*****OFFICIAL TRUMP CRIMINAL TRIAL THREAD*****

[Joes Place]

Tell us then,.. what is the felony crime they are going with?

Srsly?

This is TOO EASY, Cletus!

The indictment charged Trump with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, in violation of New York Penal Law §175.10.[93] Each count is related to a specific business document, each having a date ranging from February 14 through December 5, 2017:[7]

• 11 for invoices from Michael Cohen
• 9 for general ledger entries for Donald J. Trump
• 9 for checks from Donald J. Trump
• 3 for general ledger entries for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
• 2 for checks from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust

The allegedly falsified documents are related to Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels as hush money. The payments were listed in the business records as a legal expense payable to Michael Cohen, whereas the indictment alleges that they were actually to reimburse Cohen for the earlier, allegedly illicit, payment to Daniels.[94][95]

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a felony under New York state law that requires that the "intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof". This is in contrast to falsifying business records in the second degree, which is a misdemeanor that does not have that requirement.[7][94][95] In later filings, Bragg listed three such crimes that Trump allegedly intended to commit: violation of federal campaign finance limits, violation of state election laws by unlawfully influencing the 2016 election, and violation of state tax laws regarding the reimbursement.[96]

Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York - Wikipedia

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Now, you can go directly to NY statutes and the formal public charges, if you want.

 

[Huey Grey]

You can tell who is pulling hard for Trump in this thread.

 

[Joes Place]

Is this the best case they have to put him away?

It's not illegal to have sex with a pornstar and it's not illegal to give money to said pornstar to be quiet about the sexy time.

LOL

If it wasn't "illegal", then why are the cited statutes being used in the trial?

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

I think that term offends most people.

He’s been on ignore for quite some time.

 

[DooBi]

Now, imagine an entire WH full of those "dumb son of a bitches" who do not understand the Constitution or Rule of Law, and just do what Trump tells them to do.

Tack on enough of them in Congress to run interference, and you have the end of Constitutional Law and democracy in the United States.

That's already happened and yet law and democracy live.

 

[Huey Grey]

That's already happened and yet law and democracy live.

That's a grey area statement.

 

[jneffer]

Srsly?

This is TOO EASY, Cletus!

The indictment charged Trump with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, in violation of New York Penal Law §175.10.[93] Each count is related to a specific business document, each having a date ranging from February 14 through December 5, 2017:[7]

• 11 for invoices from Michael Cohen
• 9 for general ledger entries for Donald J. Trump
• 9 for checks from Donald J. Trump
• 3 for general ledger entries for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
• 2 for checks from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust

The allegedly falsified documents are related to Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels as hush money. The payments were listed in the business records as a legal expense payable to Michael Cohen, whereas the indictment alleges that they were actually to reimburse Cohen for the earlier, allegedly illicit, payment to Daniels.[94][95]

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a felony under New York state law that requires that the "intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof". This is in contrast to falsifying business records in the second degree, which is a misdemeanor that does not have that requirement.[7][94][95] In later filings, Bragg listed three such crimes that Trump allegedly intended to commit: violation of federal campaign finance limits, violation of state election laws by unlawfully influencing the 2016 election, and violation of state tax laws regarding the reimbursement.[96]

Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now, you can go directly to NY statutes and the formal public charges, if you want.

i don't know what point people think they're making by not understanding things that have been explained repeatedly here and is readily available online

 

[Rifler]

spending money for the benefit of your campaign, but not declaring it is a violation of campaign finance laws

I think you are correct, that this is essentially what it's coming down to. However, this path appears to present (2) problems for the prosecution...

1. How does one prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the payment to Daniels was done solely in support of Trump's presidential campaign? That Trump had zero personal concern about this story getting out.

2. The campaign finance laws that I'm familiar with are federal statutes, not enforceable by the State of New York.

 

[DooBi]

That's a grey area statement.

Only to you dirty Canadians.

 

[Joes Place]

That's already happened and yet law and democracy live.

No; there were people left who stood up for Rule of Law

Trump will not make that same mistake, twice.

 

[Joes Place]

1. How does one prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the payment to Daniels was done solely in support of Trump's presidential campaign?

Multiple eyewitnesses have testified to that point, if you'd bothered to review what's going on during the trial

 

[Rifler]

Srsly?

This is TOO EASY, Cletus!

The indictment charged Trump with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, in violation of New York Penal Law §175.10.[93] Each count is related to a specific business document, each having a date ranging from February 14 through December 5, 2017:[7]

• 11 for invoices from Michael Cohen
• 9 for general ledger entries for Donald J. Trump
• 9 for checks from Donald J. Trump
• 3 for general ledger entries for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
• 2 for checks from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust

The allegedly falsified documents are related to Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels as hush money. The payments were listed in the business records as a legal expense payable to Michael Cohen, whereas the indictment alleges that they were actually to reimburse Cohen for the earlier, allegedly illicit, payment to Daniels.[94][95]

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a felony under New York state law that requires that the "intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof". This is in contrast to falsifying business records in the second degree, which is a misdemeanor that does not have that requirement.[7][94][95] In later filings, Bragg listed three such crimes that Trump allegedly intended to commit: violation of federal campaign finance limits, violation of state election laws by unlawfully influencing the 2016 election, and violation of state tax laws regarding the reimbursement.[96]

Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now, you can go directly to NY statutes and the formal public charges, if you want.

So I can see that you don't know what the "other crime" is either,.. Nice cut and paste though.

 

[Tom Paris]

So not this case then...

This is a case against your cult leader. The classified documents case is the better case.

 

[Rifler]

Multiple eyewitnesses have testified to that point, if you'd bothered to review what's going on during the trial

I've watched it,.. Perhaps you missed the multiple witnesses who testified that Trump was concerned about his wife and family hearing this story.

 

[funksouljon]

I think you are correct, that this is essentially what it's coming down to. However, this path appears to present (2) problems for the prosecution...

1. How does one prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the payment to Daniels was done solely in support of Trump's presidential campaign? That Trump had zero personal concern about this story getting out.

2. The campaign finance laws that I'm familiar with are federal statutes, not enforceable by the State of New York.

It couldn't hurt for Trump to just take the stand and say that in his defense.....

 

[nelly02]

So not this case then...

The fact we have to differentiate should tell you something... but nope. Rs go into zombie mode " must defend trump. Biden old" 🧟‍♂️

 

[Tom Paris]

That's already happened and yet law and democracy live.

Why do you refuse to comprehend that we are in uncharted waters with what Trump/MAGA want to do to the government compared to anything else that's possibly in your head, historically? It truly comes across like Trump is nothing more than same old, same old.

He's not. This is different. 1/6 proved that. No peaceful transfer of power.

 

[nelly02]

Why do you refuse to comprehend that we are in uncharted waters with what Trump/MAGA want to do to the government compared to anything else that's possibly in your head, historically? It truly comes across like Trump is nothing more than same old, same old.

He's not. This is different. 1/6 proved that. No peaceful transfer of power.

I'm a man of average intelligence but the lack of critical thinking these people exhibit makes me feel like a God damn Rhodes scholar.

 

[DooBi]

No; there were people left who stood up for Rule of Law

Trump will not make that same mistake, twice.

Why do you refuse to comprehend that we are in uncharted waters with what Trump/MAGA want to do to the government compared to anything else that's possibly in your head, historically? It truly comes across like Trump is nothing more than same old, same old.

He's not. This is different. 1/6 proved that. No peaceful transfer of power.

Derpy do.

 

[Tom Paris]

Derpy do.

So nothing. Per usual with you. Willful ignorance. There's not much worse than that.

 

[Tom Paris]

I'm a man of average intelligence but the lack of critical thinking these people exhibit makes me feel like a God damn Rhodes scholar.

No logic or common sense at all. Conmen LOVE people like that, and we have a LOT of them right here on this board.

 

[tigerguy_]

I've watched it,.. Perhaps you missed the multiple witnesses who testified that Trump was concerned about his wife and family hearing this story.

Link to these "multiple witnesses".

 

[ButtersHawk]

The fact we have to differentiate should tell you something... but nope. Rs go into zombie mode " must defend trump. Biden old" 🧟‍♂️

It is kind of hilarious when you think about it

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Any time I use the term "gay" or "retard" it seems that some gay retard has to get offended by it

 

[nu2u]

I've watched it,.. Perhaps you missed the multiple witnesses who testified that Trump was concerned about his wife and family hearing this story.

The jury will surely feel tremendous empathy for Trump for soliciting extramarital magazine spanking and unprotected sex with a porn star. Donald just wanted to protect his family!!

 

[funksouljon]

The jury will surely feel tremendous empathy for Trump for soliciting extramarital magazine spanking and unprotected sex with a porn star. Donald just wanted to protect his family!!

In all fairness, I've heard story after story where men have slipped and fell into a vagina on accident. Several times. Wouldn't that explain the raw dogging?

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

In all fairness, I've heard story after story where men have slipped and fell into a vagina on accident. Several times. Wouldn't that explain the raw dogging?

Many people are saying this

 

[DooBi]

So nothing. Per usual with you. Willful ignorance. There's not much worse than that.

I have reality. I have evidence that a Trump presidency does not in fact end democracy.

 

[Finance85]

In all fairness, I've heard story after story where men have slipped and fell into a vagina on accident. Several times. Wouldn't that explain the raw dogging?

We should get some pics.

 

[sabula]

Wonder how Melania is dealing with the serial sex abuser and cheater? Man, she could have loaded up on more shoes and dresses with the cash that's getting drained to Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser's law firms trying to figure out ways to defend his acts.

 

[Tom Paris]

I have reality. I have evidence that a Trump presidency does not in fact end democracy.

1930s Germany and the Beer Hall Putsch doesn't agree with your confidence.

You find him to be zero threat. What if you're wrong?

 

[hawkirugged17]

 

[B1GDeal]

We should get some pics.

If this happened to Hart now he'd be a lock for the white house! Oh, and wood! Don't blame the man at all.

 

[drew_hawk]

I have reality. I have evidence that a Trump presidency does not in fact end democracy.

So by that logic we could also say that a person whom had survived say a meth habit and gotten clean should be able to go ahead and assume that they would survive a relapse, and therefore should see no danger in resuming their former meth habit?

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

If this happened to Hart now he'd be a lock for the white house! Oh, and wood! Don't blame the man at all.

Drump would say he never met her….

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

So by that logic we could also say that a person whom had survived a meth habit and gotten clean should be able to go ahead and assume that they would survive a relapse, and therefore should see no danger in resuming their former meth habit?

I survived a Biden presidency as well. Flourished actually….

 

[Rifler]

I survived a Biden presidency as well. Flourished actually….

Not over yet,.. you could still sustain a bad outcome.

 

[Huey Grey]

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Holy Christ, the GOP is broken. This has got to be a joke tweet

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

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So I would assume the defense will be calling this gentleman as a witness to testify to all this under oath?