You want Chittum? I'm not sure I want him seems like a cancer to me.Sure, it was a bold gambit, but it didn’t just not work out for AJ, it cost the team Chittum. They should have known about the history there and the additional risk.
You want Chittum? I'm not sure I want him seems like a cancer to me.Sure, it was a bold gambit, but it didn’t just not work out for AJ, it cost the team Chittum. They should have known about the history there and the additional risk.
Not true at all.... Coach Mitchell says it's Grand View not Grandview.....Grandview takes everyone
Compared to Ferrari he is cancer freeYou want Chittum? I'm not sure I want him seems like a cancer to me.
That's exactly what I was alluding to.The program needs new non Iowa guys. The loyalty to graduates is great but you need to bring in new ideas, new styles, learn from others. Hwc is just all previous hawks so it’s the same old.
That’s the part that bothers me most. They lost Chittum due to documented bad behavior by the middle Ferrari. Big bruh never made it to the starting line. Not sure if younger Ferraris will ever be on team. That can’t help recruiting.Sure, it was a bold gambit, but it didn’t just not work out for AJ, it cost the team Chittum. They should have known about the history there and the additional risk.
Why would Iowa want the trash Penn state coachesI think its only a little crazy to thing that your only measuring yourself up against the 5 or 6 teams but ok. I still have us as the second best team. I looked back at the past 10 contested NCAA championships only at the top six teams each year. I gave a team 1 point for 6th place and 6 points for 1st place. In my table I have 14 teams with at least 1 point.
Penn State has 54 Points
Iowa has 38 Points
Ohio State has 30 Points
Ok State has 26 Points
Michigan has 13 Points
Missouri has 10 Points
The way I see it Iowa has been the 2nd best team over the past 11 years or so. I don't think 2020 really moves the needle in the analysis that I have done. I again have a hard time moving on from that unless you get Cael to come to Iowa with his whole staff.
Why? It's worked for 40+ years and keeps us in the top 5 year in and year out. PSU'w run will come to an end eventually, they aways do. Ok St, Iowa etc.The program needs new non Iowa guys. The loyalty to graduates is great but you need to bring in new ideas, new styles, learn from others. Hwc is just all previous hawks so it’s the same old.
🤣🤣🤣Chittum is a cancer yet your all for AJ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣You want Chittum? I'm not sure I want him seems like a cancer to me.
You want Chittum? I'm not sure I want him seems like a cancer to me.
Not everything is about Penn StateWhy would Iowa want the trash Penn state coaches
Ben Askren, would be my first call.Serious question - what coaches would you go after?
Only 5 head coaches have won titles since Zalesky's last in 2000, and only 3 since Brands first in 2008.
You aren't getting anyone who has won a title, and unless you are getting Koll, you aren't even getting anyone who had a runner up (Tom Ryan, Bormet). So then you are left hoping an up and comer can make it click - who are you taking? I doubt you get anybody from the PSU staff, and Im not sure who else makes you better.
This is undoubtedly a down year, but Iowa has had a rough 10 or so months. If you want Brands gone, fine, but I really dont think this is a Brands issue.. its just that right now its PSU and everyone else. If Iowa isn't back to podium status in the next year or two, maybe ill feel different
Umm ok…..multiple on here have recommended contacting Nolf, Taylor, Casey and even Cael…..yet so many on here say Cael is trash….every other post on here references psu just like every other post on bwi mention IowaNot everything is about Penn State
Agree but I would also look at Max Askren. Max quietly does an excellent job coaching at AWA. Kind of flys under the radar.Ben Askren, would be my first call.
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You're a very patient man. PSU's run has lasted 13 years and there's no reason to think it'll end anytime soon. I have less confidence that Tom will figure it out; he's had 13 years, and absent hitting the jackpot in the portal, the team looks to have some lean years coming up.Why? It's worked for 40+ years and keeps us in the top 5 year in and year out. PSU'w run will come to an end eventually, they aways do. Ok St, Iowa etc.
Now bringing in a few new styles isn't a bad thing. But the Hawk formula works and most teams mimic it. It's a recruiting thing and it'll get figured out. The NIL is a game changer and Iowa will figure it out. Carl has it figured out right now, but other teams will catch up.
I want wrestlers who wrestle under our coaches and trust them. Chittum clearly didn't have that. I trust TNT to make the decision on the Ferraris🤣🤣🤣Chittum is a cancer yet your all for AJ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like our guys. Cael would be an upgrade though. It's never going to happen and I'm totally fine with that.Why would Iowa want the trash Penn state coaches
If he had just run his mouth and did some pushing he might have been ok. But when he threw the punch and flipped the bird, that got him the hook.
If chittum would have signed in the fall, who knows if they still persue Anthony hard in the spring. I’m sure it helped with Angelo, but Anthony said he told his brother to take all his visits, and not just follow his brother, like he did when he committed to Oklahoma state without taking other visits.Sure, it was a bold gambit, but it didn’t just not work out for AJ, it cost the team Chittum. They should have known about the history there and the additional risk.
Well said.Okay, here's my single post on today's apparent news.
Probably for the best. Like Tom, I really wanted his points. But man, what a DB.
Everyone knew it was a bold gambit. The fact that it imploded was unsurprising. But give kudos to Tom for trying it. He wants to win. So do I. When you're down by 8 in the third period, most people give up. Brands will keep trying to win. In this case, he's got a fat contract through 2029. He doesn't need to go bold. But he did. I like that about him.
To the future.
I know nothing about the signing process with Chittum. Just what I read here. But I do know the Ferraris carry some heavy baggage. Luckily AJ can hella dead lift.If chittum would have signed in the fall, who knows if they still persue Anthony hard in the spring. I’m sure it helped with Angelo, but Anthony said he told his brother to take all his visits, and not just follow his brother, like he did when he committed to Oklahoma state without taking other visits.
Chittum had plenty of trust until they decided to do business with the very same douchebags who got kicked out of his high school after they got into a fight. That’s like a direct slap in the face.I want wrestlers who wrestle under our coaches and trust them. Chittum clearly didn't have that. I trust TNT to make the decision on the Ferraris
You're a very patient man. PSU's run has lasted 13 years and there's no reason to think it'll end anytime soon. I have less confidence that Tom will figure it out; he's had 13 years, and absent hitting the jackpot in the portal, the team looks to have some lean years coming up.
Lol….she’s exactly what Iowa needs .Goetz can go ahead and see herself out. She should get no consideration for the job.
Yes. She’s done everything right so far, just not everything the way the Brands do it.Lol….she’s exactly what Iowa needs .
Sign her to a lengthy deal. More stones in 6 months than the former clown showed his entire career
For what it's worth... I'm on Team ZG, regardless of anyone else in the discussion. Has been a warrior this year.Plus, let’s say ZG doesn’t All American but certainly is a blood round guy versus AJ getting fourth place. Are those few points worth this hassle. I think everyone agrees it’s not.
I don't think Spencer will have any coaching gig on his mind until after he has a Oly and a few world medals around his neck. Following the Brands in 2029 might just work out about right.SL is going to need some coaching experience before being handed the keys to the kingdom, imo.
Meh, he’s probably fine. Pretty typical low bar squat. Course, he also strikes me as someone who would ego lift. At least he is using safety bars.He’s gonna either (a) end up on a stretcher, or (b) in a YT gym fail video if he squats heavy like that, maybe both.
If Arnold takes off the redshirt all the replacements for the suspended are better except HWT.Patience for sure, but we did just win two titles (covid aside) recently, and PSU has yet to show they can win more than four in a row without punting a year to line things up. Should be opportunities to jump in and take one again. This year is screwed because of gambling, not because of poor recruiting, otherwise it'd be an easy second place again. It doesn't have anything to do with figuring anything out, unless they found a way to get a waiver on the gamblers. Those guys screwed the team, that wasn't Brands doing and if he knew they were going to screw up he wouldn't have had to try and find a quick solution this year, he'd have planned for it three years ago.
maybe tom might actually have lower himself and go out and try to recruit for a change.Losing Angelo is gonna hurt. Iowa is gonna have so many holes next year. 33,41,49,57,84,97,285
not a problem at all if you are satisfied with continually getting out recruited and just trying to finish in the top 5 or 6 at nationals.Taking a beating from who?
The only team to give us any beating is PSU and they're beating the shit out of everyone.
If Gabe takes off the redshirt, it will most likely be to wrestle 174, which means you still have 184 where both of the top two are suspended.If Arnold takes off the redshirt all the replacements for the suspended are better except HWT.
My bad. I forgot about 184.If Gabe takes off the redshirt, it will most likely be to wrestle 174, which means you still have 184 where both of the top two are suspended.
184? Never mind, I see you caught that.If Arnold takes off the redshirt all the replacements for the suspended are better except HWT.
He’s just so misunderstood. Every. Time.
Interesting response - watch it. Just his perspective.Anybody care to summarize what he says?
God this, God that, he doesnt slap his opponents in the ass... blah..blah...blah blahh blah blah.Anybody care to summarize what he says?
IMO the best and quickest and easiest way to inject life into this program is bringing on new assistant coaches and forking out some HWC funds for bigger senior level athletes.
Moving on from Tom would be a hard reset that could take years to recover from. We're not there yet.
The obvious choice is Ben Askren. He probably wouldn’t consider Iowa but he is a top coach in the country and is consistently churning out elite prospects in the Midwest.