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*****Official Cubs 2019 thread*****


That's certainly some spin right now.....and yet, I don't think he's entirely wrong. The Cubs just had a road trip where basically every reliever forgot how to pitch. The likelihood that what was a largely good pen last year suddenly is historically bad because every single guy now sucks is pretty low. There's some small sample size factor, there's some inertia factor once things start going south, but all of these guys haven't simultaneously forgotten how to pitch.

Carl Edwards is currently broken, but hopefully he'll get back to his old mechanics at Iowa and figure things out. Chatwood is Chatwood. But Cishek, Strop and others have plenty of track record to give hope to the idea that they're not done and that this one horrendous week is not just who they are now. Yesterday was a good start, throwing 4 scoreless against the Brewers.

Hopefully the home cooking today will get things going in a better direction. It certainly did for Houston.
 
That's certainly some spin right now.....and yet, I don't think he's entirely wrong. The Cubs just had a road trip where basically every reliever forgot how to pitch. The likelihood that what was a largely good pen last year suddenly is historically bad because every single guy now sucks is pretty low. There's some small sample size factor, there's some inertia factor once things start going south, but all of these guys haven't simultaneously forgotten how to pitch.

Carl Edwards is currently broken, but hopefully he'll get back to his old mechanics at Iowa and figure things out. Chatwood is Chatwood. But Cishek, Strop and others have plenty of track record to give hope to the idea that they're not done and that this one horrendous week is not just who they are now. Yesterday was a good start, throwing 4 scoreless against the Brewers.

Hopefully the home cooking today will get things going in a better direction. It certainly did for Houston.
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Yikes...Lester may have injured himself on that trip around the bases. He did get up off the infield a little slow after scoring...hmmm.
 
That's certainly some spin right now.....and yet, I don't think he's entirely wrong. The Cubs just had a road trip where basically every reliever forgot how to pitch. The likelihood that what was a largely good pen last year suddenly is historically bad because every single guy now sucks is pretty low. There's some small sample size factor, there's some inertia factor once things start going south, but all of these guys haven't simultaneously forgotten how to pitch.

Carl Edwards is currently broken, but hopefully he'll get back to his old mechanics at Iowa and figure things out. Chatwood is Chatwood. But Cishek, Strop and others have plenty of track record to give hope to the idea that they're not done and that this one horrendous week is not just who they are now. Yesterday was a good start, throwing 4 scoreless against the Brewers.

Hopefully the home cooking today will get things going in a better direction. It certainly did for Houston.

I completely agree. Bullpens are hot/cold/hot/cold by nature and can be tweaked on the fly. This Cubs bullpen will not be great, but if Morrow comes back healthy, the pen could be solid. I have no concerns about Strop or Cishek apart from being on the wrong side of 30.

I am far more concerned about the Cubs starting rotation. If the current guys don't pitch better, there isn't much they can do to improve given the dearth of Minor League options.

And, the best thing for a bullpen is to have a rotation that goes 6 and even 7 innings regularly. They were bad on the road trip, but were plagued by bad starts. Darvish through 6 2/3 over 2 starts, Quintana got torched in his start, and even Kyle Hendricks failed to go 5 in either of his starts.

If the starters get it together, you will see an improved bullpen.
 
If Chatwood starts on Sunday I’ll rage vomit. I’d much rather see Duane Underwood up and be told to go get us four innings.
 
I haven’t seen anything official, but the Score was talking about moving Wednesday’s game up to tomorrow? See the thread about the massive storm coming. The high on Wednesday is expected to be 38, and lots of rain throughout the day.
I don’t know if it is feasible to move up a game with so little warning.
 
I haven’t seen anything official, but the Score was talking about moving Wednesday’s game up to tomorrow? See the thread about the massive storm coming. The high on Wednesday is expected to be 38, and lots of rain throughout the day.
I don’t know if it is feasible to move up a game with so little warning.
I heard that mentioned on the radio broadcast. But they made it sound it was just media types talking about it.
 
This issue with Strop — he’s probably our best bullpen arm, but we never get to use him as he’s sitting in the closer role. We need him for the 8th.

7 - Cishek
8 - Strop
9 - Closer

Or if I’m dreaming...

7 - Strop
8 - Morrow
9 - Kimbrel
 
Last I read Kimbrel still wants Chapman money and Dallas probably looking at something like what Arrieta got.
My guess is Dallas has several 2 to 3 year offers and nobody even wants to touch Kimbrel's agent in serious discussions until they get more realistic.
 
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They're asking for too much vs their age.
They want a lot of money, but a team would have to give up a draft pick unless they wait until after the draft in June. Teams highly value those picks, and it’s starting to work against FAs.
The longer they wait, the less effective they will be when signed. There is no training regimen they can do right now to simulate MLB pitching.
 
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Last I read Kimbrel still wants Chapman money and Dallas probably looking at something like what Arrieta got.
My guess is Dallas has several 2 to 3 year offers and nobody even wants to touch Kimbrel's agent in serious discussions until they get more realistic.
Kimbrel was asking for 5 years supposedly... That’s a deal that gets a GM fired these days. Even Theo keeps his really crappy deals to starters.
 
Matt Spiegel mentioned this morning that the bullpen has been far too important because Theo gave away Eloy Jiminez and Dylan Cease for Jose Quintana who is lucky to go five innings, and he gave made two FA blunders in Darvish and Chatwood.
you forgot to mention the great value we got out of torres ;)
 
I completely agree. Bullpens are hot/cold/hot/cold by nature and can be tweaked on the fly. This Cubs bullpen will not be great, but if Morrow comes back healthy, the pen could be solid. I have no concerns about Strop or Cishek apart from being on the wrong side of 30.
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You should. I don't see how they make it through the entire season. Hopefully there are lots of blowouts!
 
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