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*****Official Cubs 2023 thread*****

If he had to, I think Merryweather could take over closing duties right now. He’s been nasty and getting nastier.
Nice to see JM bouncing back after a lousy July, and I suppose he would probably be the choice for closer if AA couldn't do it. However, I don't think he would be nearly as effective in the closer role. He is literally zero-for-1 in save opportunities this season; suddenly throwing him in there as the regular closer might not go well.
 
I just noticed that Cade Horton threw 5 innings with no earned runs for the second straight start for Tennessee. His AA numbers are 4 starts, 18 IP, 1.00 ERA, 21 K, 7 BB. He will be in the discussion of potentially getting into the MLB rotation next season. Gonna really be competitive in the spring, even if Stroman and Hendricks aren't there.
 
Nice to see JM bouncing back after a lousy July, and I suppose he would probably be the choice for closer if AA couldn't do it. However, I don't think he would be nearly as effective in the closer role. He is literally zero-for-1 in save opportunities this season; suddenly throwing him in there as the regular closer might not go well.
He really hasn’t had any save opportunities. He technically got one blown save because he entered a game in the 7th on July 19 vs. the Nats where the Cubs had a 1-run lead and he gave up 2 (Cubs did come back to win the game). By rule, he entered a game in a save situation and lost the lead, so he gets the blown save, but he wasn’t really put in to get the save, it would have been a “hold” if he’d have kept the lead.

He hasn’t closed, so there would be some adjustment, but his stuff absolutely plays in that role.
 
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I just noticed that Cade Horton threw 5 innings with no earned runs for the second straight start for Tennessee. His AA numbers are 4 starts, 18 IP, 1.00 ERA, 21 K, 7 BB. He will be in the discussion of potentially getting into the MLB rotation next season. Gonna really be competitive in the spring, even if Stroman and Hendricks aren't there.
It’ll be interesting to see what they do with him next year. They’ll be very conscious of his work load. He only threw 53 innings in college after surgery and he’s a tick under 80 innings this year and will probably be shut down soon. I wouldn’t be surprised if they target something like 120 innings next year, which may mean he starts the season in the minors with starts more spaced out to limit the overall workload. He’s really exciting, though.
 
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It’ll be interesting to see what they do with him next year. They’ll be very conscious of his work load. He only threw 53 innings in college after surgery and he’s a tick under 80 innings this year and will probably be shut down soon. I wouldn’t be surprised if they target something like 120 innings next year, which may mean he starts the season in the minors with starts more spaced out to limit the overall workload. He’s really exciting, though.
My guess is EST, and then an assignment to AA or AAA. A lot of teams go from AA to the bigs these days. They will get his feet wet next season for sure.
 
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Keegan Thompson being called up today.

Insert Obi Wan gif about a name we haven't heard in a while here...
He's been good lately. I think he's purely an arm for a few days. Rucker will probably stay with the team in case another pitcher gets tricep soreness... Or, he goes down if they bring Wicks up to start on Sunday.
 
Oh, thank God. We really needed a shutdown guy in the pen. That 9.36 ERA and WHIP >2 at AAA will have them shaking in their boots.
The Cubs are in the hunt for the playoffs, but this could be a 40 man play. Thompson was successful last year, and the Cubs are letting him prove his worth. If he fails, the Cubs will need a spot for one of the guys like Hicks they might add to the major league roster this year. Especially since Boxburger and Hughes are progressing on rehab assignments.
 
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Oh, thank God. We really needed a shutdown guy in the pen. That 9.36 ERA and WHIP >2 at AAA will have them shaking in their boots.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in the ERA/WHIP. It was a 25 inning sample size and he went down to work on things. He was HORRENDOUS his first two outings down, but then did have a couple stretches where he threw the ball well, including his last four outings. He’s also not going into a shutdown leverage role at this point, either.
 
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The Cubs are in the hunt for the playoffs, but this could be a 40 man play. Thompson was successful last year, and the Cubs are letting him prove his worth. If he fails, the Cubs will need a spot for one of the guys like Hicks they might add to the major league roster this year. Especially since Boxburger and Hughes are progressing on rehab assignments.
And Burdi, also on 60-day IL. The Cubs presently have 2 40-man spots open, so the first two guys up/back are easy. There’s been all kinds of chatter about Wicks, obviously, and also about PCA in September (he’d also need a spot on the 40). Cubs have been working Shane Greene hard and also still have Tyler Duffey who they have as bullpen insurance and neither of those guys is on the 40.

There’s a little bit of buffer on the 40, but not as much as there used to be:
  • 2 open slots
  • Jared Young - like him, but there’s just no place for him
  • Anthony Kay would seem at risk
  • Edwin Uceta? Cubs just got him off waivers from the Mets, seems unlikely to DFA this soon
  • Rucker - not totally sure he’s fully safe
Small chance the Cubs DFA Smyly, but they’d be eating something close to $17M factoring the rest of this year’s pay & bonuses and the escalators that kick to next year plus his $2.5M buyout for 2025. They’d have about $30M in dead money next year.
 
And Burdi, also on 60-day IL. The Cubs presently have 2 40-man spots open, so the first two guys up/back are easy. There’s been all kinds of chatter about Wicks, obviously, and also about PCA in September (he’d also need a spot on the 40). Cubs have been working Shane Greene hard and also still have Tyler Duffey who they have as bullpen insurance and neither of those guys is on the 40.

There’s a little bit of buffer on the 40, but not as much as there used to be:
  • 2 open slots
  • Jared Young - like him, but there’s just no place for him
  • Anthony Kay would seem at risk
  • Edwin Uceta? Cubs just got him off waivers from the Mets, seems unlikely to DFA this soon
  • Rucker - not totally sure he’s fully safe
Small chance the Cubs DFA Smyly, but they’d be eating something close to $17M factoring the rest of this year’s pay & bonuses and the escalators that kick to next year plus his $2.5M buyout for 2025. They’d have about $30M in dead money next year.
I seriously doubt Burdi is part of the Cubs' future plans. He'll be given a chance to show his worth if he is able to come back this season, but he'll have a short leash and get waived as soon as they need his 40-man spot. IMO he'd have to have a terrific Sept to avoid being non-tendered, despite having a few option years left. Same deal with Keegan, the only differences being he's 2 years younger than Burdi and won't be ARB eligible until '25.

I'd personally rather see Greene come up and take a rotation spot, but everyone wants to see Wicks, which I'm ok with.

Don't know what the deal is with Duffey. Signed, released by Iowa, signed again, now might come to the Majors?

I have doubts that we'll ever see Kay, Young or Rucker in Chicago again, although they all have enough value that I'd like to see them kept on for an offseason trade. Uceta is an interesting experiment; I'd like to see him given a chance, but time is running short. Don't think too many people would be happy that there wasn't room on the roster for PCA in September because Uceta needed it...

Holy cow, I hope things don't get to the point that Smyly needs to be released. The Cubs are already eating Heyward, Mancini and Barnhart salaries to the tune of ~$43M. Although he's really expensive as a middle reliever/lefty specialist in the pen, he does have quite a bit of value in that role. I would hope that they would use him effectively for the rest of this season and next. I think he could be a trade deadline piece next July if there is a fringe playoff team desperately needing a starter and want to take a chance on him.
 
I seriously doubt Burdi is part of the Cubs' future plans. He'll be given a chance to show his worth if he is able to come back this season, but he'll have a short leash and get waived as soon as they need his 40-man spot. IMO he'd have to have a terrific Sept to avoid being non-tendered, despite having a few option years left. Same deal with Keegan, the only differences being he's 2 years younger than Burdi and won't be ARB eligible until '25.

I'd personally rather see Greene come up and take a rotation spot, but everyone wants to see Wicks, which I'm ok with.

Don't know what the deal is with Duffey. Signed, released by Iowa, signed again, now might come to the Majors?

I have doubts that we'll ever see Kay, Young or Rucker in Chicago again, although they all have enough value that I'd like to see them kept on for an offseason trade. Uceta is an interesting experiment; I'd like to see him given a chance, but time is running short. Don't think too many people would be happy that there wasn't room on the roster for PCA in September because Uceta needed it...

Holy cow, I hope things don't get to the point that Smyly needs to be released. The Cubs are already eating Heyward, Mancini and Barnhart salaries to the tune of ~$43M. Although he's really expensive as a middle reliever/lefty specialist in the pen, he does have quite a bit of value in that role. I would hope that they would use him effectively for the rest of this season and next. I think he could be a trade deadline piece next July if there is a fringe playoff team desperately needing a starter and want to take a chance on him.
For Burdi, I’m talking only about the next month and getting through this season. There will be a lot of 40-man decisions when the season ends and Burdi may well be a guy that doesn’t get tendered, depending on what he does in September.

Duffey had signed a deal with an opt-out in May/June if he wasn’t put on the 40-man. Pretty sure the move out was from him opting out, but then he wound up signing back. I’m curious with he, Greene and Uceta who gets a shot during this season. Greene has basically always been a reliever, but threw a pretty dominant 5 innings on the Wicks scratch day, so who knows.

Also really interesting right now is the re-emergency of Alexander Canario. He’s back to health and is tearing it up in AAA. He’s a different player than PCA, but he’s already on the 40-man and if it hadn’t been for his freak injury last winter, we might not know who Mike Tauchman is. PCA brings speed and D that Canario doesn’t, so they’re not bringing the same things, but being on the 40 could make things interesting.

Anthony Kay remains interesting. I think he’s absolutely at risk for DFA, but he’s also a lefty who throws 96. He really only had 2 bad outings in Chicago and he’s not given up anything since going down. Rucker is, as you point out, also very much at risk and yet I think he’s shown he’s a guy who can pitch in the majors and get outs. This is becoming a very good problem to have. Luke Little is coming fast and only 22, lefty with pretty dramatic swing & miss stuff.

I think Young is pretty obviously the choice to be first out when they need a spot. He’s getting older and while he could probably catch a bench role somewhere in baseball, he’s just not as good as several guys the Cubs already have up or in AAA and at 28, the Cubs aren’t likely to wait around for more.

I don’t actually think the Cubs will DFA Smyly. He’s looked good out of the pen and he’s done well there in the past. Next year, I’d like to see him in the pen and he’ll be a guy who can go long and he can also step in and make a spot start at the last second if you need it. I think what you can’t do with Smyly at this point in his career is think he’s going to make 20 starts and be effective. Over the course of a season, he can probably be trusted to make 5-6 here and there as needed. Cubs are already carrying too much dead money, but at least Heyward’s is gone after this season.
 
Good conversation on the 40 man in here. I would really like to see Smyly come out of the pen and be a spot starter during those stretches where they don't have any days off for 17-21 days. He can be effective at times as a starter, just not over the course of entire season. I wish he would be open to restructuring his deal, but can't blame him for not doing it.

I don't follow the minor league teams as much as you guys do, so it is great hearing what's in the system from you guys. Thanks!
 
Good conversation on the 40 man in here. I would really like to see Smyly come out of the pen and be a spot starter during those stretches where they don't have any days off for 17-21 days. He can be effective at times as a starter, just not over the course of entire season. I wish he would be open to restructuring his deal, but can't blame him for not doing it.

I don't follow the minor league teams as much as you guys do, so it is great hearing what's in the system from you guys. Thanks!
Ironically, Smyly had a clause in his contract that if he crossed 100 innings pitched, he earned an opt out for 2024. I can’t imagine there’s any chance he takes it.
 
Yeah, all but official at this point.

Looks like Palencia will be the odd man out and head back to AAA. Cuas has been much more effective than him since he joined the team, and Keegan hasn't thrown a pitch yet since being recalled.
I’ve seen a couple reports on social media that Cuas and his wife/gf/whatever might have lost a pregnancy that was pretty far along. I wonder if he goes on bereavement for a stretch. That would just be a short-term thing. I’d say longer term, it’s either Palencia or Wesneski goes back to Iowa to start, taking Wicks place in the ICubs rotation. Also possible Keegan goes right back down, if he was primarily brought up to be an extra arm for a couple days vs. being a more permanent part of the pen.
 
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The Cubs are already eating Heyward, Mancini and Barnhart salaries to the tune of ~$43M
As I was reading your post I almost choked on this. i watch a lot of Dodger games late nights and, while I'm not quite sure of the stats, it appears to me that JayHey is having a pretty good year and is contributing to the team.

Just looked them up

AVG .247
OBP .337
OPS .789
SLG .452

Yep, last year he was AVG .204, SLG .277, and had an OPS of .555. Woof.
 
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I’ve seen a couple reports on social media that Cuas and his wife/gf/whatever might have lost a pregnancy that was pretty far along. I wonder if he goes on bereavement for a stretch. That would just be a short-term thing. I’d say longer term, it’s either Palencia or Wesneski goes back to Iowa to start, taking Wicks place in the ICubs rotation. Also possible Keegan goes right back down, if he was primarily brought up to be an extra arm for a couple days vs. being a more permanent part of the pen.
I thought about them sending Wes back down to start again, but here's why I think they won't:

Due to the 9/1 double-header, Cubs will need a 6th starter to go 9/5 vs. SF. Although Smyly could make that spot start, I think it will be Wes.

Even if Stroman doesn't return, I don't think it's a certainty that Wicks will remain in the rotation for the rest of the season. I envision him getting a 3-start audition - Sat at Pit, 9/1 at Cin and 9/6 vs. SF. If things don't go particularly well, then Wes is ready to take that spot in the rotation (going again 9/11 at Col on an extra day of rest). I can't imagine a scenario in which Smyly gets put back into the regular rotation, even if the Wicks experiment fails. I think that Shane Greene would even be put in there before he would (if, say, Wes is also ineffective). Smyly needs to get in the mindset that he is a reliever now and focus on that alone.

Maybe Ben Brown is ready to return to the I-Cubs rotation???

Also, just read that Uceta was put on waivers, cleared and outrighted to Iowa. Dang, the team is clearing space for who they might need down the stretch.
 
I thought about them sending Wes back down to start again, but here's why I think they won't:

Due to the 9/1 double-header, Cubs will need a 6th starter to go 9/5 vs. SF. Although Smyly could make that spot start, I think it will be Wes.

Even if Stroman doesn't return, I don't think it's a certainty that Wicks will remain in the rotation for the rest of the season. I envision him getting a 3-start audition - Sat at Pit, 9/1 at Cin and 9/6 vs. SF. If things don't go particularly well, then Wes is ready to take that spot in the rotation (going again 9/11 at Col on an extra day of rest). I can't imagine a scenario in which Smyly gets put back into the regular rotation, even if the Wicks experiment fails. I think that Shane Greene would even be put in there before he would (if, say, Wes is also ineffective). Smyly needs to get in the mindset that he is a reliever now and focus on that alone.

Maybe Ben Brown is ready to return to the I-Cubs rotation???

Also, just read that Uceta was put on waivers, cleared and outrighted to Iowa. Dang, the team is clearing space for who they might need down the stretch.
He has the dreaded lat strain, and to my knowledge has not resumed pitching activities at this time. He'd need to go to Arizona for a few days at a minimum, then return to Des Moines for a start or two to make a credible MLB debut, in my opinion.
 
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As I was reading your post I almost choked on this. i watch a lot of Dodger games late nights and, while I'm not quite sure of the stats, it appears to me that JayHey is having a pretty good year and is contributing to the team.

Just looked them up

AVG .247
OBP .337
OPS .789
SLG .452

Yep, last year he was AVG .204, SLG .277, and had an OPS of .555. Woof.
still do not miss Heyward
 
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He has the dreaded lat strain, and to my knowledge has not resumed pitching activities at this time. He'd need to go to Arizona for a few days at a minimum, then return to Des Moines for a start or two to make a credible MLB debut, in my opinion.
Hadn't heard what the deal was with Brown (link?). Thanks for the update. Wasn't suggesting that he would be in the Majors this season, but I certainly don't want him nursing an injury into next season.
 
As I was reading your post I almost choked on this. i watch a lot of Dodger games late nights and, while I'm not quite sure of the stats, it appears to me that JayHey is having a pretty good year and is contributing to the team.

Just looked them up

AVG .247
OBP .337
OPS .789
SLG .452

Yep, last year he was AVG .204, SLG .277, and had an OPS of .555. Woof.
On the flip side, look what Bellinger did with LA in 2021 and 2022 vs what he’s doing now. It’s pretty clear both guys needed a change of scenery and I certainly wouldn’t wish Heyward back at the cost of Bellinger…or maybe even Tauchman. I’m happy for JHey, though.
 
I thought about them sending Wes back down to start again, but here's why I think they won't:

Due to the 9/1 double-header, Cubs will need a 6th starter to go 9/5 vs. SF. Although Smyly could make that spot start, I think it will be Wes.

Even if Stroman doesn't return, I don't think it's a certainty that Wicks will remain in the rotation for the rest of the season. I envision him getting a 3-start audition - Sat at Pit, 9/1 at Cin and 9/6 vs. SF. If things don't go particularly well, then Wes is ready to take that spot in the rotation (going again 9/11 at Col on an extra day of rest). I can't imagine a scenario in which Smyly gets put back into the regular rotation, even if the Wicks experiment fails. I think that Shane Greene would even be put in there before he would (if, say, Wes is also ineffective). Smyly needs to get in the mindset that he is a reliever now and focus on that alone.

Maybe Ben Brown is ready to return to the I-Cubs rotation???

Also, just read that Uceta was put on waivers, cleared and outrighted to Iowa. Dang, the team is clearing space for who they might need down the stretch.
I think you’re mostly right here. The big question on Brown is that I haven’t heard much about his injury or rehab, other than a lot of the usual prospect guys and Alex Cohen are indicating that it’s not serious (serious can be relative, as in no long-term worries, but maybe not a quick return). The best info I have is that he hasn’t pitched since 7/30, so even if he got back to a rehab next week, that’s probably 2 starts in AA and then a return to Iowa to stretch back out. Probably a minimum 2 more starts there before the Cubs would even think about bringing him up, so that’s mid/late September. They’re certainly not going to rush him and risk long-term health so that he can make 2 starts this year.
 
He has the dreaded lat strain, and to my knowledge has not resumed pitching activities at this time. He'd need to go to Arizona for a few days at a minimum, then return to Des Moines for a start or two to make a credible MLB debut, in my opinion.
Sorry, replied before I saw this. I think we’re in about the same place. He’d need to be throwing bullpens before any game action plus some additional evidence that he’s both healthy and effective.
 
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