Ozempic and Wegovy
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You should hear what they say about our healthcare system.
Not quite true. The drugs are in fact great for medical obesity. And behavior mod is not a panacea in itself
Be very cautious about price stats. There are tons of rebate subsidies to insurers to these. Net health system costs are much less
Not so much pre packaged foods. Mostly increasing yields per acre and reducing costs of production with technology.
And coincidentally today just got a letter from Wellmark. After 2 months of approving Ozempic, they said it was an error and will decline future prescriptions. They said it’s because I’m not diabetic. So after two more weeks, I’m off. Unless they approve one of the other similar options.
Also, I should have added, I have AFIB. The med I take to keep it in check also doesn’t allow my heart rate to go up. I’m not seeing all the benefits from exercise like a normal person.
Also, I should have added, I have AFIB. The med I take to keep it in check also doesn’t allow my heart rate to go up. I’m not seeing all the benefits from exercise like a normal person.
no way dude, trust the internet stranger that says he didn't get a DUI.
Little known fact that many of the young WWII inductees failed their physicals because of malnourishment. The Depression had led to very slim teenage boys who also had very poor dental health as well. Limited diets of whatever could be scrounged up and put on the table.
Before then there was no such thing as a “Food Pyramid” showing how much of each kind of food should be eaten daily. Protein, dairy, green vegetables etc. The term Minimum Daily Requirement didn’t exist.
The 17 and 18 year olds who did make it in were sometimes eating “three squares” a day for the first time in their lives and they came home from the war with their first ever vaccinations and actually weighing more than the day they showed up at boot camp.
Something along the lines of “thank you for parking your troops here in Europe and providing our defense and safety, so we can allocate funds in OUR budget for free healthcare”?
By the way wealthy Europeans come here for serious top notch medicine. Just ask the scheduling staff at The Cleveland Clinic or the Mayo Clinic.
My wife is using the one specifically for weight loss. She was 5’ 8” and 185. But she was all T & A. She’s down under 170 and going off it at 160 to account for the bounce back up 10 pounds that her doctor anticipates. I told her she’s ridiculous for it, and that I am going to end up interviewed for the Netflix documentary at the conclusion of all the lawsuits. There’s no shortcuts in life.
I need the new slimmed down version.
It was the slimmed down version. The thread was 7 years ago 😉 .
Would you say this to a drug addict? Nobody has to take heroin to live but you do have to eat. Addictions are a funny thing. I find it odd that you find it bullshit but I’m sure if we went through your life with a fine toothed comb we’d find some bullshit too.
Lose weight! No, not like that. You need to suffer more!
Obesity isn’t as simple as everyone wants to believe. Medical decisions should be between the patient and their provider. Mind your business and be happy that people are finding success in treating their obesity.
For the record, the first glp-1 meds were approved almost 20 years ago. My husband is on Mounjaro with few side effects but reduced his A1C from 10 to 5.4. And he’s lost 70 lbs so far. He is regularly monitored by his doc and his labs are the best they’ve ever been at 55 years old. I don’t care if it’s “the easy way out”. It’s a way out and that’s the biggest thing. Even if he has to take it the rest of his life.
Obesity isn’t as simple as everyone wants to believe. Medical decisions should be between the patient and their provider. Mind your business and be happy that people are finding success in treating their obesity.
For the record, the first glp-1 meds were approved almost 20 years ago. My husband is on Mounjaro with few side effects but reduced his A1C from 10 to 5.4. And he’s lost 70 lbs so far. He is regularly monitored by his doc and his labs are the best they’ve ever been at 55 years old. I don’t care if it’s “the easy way out”. It’s a way out and that’s the biggest thing. Even if he has to take it the rest of his life.
I could lose 20 pounds fast if I lopped off the ole hog.
Lotta judgy douchenozzles in this thread.
I’ve struggled with weight most of my life. Up. Down. Back up. Back down. Back up, plus a little. Covid, followed by my parents dying one and two years after left me in a bad place. Weight got up to a point where exercising came with a lot of back and joint pain. I’m not diabetic, but am on Zepbound (started this week finally after taking months to find something with available supply).
I‘m also in therapy dealing with my head space, focusing on a quality diet with high protein goals (under direction from a doc) and it’s very much a process. I’m sure I probably just need to splash cold water on my face or stomp on my own foot or something for that toughness edge, but I’m taking the path I’m taking.
I’ve struggled with weight most of my life. Up. Down. Back up. Back down. Back up, plus a little. Covid, followed by my parents dying one and two years after left me in a bad place. Weight got up to a point where exercising came with a lot of back and joint pain. I’m not diabetic, but am on Zepbound (started this week finally after taking months to find something with available supply).
I‘m also in therapy dealing with my head space, focusing on a quality diet with high protein goals (under direction from a doc) and it’s very much a process. I’m sure I probably just need to splash cold water on my face or stomp on my own foot or something for that toughness edge, but I’m taking the path I’m taking.
Only 20? Someone on GIAHORT just doesn’t measure up to the rest of us.
Your comparison doesn’t make sense.
All I am saying is the body can absolutely lose weight without drugs. It simply takes discipline and readjustment when necessary.
People always looking for the easy way out. A “magic bullet” and the drugs in question do appear to seem like it. If someone wants to take them, idgaf, your body, your choice. I feel there are better ways.
Uhh because you said it didn't make sense, so I thought you might have reasons for saying so, and I was curious what the reasons were.
That's how this typically works, people who know things say something, people who don't know about those things, will ask questions.
Bizarre that you think I should explain your own reasoning to you, I hope you explain that rationale as well.
What do you want me to respond to? Ozempic is not approved as a weight loss drug; the other one is.
I’m glad you posted it and I learned that ozempic is not FDA approved for “weight loss” while it appears its counter part is. Doesn’t change my stance that you can still lose weight without the use of drugs
Yep, many of them are becoming skinny fat. Losing weight but still unhealthy and aren't adding muscle tone.
Our healthcare delivery system is very good. Our healthcare insurance system is totally messed up. It's the insurance component that needs fixing. It's easily done except it would kill all the heavy bribes given to the politicians by the health insurance industry.
I was diagnosed Type 2 diabetic about 16 years ago by my current PCP. A year ago, she suggested Ozemic as my A1c was slowly increasing. I resisted the change for 6 months then decided to give it a try.
I started in mid July, I weighted 216 pounds then. I'm 182 right now and have kind of stabilized at that weight. I'm just over 6 foot tall.
My A1c is down to mid range normal from 7.0%.
My activity is about the same, my diet is the same but the amount I eat is significantly less and I'm not feeling hungry.
Fortunately my insurance covers the cost except for a $40/12 weeks.
When taking Ozempic, you learn quickly how to eat less.
Also, before Ozempic, I'd have a beer almost every day. Now I may have one a week.
I started in mid July, I weighted 216 pounds then. I'm 182 right now and have kind of stabilized at that weight. I'm just over 6 foot tall.
My A1c is down to mid range normal from 7.0%.
My activity is about the same, my diet is the same but the amount I eat is significantly less and I'm not feeling hungry.
Fortunately my insurance covers the cost except for a $40/12 weeks.
When taking Ozempic, you learn quickly how to eat less.
Also, before Ozempic, I'd have a beer almost every day. Now I may have one a week.
Gotta believe skinny people on drugs is a smaller drain on the medical system than obese people.
As someone else mentioned, I’ve read the key is to up your strength training, etc. since it will cut both fat and muscle weight. Very few things are 100% good but sounds like the pros outweigh the cons for this in a lot of people.
