Think we’re being a little harsh on Abe. What do you expect from him? He battled hard. AB is a monster. He’s the only guy in their line up that constantly attacks. Abe is making strides. He’ll be fine.
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Agree.
And anyone that still thinks Berge will contribute much at Nattys got some bad weed.
Although I don't like the trend, some of these even matches can still go either way. Last year we took the dual and B1G and lost ncaa's, maybe this year we can get the one that counts the most. No reason Desanto, Eierman, Kem, Warner can't win those.
OK I would've thought more like a B, but even still, C to F for giving up a last second turn seems harsh IMO.
For a third stringer against a 6th year returning 4th place finisher, I'd say they are.
Kinda like your(psu) 125, 133, 149, 157, and 165 who all deserve an F.
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Then I think you would be making a mistake. There is a learning opportunity to every situation. CHA is a unique experience.
Not a single attempt??? Lol! How touched in the head or just plain blind must one be to have that take? My God.
4 less idiots inside Carver. Thanks!
We were saying the same thing. Berge clearly wanted no part of Alex from the first whistle.
No you’re not - at least with me. The Hawks had two dominant wins and two others though close, were not really threatened. Penn State had two dominant wins, with one of those over a back up of a back up. The other four could go either way. I thought Desanto out wrestled RBY. Eierman got sloppy in OT. Kem, well there’s that. Warner had it and gassed. I like their chances in March.
wrong. Rewatch the match. He was in on the legs a couple times. Respectable showing by Assad and Brooks was frustrated he could not do more. If you want to highlight a match of not trying to score, look at the tape of the 133 pound match. Bravo did nothing the entire match but hang on. Should have been one more stalling call on him, at least. He won a scramble and then hung on to win. If Iowa gets healthy, this could be one of the great NCAAs of all-time. PSU fans should keep in mind that the NCAA tourney would have been a done deal with Spencer Lee Wrestling. Tough break for Hawks and a big gift for PSU.
And please, I really do not think any Penn State fans should be on this site lecturing Iowa fans on moral behavior. They should let that sleeping dog stay sleeping..
What opposing fans anywhere have not experienced crap from the home fans? If were a Penn State fan, I would keep my mouth shut in regard to any moral judgements. Your athletic department should be trying to operate without football. If any program ever deserved the death penalty, it was PSU football.
Thanks to you and Vak for keeping it down on themat BTW. I've always liked how you conduct yourself.
I gotta come clean Art, that musket line I heard from Vakattack 2 days ago but it was good!
I can’t speak for how the B1G assigns officials but in some cases when officials are assigned by the conference they can accept or decline. For instance an official in the Mountain West may decline an assignment for Wyoming but accept one for Hawaii. Not saying a destination is always the trigger, but perhaps there are officials who don’t want to officiate at CHA and Rivera clearly loves the attention so he would accept every time. Not saying this is happening.
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I also think Cass's weight loss this time actually helped.
He seemed more agile as he got out of that single leg. Pretty quick.
He seemed more agile as he got out of that single leg. Pretty quick.
We'll take that as good news. Don't let the door . . .
I seriously can't understand this unending defense of a kid that is in over his head?
You have to be a family friend or relative.
What you responded to was my comparison that he has shown no urgency or attempts to score all season.
I guess he's better than forfeiting the weight.
This makes all the sense in the world, actually. I'm 100% positive he'll take the opportunity to screw Iowa every chance he gets. Shouldn't teams also have the option of declining officials?
It was a couple years ago (and in reference to Angel, who wouldve thought) when I had this conversation with somebody in the know, but it sounded like reffing is a bit of a gentleman's club and specifically refusing a ref is tricky business, and opens the door for you to receive a whole new level of biased officiating.
Angel is an awful referee and has no business being a D1 referee. But with the current rules, we’re leaving too much control in the referees hands to determine results. A referee should never determine who wins a match. I’m also getting tired of watching wrestlers clam up, stall, and try to scheme the system. It took us 6 matches last night to see a 1st period takedown. How does that promote the great sport of wrestling? Here are a couple of rule changes I think need happen to promote activity and give referees less of a chance to determine the winner. Heck, both coaches were even disappointed in the performance last night.
1. Absolutely needs to be a step out point. Stay in the dang center of the mat and wrestle.
2. No more choosing top and bottom between periods. If you’re good on top then go get a takedown. I’ve watched enough spiral riding, double boots, and hooking the ankle to last me a couple lifetimes.
3. If you get a takedown, 30 seconds down on the mat before standing both wrestlers up. Lets end full period rideouts with absolutely no activity. For you 1 point riding time lovers, go get two takedowns then.
4. Get rid of the escape point. You can reverse the wrestler still, but I’m tired of watching referees incorrectly and inconsistently call stalling, start the 5 count rule, or miss lock hands. If the referee thinks there’s stalling, stand the wrestlers up. If a wrestler is just holding on or drops down, stand the wrestlers up. The constant stoppages in matches to review this stuff is getting ridiculous.
5. Lastly, get rid of the 2nd referee since they do absolutely nothing and no more of the head referee reviewing their own call. Replace them with a separate crew at a remote location that can review the calls made by the head referee. I understand not all programs can have this for all duals, but it’s a must for the big time meets and programs, conference championships, and NCAA’s.
1. Absolutely needs to be a step out point. Stay in the dang center of the mat and wrestle.
2. No more choosing top and bottom between periods. If you’re good on top then go get a takedown. I’ve watched enough spiral riding, double boots, and hooking the ankle to last me a couple lifetimes.
3. If you get a takedown, 30 seconds down on the mat before standing both wrestlers up. Lets end full period rideouts with absolutely no activity. For you 1 point riding time lovers, go get two takedowns then.
4. Get rid of the escape point. You can reverse the wrestler still, but I’m tired of watching referees incorrectly and inconsistently call stalling, start the 5 count rule, or miss lock hands. If the referee thinks there’s stalling, stand the wrestlers up. If a wrestler is just holding on or drops down, stand the wrestlers up. The constant stoppages in matches to review this stuff is getting ridiculous.
5. Lastly, get rid of the 2nd referee since they do absolutely nothing and no more of the head referee reviewing their own call. Replace them with a separate crew at a remote location that can review the calls made by the head referee. I understand not all programs can have this for all duals, but it’s a must for the big time meets and programs, conference championships, and NCAA’s.
We, Penn St fans feel exactly the same about Rivera. He is terrible. He hosed Dean out of 2 to 4 pts at the end of the 2nd period.
Loser with a new account. How cute. Johnstown again?
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