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I didn’t call it a duck. Whatever the circumstances, he talked and didn’t take the mat. Now it sounds like it might happen again.
Hawks aren't going to win 184 no matter what. A learning education no matter who takes the mat!
I’d like to see Angelo take the mat and beat him.
Selfishly I’d like to see him wrestle Plott or Allred since they’re home.
How about best of 3?
Van Ness/Parco
Kasak/Teemer
Barr/Buchanan
Win 2/3, $50 to WFL
Sweep, $100 to WFL
You will have to go elsewhere to get the 2.5 action, I'm not offering any alternate lines 😆.
But if i was. it would probably be something line -110/-117
That's a good wager. WFL wins again
Hi Mike, I'll take that action. Give me the scoop on max dollars going out...not sure what total NF means but as soon as you give me the scoop I'm in. It's a good cause and we can both afford to kick a few dollars that way.
What does NF refer to in wrestling?Hi Mike, I'll take that action. Give me the scoop on max dollars going out...not sure what total NF means but as soon as you give me the scoop I'm in. It's a good cause and we can both afford to kick a few dollars that way.
Total back points is what he's talking about.Hi Mike, I'll take that action. Give me the scoop on max dollars going out...not sure what total NF means but as soon as you give me the scoop I'm in. It's a good cause and we can both afford to kick a few dollars that way.
Yeah, near fall in those four highly contested weights. Could easily be 0-0, but hey it’s $50 total to Jim’s cause. I just put the greater of 6 and the counted NF in for a fall because a fall could have been called before the winner “may” have been able to rack up more absent the fall. Sort of same reason meet tiebreaker of total match points comes after fall count - you shouldn’t penalize for pinning.Hi Mike, I'll take that action. Give me the scoop on max dollars going out...not sure what total NF means but as soon as you give me the scoop I'm in. It's a good cause and we can both afford to kick a few dollars that way.
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Still, to be fair and accurate, I would say a "FALL" should only be 4 NF points added to the running total as that would be the max points that could be scored for that particular pinning combination....just my 2 cents from the cheap seats! That or don't count the fall as any additional nearfall points and award falls as a separate dollar value!
I’ll do it whichever way @Nashville_Hawkeye wishes - just comment in advance.
I should have been more clear my friend. I know what NFs are, I was curious as to how we're tracking them in the context of this bet (are we going total against total or $25 for each regardless) and how high the wager can go? My bad for not being more specific.
I'm good with the original wager, Mike. Again, it's a good cause. And truth be told if any of those 8 guys lose by fall one of the programs will feel pretty bad until they get a chance to remedy this situaiton at B10s.
Man I hope Teemers conditioning and game plan to wrestle Kasak works out. It will be interesting the strategy and adjustments from both of them.
Van Ness vs Parco, I know Parco hasn't beaten him but it will be a tough match.
I guess Barr will beat Buchanon because every hyped up Penn State freshman always meets expectations ( sarcasm and false)
Van Ness vs Parco, I know Parco hasn't beaten him but it will be a tough match.
I guess Barr will beat Buchanon because every hyped up Penn State freshman always meets expectations ( sarcasm and false)
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Total against total.I should have been more clear my friend. I know what NFs are, I was curious as to how we're tracking them in the context of this bet (are we going total against total or $25 for each regardless) and how high the wager can go? My bad for not being more specific.
I would place the odds of either wrestler wrestling to expectations at 83%. It took until this year that I found out Mark Hall was making a reference to How I Met Your Mother when he mentioned 83% in that interview years ago:
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In Brunch, Ted points out that Barney always uses 83% when making up statistics. But Barney actually uses it for more than just that. Brunch - Barney claims that 83% of people married for longer than six months are seeing someone on the side Third Wheel - Barney asks if the sum of the ages of...
That’s a crazy great bet that I want no part of.
On paper, that’s a pretty fair bet tbh
I would place the odds of either wrestler wrestling to expectations at 83%. It took until this year that I found out Mark Hall was making a reference to How I Met Your Mother when he mentioned 83% in that interview years ago:
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In Brunch, Ted points out that Barney always uses 83% when making up statistics. But Barney actually uses it for more than just that. Brunch - Barney claims that 83% of people married for longer than six months are seeing someone on the side Third Wheel - Barney asks if the sum of the ages of...how-i-met-your-mother.fandom.com
Really? I thought it was common knowledge.
No matter who wrestles for Iowa at 84 it’ll be a boring match due to how stallocci wrestles. He’ll get up and then stall it out and not get called for stalling once.
I'll offer up a bet of $10 per team point if there are any PSU takers.
(Yes, I expect this to be much more expensive for you. Call it a victory tax. To sweeten it, I'll throw in a $100 bonus if Iowa somehow wins the meet)
(Yes, I expect this to be much more expensive for you. Call it a victory tax. To sweeten it, I'll throw in a $100 bonus if Iowa somehow wins the meet)
That's pretty much how he eeked out his Ws over Kem after getting ragdolled. Boring af.
I say send Arnold and Ferrari out at the same time
You're holding on to memories from a long time ago when he was an unproven freshman. The only other time in his career where he wrestled like that was at nationals last year where he was trying to win nationals on one leg. This year, he has a 100% bonus rate including 2 MD wins against top 10 opponents. When Nelson held him to 2-1, it wasn't Starocci who was wrestling the boring, stalling way...
His first two years in the starting lineup resulted in two bonus point wins over top 50 wrestlers. He has gotten better and the competition at his weight has gotten worse. I’m not knocking him at all. The guy has a will to win unlike almost any other wrestler in NCAA history, but there is a reason that a lot of fans that don’t bother watching him beat up on scrubs have that perception.
The talent level of his opponents matter to make for proper context. Don't get me wrong, Starocci may be one of the best fundamental positioning wrestlers I have ever seen. But, when he wrestle a top notch opponent, he goes back to that almost exclusively. Hold position, either wait for you to make a mistake, do his best to pound on you when you are on bottom or simply try to wear you down all the way until the second OT rideouts.
The only opponent that fits that bill this year is Parker and how many committed shot attempts did he have in regulation? How many total? Simply put, Carter's style isn't a point scoring one. That isn't a knock. In fact, I am probably the biggest fan on here of someone wrestling the way his core strengths maximize his results. That can be true, while still saying his style can be very reserved and he is "content" to win a 1-0, 2-0 match because no one can really come close to scoring on him when he wrestles that way...
No dog in this fight, but you pretty much proved MSU's point with this breakdown. Only one of those results are against a top 5 opponent. 4-2 over Welsh.
Did you just not read or is comprehension not your thing? Of those scores, who exactly is top tier competition? I don’t think even the biggest PSU hater here is hinting that he doesn’t fully dominate inferior completion. As far as I go, even when he does wrestle the close ones, he dominates even those as much as he can because he controls nearly all the ties, doesn’t get out of position, puts on a very hard ride and never seems to tire.
Again, it isn’t a knock. It is just an observation about how his style adjusts to his toughest competition. And I will say Brands is more of a matchup problem in that he wrestles the exact same way in neutral, but can’t keep up on the mat, so you mainly will see a 1 takedown match or a 2-1 or 2-0 type with Certer getting RT…none of which has Carter ever really been in any danger of losing. To do that, you actually have to be able to take him down and that just doesn’t happen when he is wrestling on 2 legs….
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