the green revolution of chemicals and pre-packaged processed foods ?This is pre-green revolution. The green revolution significantly increased the availability of calories.
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the green revolution of chemicals and pre-packaged processed foods ?This is pre-green revolution. The green revolution significantly increased the availability of calories.
Europeans describe our bread as cake.I was looking at labels of bread at Hy-Vee yesterday and one package said, "The taste kids love"!. The nutrition label said 5 grams of added sugar per slice. Per... Slice...
Europeans describe our bread as cake.
Not quite true. The drugs are in fact great for medical obesity. And behavior mod is not a panacea in itselfI’ve heard this, too. Seems like if someone could do that they wouldn’t need the drug in the first place.
Be very cautious about price stats. There are tons of rebate subsidies to insurers to these. Net health system costs are much lessI saw where the price of these drugs is going up if it hasn’t already. Average of $1,000 a month.
My great aunt who was very close to my Mom was diabetic and while she was maybe always in need of losing 15 pounds, as is common, she also was never an obese person. She was a nurse and was pretty meticulous about her diet.
Our American diet is a collective of processed foods with sugar and fat that wasn’t prevalent even 40-50 years ago.
PSA’s are still common about smoking. Why are there not lots of PSA’s about not having Big Macs and super size orders of fries in order to stay healthy? Or being active?
I am glad that there are people trying to address weight challenges but I am concerned about the long term effects of these drugs.
Eating disorders are surely a part of the estimated 1 in 5 Americans with mental health issues?
Not so much pre packaged foods. Mostly increasing yields per acre and reducing costs of production with technology.the green revolution of chemicals and pre-packaged processed foods ?
no way dude, trust the internet stranger that says he didn't get a DUI.I’m willing to take that chance. My doctor, who prescribed it, has been on it for over a year. I trust her over you.
I choose losing weight over depression and additional back surgeries.
Thanks for your support.
It would definitely be a permanent fix. 😮I bet you could lose weight injecting yourself with Clorox.
Little known fact that many of the young WWII inductees failed their physicals because of malnourishment. The Depression had led to very slim teenage boys who also had very poor dental health as well. Limited diets of whatever could be scrounged up and put on the table.ever seen an american ww2 uniform of the guys who were fighting and flying planes? holy crap they look like ten yr old boys clothes. a lot less obesity for sure back then.
Something along the lines of “thank you for parking your troops here in Europe and providing our defense and safety, so we can allocate funds in OUR budget for free healthcare”?You should hear what they say about our healthcare system.
Rules!My wife is using the one specifically for weight loss. She was 5’ 8” and 185. But she was all T & A. She’s down under 170 and going off it at 160 to account for the bounce back up 10 pounds that her doctor anticipates. I told her she’s ridiculous for it, and that I am going to end up interviewed for the Netflix documentary at the conclusion of all the lawsuits. There’s no shortcuts in life.
I need the new slimmed down version.Been there. Done that.
It was the slimmed down version. The thread was 7 years ago 😉 .I need the new slimmed down version.
Fine. I guess I’ll search. I’ve only been around 5 or 6. Party pooper.It was the slimmed down version. The thread was 7 years ago 😉 .
Would you say this to a drug addict? Nobody has to take heroin to live but you do have to eat. Addictions are a funny thing. I find it odd that you find it bullshit but I’m sure if we went through your life with a fine toothed comb we’d find some bullshit too.I’m happy for you that you’ve been able to get to a better weight but it’s absolute bullshit you couldn’t have done it without the help of pharmaceuticals
I just did. It’s a red x ❌ now. Sorry, bro.Fine. I guess I’ll search. I’ve only been around 5 or 6. Party pooper.
Only 20? Someone on GIAHORT just doesn’t measure up to the rest of us.I could lose 20 pounds fast if I lopped off the ole hog.
sadgeOnly 20? Someone on GIAHORT just doesn’t measure up to the rest of us.
Would you say this to a drug addict? Nobody has to take heroin to live but you do have to eat. Addictions are a funny thing. I find it odd that you find it bullshit but I’m sure if we went through your life with a fine toothed comb we’d find some bullshit too.
Your comparison doesn’t make sense.
All I am saying is the body can absolutely lose weight without drugs. It simply takes discipline and readjustment when necessary.
People always looking for the easy way out. A “magic bullet” and the drugs in question do appear to seem like it. If someone wants to take them, idgaf, your body, your choice. I feel there are better ways.
Why don’t you explain it to me instead of asking questionsWhy doesn't it make sense?
Why don’t you explain it to me instead of asking questions
I noticed you never responded to my link from the FDA?Your comparison doesn’t make sense.
All I am saying is the body can absolutely lose weight without drugs. It simply takes discipline and readjustment when necessary.
People always looking for the easy way out. A “magic bullet” and the drugs in question do appear to seem like it. If someone wants to take them, idgaf, your body, your choice. I feel there are better ways.
What do you want me to respond to? Ozempic is not approved as a weight loss drug; the other one is.I noticed you never responded to my link from the FDA?
Yep, many of them are becoming skinny fat. Losing weight but still unhealthy and aren't adding muscle tone.My wife said a friend of ours told her one problem is she doesn’t eat any good food either. Sounds like a starvation diet without the pain and suffering.
I don’t see how this ends well.
Our healthcare delivery system is very good. Our healthcare insurance system is totally messed up. It's the insurance component that needs fixing. It's easily done except it would kill all the heavy bribes given to the politicians by the health insurance industry.Something along the lines of “thank you for parking your troops here in Europe and providing our defense and safety, so we can allocate funds in OUR budget for free healthcare”?
By the way wealthy Europeans come here for serious top notch medicine. Just ask the scheduling staff at The Cleveland Clinic or the Mayo Clinic.
Thanks for sharing.Laugh all you guys want, but it works. At one time in my life, Not long ago, was 300 lbs. miserable and depressed. Was pre-diabetic and had to go on meds to reduce my A1C. That was my wake up call and I decided to change. I was determined to not be diabetic. I lost 30 lbs rather quickly by changing my diet. Then I got stuck. I couldn’t lose much more. I’d hover between 260 and 265. It was very difficult for me to break the 260 barrier. I’ve had 7, yes 7, surgeries on my spine, so exercise is difficult for me. I try, but I’m limited.
I started Ozempic Jan 1. I’m down, as of this morning, to 242. I haven’t been under 250 in over 10 years. I feel great and I’m motivated to keep losing more. 220 is my goal, but I may keep going to 200. I haven’t been under 215 in 25 years.
Ozempic makes you feel full. I occasionally find myself ordering a big meal or filling up my plate, then can’t eat it all. One of my biggest nemesis’s was Soda. I used to drink 1-2 per day. I haven’t had a soda or cravings for one since I started. I drink a ton of water per day. The only side effect I have is that I’m not as regular as I used to be. But I’m also not eating anywhere near the quantity, so obviously, less waste passes through.
Some of my weight was genetics. My entire family was heavy. I’m shaped like my Dad and all his Mexican brothers. Skinny legs, large upper body. But most was on me and my lack of discipline. Also way too much alcohol in my 20’s and 30’s.
Right now, Ozempic has been amazing for me.
What dosage?Laugh all you guys want, but it works. At one time in my life, Not long ago, was 300 lbs. miserable and depressed. Was pre-diabetic and had to go on meds to reduce my A1C. That was my wake up call and I decided to change. I was determined to not be diabetic. I lost 30 lbs rather quickly by changing my diet. Then I got stuck. I couldn’t lose much more. I’d hover between 260 and 265. It was very difficult for me to break the 260 barrier. I’ve had 7, yes 7, surgeries on my spine, so exercise is difficult for me. I try, but I’m limited.
I started Ozempic Jan 1. I’m down, as of this morning, to 242. I haven’t been under 250 in over 10 years. I feel great and I’m motivated to keep losing more. 220 is my goal, but I may keep going to 200. I haven’t been under 215 in 25 years.
Ozempic makes you feel full. I occasionally find myself ordering a big meal or filling up my plate, then can’t eat it all. One of my biggest nemesis’s was Soda. I used to drink 1-2 per day. I haven’t had a soda or cravings for one since I started. I drink a ton of water per day. The only side effect I have is that I’m not as regular as I used to be. But I’m also not eating anywhere near the quantity, so obviously, less waste passes through.
Some of my weight was genetics. My entire family was heavy. I’m shaped like my Dad and all his Mexican brothers. Skinny legs, large upper body. But most was on me and my lack of discipline. Also way too much alcohol in my 20’s and 30’s.
Right now, Ozempic has been amazing for me.