ok thanks for clarifying. i used to think that there’s nothing wrong with trading with the chinese in a win win scenario where they get to pull people out of poverty while we get good deals. its however clear now that they are a malign entity set upon acquiring or eliminating the goose (american innovation) by any means. and their behavior wrt covid has been repugnant.My comment was in reaction to a suggestion we ban everything from China. Not about those 3.
Not really. My main arguments back then were (1) that we shouldn't have just handed over "most favored nation status" for free but, instead, (2) should have used our dominance (while we still had it) to strongarm them into behaving better. But neither of those happened.interestingly i recall in earlier times (that coincided with the time frame when i was a fan of trading with the chinese) you used to be a staunch opponent.