Doesn't need proof. Just say what you want to get ahead of the narrative. Now the burden is on everyone else to prove him wrong while he moves on to the next lie.
Per CNN Regional Jet crashes in Potomac River
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Trump needs a new journalist to ridicule since Acosta quit.
But Collins isn't a good choice.
She's one of the best.
Merica should be embarrassed he's in the WH.
Yep, it was as obvious as anything this was going to immediately happen. But we elected a clinical sociopath. Maybe whiskeydeltadeltatango will stfu now after calling me out.
Or with this administration work hard to prove him right despite the truth.
Btw there’s no chance they’re letting “dumb dei hires” work inside the DCA airspace. This has zero to do with ****ing atc hiring. God he needs to go.
Imagine if 9/11 happened with this ****wad in charge
The media better skewer him for this presser
The media better skewer him for this presser
Unfortunately we have 3 years and 11.8 months left of him haha.
All the dumbfuks on here earlier complaining about Chris bringing politics into the thread and then the biggest dumbfuk in America blames the crash on DEI. Priceless.
I stayed out of this thread until the press conference, interesting how silent the resident republicans went. Trump now has the deadliest plane crash in the last 24 years on his record.
The group who screams ‘“Let’s not get political” after a mass shooting always go radio silent when the president makes the deaths of 67 political within 14 hours
Im glad there’s jobs to be had around the world. Im actively looking to gtfo now. If we can’t have a leader in tragedy we don’t have anything.
What is almost as bad is there will be flapping heads on tv/radio tonight defending his comments.
And they're all cowards who are happy to pile on Chis, but won't say sh*t when their rapist hero makes it political.
Same feelings for our President who just blamed it on DEI with no proof?
As to the first paragraph, certainly understand what you're saying, but the helo had plenty of time beyond any blind spot moment to sight the aircraft. And if they somehow attribute a blind spot as a cause, given the orientation of these aircraft to each other (about 12 o'clock at similar altitude), then we simply can't have aircraft in this proximity near a congested airfield at night any longer.
As to the second paragraph, I think you're spot on as to a possible cause.
In any case, this sucks.
Ya it’s odd. The broad picture I think we all get now. It’s the details that will be interesting to learn.
Chis tried to ruin this thread and failed but Trump sure as **** succeeded. Smh
Watching that, how does air traffic control not instruct the helo to make a significant adjustment at first sign of a collision warning? It seems like too much trust was put on the helo pilot to adjust on their own?
ATC already woefully understaffed. Hence why Biden tried to hire off the street (same training and standards, not DEI). It’s going to get worse. Why the **** would you work under this administration.
The right wing dumbassosphere is on conspiracy overload right now.
No I was accurate once again. The clueless posters attacking me for being right predictable. ✔️
When was the last commercial plane crash in this country? It's rare as hell anymore.
To be fair, they can both be idiots at the same time.
If you want to compare yourself to Trump yes you were right. I'd say you're both a lot alike. Congrats.
He did this type of shit during Covid all the time. It was embarrassing
2013 was last one I consider (Asiana Air in San Fran). But somehow only 3 deaths.
2009 if we’re counting a major one (eg over 25 deaths). 50 for this one https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgan_Air_Flight_3407
Yeah, I think that will be a proximate cause as well. Factoring in there, you have ATC who sees these aircraft in close proximity every day. You have highly skilled military pilots. And you have an apparent confirmation of visual sighting/separation. All of that together means ATC has its "guard" down a little (maybe even a lot if they believe helo is now in charge of separation), until the last moment when ATC tries to jump back in and send the helo behind. In hindsight, helo heading or altitude should have been adjusted.
This isn’t at DCA, but kind of seems relevant to the discussion. The email is from a private pilot.
For their sake, I hope both the pilots and ATC are white athletic males with high IQs so the DEI narrative goes away quickly.
It won't matter in our post-truth society. It will be there were other DEI hires working that night and the nice whites were overtired from having to pick up all the slack.
would be nice if the political bs from both sides could just move to teh trump stfu thread and be done with it. but i won't hold my breath
I would be shocked if they lowered standards for controllers.
Shut up until you have the proof in hand should be the approach.
Shut up until you have the proof in hand should be the approach.
No I’m really not. There are certain places they aren’t letting non experienced controllers work. That being one of them. Hold on to DEI hope though.
They didn’t. They allowed applicants/hiring into training from off the street. They all still go to okc for the same training program. Going to certified program gets you 5 week basic credit. I minored in air traffic control from one of those programs.
Btw they’ve always had windows for off the street hiring. They fully opened it up because retirements and covid killed staffing.
What if it isn't? What if we have a non white non male ATC that didnt pass the standards prior and they were lowered so as to diversify the force?
ATC standards historically have been crazy high. A friend of mine years ago couldn't pass the standard and didn't get in to training and moved on. This was back in the 90s though.
If the ATC had high scores, high qualifications and happened to be black and Trump is making assumptions then that is abhorrent with a capital A.
Lets try to not assume the worst. I always suspect the best and hate assuming the worst. Many on here that hate Trump are quite the opposite.
Read my other posts before making a jackass of yourself.
I am not hoping for a DEI issue. Quite clearly. I am hoping Trump has evidence for his implication. If he doesnt I am ashamed of him on this.
