should have months ago. Honestly you didn't need whatever would have played out over the next three months let alone years. A disaster averted IMO.
I think the concept of a 3-headed package deal for these kids has now imploded.
AJ - I don't think anyone will have him, especially considering he wants to be paid as if he were a good investment.
Anthony - IMO noone is as bad as big brother, but he has had his moments. I think he is still trouble, and if he bails, view it as a positive.
Angelo - I don't see any indication he is going anywhere. So far he has been problem free, excepting the association with his brothers (problem partially solved). I think he stays a hawk and has the talent to remain very excited about his future in Iowa. If the family tries to keep the concept of a package deal alive, and anyone bites, then it's on them, history will repeat.
Now if end up with Angelo alone, and you can control Uncle Carmine and the Papabodybooster in the stands, you are golden.
They’ve all proven they can recruit and fundraise at lesser schools. If they had Iowa's resources I think they’d do fine.
I think its only a little crazy to thing that your only measuring yourself up against the 5 or 6 teams but ok. I still have us as the second best team. I looked back at the past 10 contested NCAA championships only at the top six teams each year. I gave a team 1 point for 6th place and 6 points for 1st place. In my table I have 14 teams with at least 1 point.
Penn State has 54 Points
Iowa has 38 Points
Ohio State has 30 Points
Ok State has 26 Points
Michigan has 13 Points
Missouri has 10 Points
The way I see it Iowa has been the 2nd best team over the past 11 years or so. I don't think 2020 really moves the needle in the analysis that I have done. I again have a hard time moving on from that unless you get Cael to come to Iowa with his whole staff.
They mostly have jobs that they like now, and they're not exactly Hawkeye fans. Koll is not leaving Carolina. Smith is not leaving Mizzou. Hahn smells like a gopher. Pat Pop is settled in at NC State. Pendleton isn't exactly tearing it up at Oregon St. Taylor is an f'ing Nit with little coaching record. Opinions differ about how well any of these guys would do at Iowa.
I didn’t suggest they would or wouldn’t but these are Probly the best proven guys who have improved programs they have gone to. I replied to the question who they should go after and just listed guys that aren’t in the Hawkeye tree.
Who are you going after?
The obvious choice is Casey Cunningham. He’s the best non-HC in the NCAA by a wide margin. Hell, he’s better than all but a couple HCs. But, his kid is climbing the HS ranks and has already committed to Penn State. So, he’s not leaving.
IMO the best and quickest and easiest way to inject life into this program is bringing on new assistant coaches and forking out some HWC funds for bigger senior level athletes.
Moving on from Tom would be a hard reset that could take years to recover from. We're not there yet.
Moving on from Tom would be a hard reset that could take years to recover from. We're not there yet.
The obvious choice is Ben Askren. He probably wouldn’t consider Iowa but he is a top coach in the country and is consistently churning out elite prospects in the Midwest.
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No Thanks. Not at all
Can’t hate results and Ben Askren produces desired results.
Asher Cunningham is one of the kids throwing his hat in the ring as a longshot competing with Haines, Mesenbrink, Facundo, Barr, Duke, Sealey, Henckel, etc. for essentially 3 lineup spots over the next couple years. It would probably take quite an offer to pry Casey away from Penn State, but if you do, Asher will almost certainly come with him unless he's successfully usurped a spot from the likes of Healey or PJ Duke.
Asher's recent results include 3rd at Ironman and winning King of the Mountain and Powerade.
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I can see your point about a coaching change but have you seen what Iowa's current roster makeup for next year looks like? Ouch.
I agree. That's going to take a lot of NIL and scholarship money though.
Being a Packers fan in the Chicago area it is no longer any fun to try and poke Bears fans. I feel sorry for them and try to give them a reason to be happy about their team. PSU fans are starting to act the same way towards Iowa and it sucks.
Why not just ride things out with Tom till his contract expires? Didn't you guys want Spencer as to be your coach down the road anyway?
I lived in Chicago (Forest Park actually) in the 90s when the Packers under Favre won the Super Bowl and the Bears were in the throes of the Cade McNown era. I used to joke about the “Lincoln Park Packers” because there were so many fans there.
Not for wrestling, there are plenty of muscle groups to let lag a little so you’re not carrying around unnecessary weight. For bodybuilding? It’s obvious AJ hates leg day as much as anyone else.
You don’t interview DT, you just write the check. Bob Stoops 2.0.
Yes, what's up with that? They always talk about how Spencer was going to be their next coach, but perhaps he lost some of his shine recently?
SL is going to need some coaching experience before being handed the keys to the kingdom, imo.
Glad to see you and all the other PSU fans think we are much better off with the 3 Ferrari brothers. Maybe you could let us have 3 or 4 of your huge collection of blue chip recruits to make up for it.
Spencer is only 25. He's still a handful of years away from being ready to be a HC for any program.
But that doesn't mean they can't bring him in as an assistant coach following this Olympic run.
Fwiw Tom was 36 when he took over at VT and Carl was 28 when he was handed the keys to ISU.
Well the only fact in the Ferraris story line is this; John Smith is the happiest coach in America.
It ain’t over until Pat Mineo says it’s over. So obviously, it ain’t over.
He’s gonna either (a) end up on a stretcher, or (b) in a YT gym fail video if he squats heavy like that, maybe both.
Okay, here's my single post on today's apparent news.
Probably for the best. Like Tom, I really wanted his points. But man, what a DB.
Everyone knew it was a bold gambit. The fact that it imploded was unsurprising. But give kudos to Tom for trying it. He wants to win. So do I. When you're down by 8 in the third period, most people give up. Brands will keep trying to win. In this case, he's got a fat contract through 2029. He doesn't need to go bold. But he did. I like that about him.
To the future.
Probably for the best. Like Tom, I really wanted his points. But man, what a DB.
Everyone knew it was a bold gambit. The fact that it imploded was unsurprising. But give kudos to Tom for trying it. He wants to win. So do I. When you're down by 8 in the third period, most people give up. Brands will keep trying to win. In this case, he's got a fat contract through 2029. He doesn't need to go bold. But he did. I like that about him.
To the future.
The program needs new non Iowa guys. The loyalty to graduates is great but you need to bring in new ideas, new styles, learn from others. Hwc is just all previous hawks so it’s the same old.
Sure, it was a bold gambit, but it didn’t just not work out for AJ, it cost the team Chittum. They should have known about the history there and the additional risk.
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