Rathbun
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He would be in the same position as Suriano...B1G to B1G. One just has to look at weights where there is almost a zero shot at starting in the next four years. Last clue, this individual has not been a starter.
Zero shot of starting next 4 years. Must be a redshirt freshman..might sting a bit.....I say Happel.
Unless those guys can no longer make 141, how do they fit the definition of having almost zero shot at starting?
I don't think I'd put Happel @ 0% chance.. maybe someone in the 165 pound range not named Marinelli...
Man I thought Happel had a really good shot at starting this season. Hope it's not him or any or the others listed.
Would have been out starter at 125 this year, IMO. If what I was told is true, some people on staff need to get a freaking grip.
Seriously, whats going on? Wagner, Rathbun, Ryan and Malcom all transferring. Probably only one provisional starter out of the group so nothing earth shattering but that's a lot of guys leaving in one off season.
That is my recollection too. Vak is being a little unfair to Tom regarding the VT departure. I'd read somewhere Brands was pretty open about his dream to be head coach at Iowa.
Because of PSU behaviors I'll keep my money that I would have donated on their part
Im sure you will start a new thread on BWI about it shortly. Only because you care right?
That's how you ended up wearing the puffy shirt, right? Just kidding Tarp, love your stories and posts.
If Wagner, that's a bummer; may hurt in a few close duals but probably little or no NCAA impact. If he thinks he can AA down the road somewhere else he should pursue that dream; it's not gonna happen sitting on the bench behind Spencer Lee and regretting it. All of these guys are talented athletes with dreams, and it says more about the program that they wanted to be here in the first place (dream big) than that they are leaving.
Last thing and then I'll shut up. Please try not to disparage kids who leave. They dreamed of wrestling for the Hawks, of being the best. I've been teammates and roommates with guys who had the same dream--everyone in the room had the same dream--and most of the time it doesn't work out, and it's brutal and it's heartbreaking and that's just life. It's never a failure to dream big and fall short; it's a failure to never dream big. That is all.
Is it? 4 "room guy types" leaving in 1 year doesn't seem like a lot to me. A lot of guys like that decide they want to see the mat and believe their best chance is elsewhere.
Welp...that's what happens at normal programs when some guys who think they have a shot and find out that it might not be there for them. All are solid wrestlers who should be able to find a good program.
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I don't think he is lying but he is giving his point of view. I don't think Pat Downey is lying about ISU. But he is definitely giving a skewed perspective of his point of view.
I know nothing about this situation but I teach kids this age for a living. Accountability is a huge issues with these kids & I am just saying there are two sides to every coin.
BTW, I heard Logan Ryan got his release to UNI. So Tom has released one to them and one to State.
Being a room/practice guy & going to school fulltime has to be very challenging from a motivational perspective. At some point I am sure it is logical to ask oneself why you are doing all these work & NOT get to wrestle in meets. I think it takes a very tough & selfless individual to stay in that position.
I also heard that Costello will be starting tell big tens than stolls will go.
