Recruiting?
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No, when you get beat by 105.5 points, that’s “smoked”
Both qualify as getting smoked. Getting beat by 105.5 points is just "more smoked"...but I forgot, you come on here to argue as sport, so carry on.
Over the last fifteen years Psu has overperformed while Iowa has underperformed . It’s not crazy to think that Psu could possibly win the title that year while still saying Iowa would be a big favorite .
Over my lifetime I’ve seen plenty of huge upsets in very sports. In 1960, 1969, 1988 in 1990 examples in the World Series. The US Olympic hockey team 1980 comes to might also along with Eli Manning beating the patriots twice and Super Bowl.
I still believe Iowa wins but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Psu pull an upset. And it would be that , a huge upset for that year.
Kind of a dumb take on it.Iowa claiming a 2020 NCAA wrestling championship is no less legit than the 1982 and 1986 football national championships claimed by PSU.
Iowa was by far and away the better team the next year, and won by what 13.5. If all teams compete or if PSU has one more point scorer the far and away better team finishes second.
The 2020 tournament would have been heart wrenching for the Hawk fans.
Extremely dumb take. We won by the rules in play at the time. 2020 was an anomaly.
Your titles are mythical. Decided by votes, not in any sort of formal playoff system.
Also, don't post this, and then this...lol
No but hearing he has it down to 85 schools
Wrong seems to be a position you are comfortable with.
There was certainly voting, but the accepted way of crowning a champ was to vote on.
In 1968, 69 and 75 Penn State was 11-0, 11-0 and 12-0 and not crowned champion. If you used any of those 3 years as your mythical championship then your statement would almost have merit.
In 82 (PSU GA) and 86 PSU UM) the top 2 teams met and played a winner take all championship game. That isn't anything close to what happened in 2020. But like I said, wrong is a position you are obviously comfortable in.
Iowa was slightly worse, PSU was better, and Iowa still locked up the title on Friday.
The title was not officially locked up then, it was for all real world purposes locked up. The only time I saw PSU lock it up on Friday was this year. I could point to some other years too.
All said the tournament was not held in 2020 so while I agree Iowa was the heavy favorite I do see a possibility that PSU could have beaten them that year.
Is it your opinion that we had no national championship winners in football until there was a formal playoff ?
I get more of an ego vibe with Bo than SL.
Nah, football Lion titles in 1982 and 1986 were real and tangible, backed by athletic competition and the recognized process in place at the time. Actual games over the course of a season fueled rankings by 5 arbiters (AP, UPI, USA/CNN, FWAA, NFF). Season ending bowl selection those years neatly matched the top-ranked teams each year (Georgia in ‘82, Miami in ‘86) with the #2 team in all polls (Penn State). Lions then upset both #1’s in direct athletic competition to claim tangible, NCAA-recognized titles by all 5 polling aribiters.
If you need to dethrone all pre-CFP NCAA football champs chosen so unanimously to make your case for a 2020 Iowa wrestling title, do it. While most agree that not completing a sport’s title-granting procedure is the part that makes such a claim “mythical”, it harms no one for Hawk fans to believe that one was theirs. Maybe better, though, to focus on the clear and present prospects of what should be an outstanding team. You have the last word.
There has never been a "formal playoff". The teams were put into the "playoff" by a vote, and you didn't even have to win your own conference championship to be eligible. Total BS.
And your point is? Everyone knew the rules every year they competed and we have crowned national champions. this is nothing new.
Yep, everyone was screwed out of the 2020 tournament. I doubt PSU would have won, but I will say that maybe they would have won, a slim chance. Everyone missed out on individual titles and individual honors as well as team honors.
LOL I can't believe you took the time. It was voted on. That's the key. And yes...it isn't exact. Obvi.
Solid pick up. High upside recruit. Did his twin commit too? I don't see anything.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Ty goes to UNC he has a more clear path to the lineup. Iowa he is behind Gabe/PK and Angelo.
Neither are "elite" recruits BUT they're exactly the type of mid-level recruit I like to see Iowa take a chance on. I think their skillset is a very good fit.
The things they struggle with against elite competition - handfighting, baseline defense, and power - are the things Brands is very good at developing. Long, fast, and willing leg attackers. Cautiously optimistic.
Iowa had 10 qualifiers PSU 7. Iowa had 3 #1 seeds and 2,3,5,7,8 &11 seeds
PSU had 2 #1 seeds, 2 #2 seeds and a #5 seed Rasheed was a #21 seed. Verkleeren #19 seed.
It was literally 9-10 against 5.
I’d like to see your possibilities.
PSU had four champs and two 7th placers in 2021 and scored 113.5. If they had four champs in 2020 and a 5th placer, they would have been hard pressed to score any higher. That's if everything breaks right. Conservatively, Iowa has 130+ points in 2020. The 2020 team for Iowa was slightly better than the 2021 team that scored 129. I'm not sure why people can't just admit that PSU didn't have enough horses that year, or in 2021. Its not like admitting it automatically gives Iowa another title.
For those wondering, I checked Angelo's instagram and he reposted both Miller commitments so seems like he's still on board.
Angelo splitting up from his brothers is a big win for Iowa. Angelo will not hurt Iowa's recruiting like AJ and Anthony did.
Aaron Stewart: Class of 2026, 157 lbs. Warren High School (Chicago).
Stewart is arguably best high school wrestler (regardless of weight class) in Illinois, and should be (will be) on everyone’s watch list. Competition to sign Stewart will be intense.
I observed Warren High School wrestle a summer tournament last week, competition was marginal. Stewart was impressive, exceptionally athletic, solid in all positions, finishes consistently. The University of Iowa should push hard for Stewart, Hawkeyes have deep connections and broad influence in Illinois high school wrestling; Alex Tsirtsis, Cory Clark, Williams brothers, Mike Mena, Anthony Cassioppi, et al.
Stewart is arguably best high school wrestler (regardless of weight class) in Illinois, and should be (will be) on everyone’s watch list. Competition to sign Stewart will be intense.
I observed Warren High School wrestle a summer tournament last week, competition was marginal. Stewart was impressive, exceptionally athletic, solid in all positions, finishes consistently. The University of Iowa should push hard for Stewart, Hawkeyes have deep connections and broad influence in Illinois high school wrestling; Alex Tsirtsis, Cory Clark, Williams brothers, Mike Mena, Anthony Cassioppi, et al.
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I don’t think he wrestles for Cory Clark, but he will be a stud 65 pounder. Ironman runner up this year, but is also very good at football.
