Also that number is somewhat high because OKST really needs a HWT NOW and I don't think Ross plans to play football (or this number compensates for that). However, it probably has set the market for folks like Mocco and Merrill. And I know on good information other schools are shadow offering athletes money, with no real ability to pay, just to drive the price up for other schools. Recruits and rostered athletes (back door of course)
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I think that’s tough because their potential is roughly the same. Kennedy will get you more bonus points but Brands is much more defensive and can always pull out the win
as in someone like ASU offers Mocco $1 mil to make Iowa pay more? crazy times
PK hasn't been able to AA. Nelson was an AA at 174 2 years ago. If Nelson goes out and beats Hamiti that's question is answered. PK has his chances he just hasn't done enough to shut the door on Nelson
Interesting #s. Did you get those from someone close to the situation? Not saying it's not true just not the #s I heard
Both PK and Brands are very good wrestlers, but neither 1 will beat Hamiti........
Oh someone with a legit shot is offering money they can’t pay?
What’s his top 4, Iowa, okst, psu tOSU?
You got 3 of the 4 right, not OKST they got Ross. NCST. And the one offering doesn't have a legit shot and is not in the top 4 but trying to be.
Has Mocco given any indication of a timeline for a decision?
i'd surmise the opposite. there are only X number of schools offering anything remotely in that range. with one of them (OKST) now out, their options (if they are indeed preoccupied w/ the pay) are more limited.
whats the hipocrisy? hes saying a high number that you are refuting?
Has @HerkHawl been critical of you for reporting high numbers of Iowa (maybe he has IDK), if not you can't lump him in with others who have been critical
and if you know what Dreshaun got, then why haven;t you reported that like you do with Iowa's NIL numbers - now is your chance to be unbiased and actually report on other teams NIL
Based on Kennedy's lack of offense and ability to fight off shots over the last month of so, if Brands is healthy going into march he's got the higher podium chance. Sucks to say it but true.
Wait Kennedy’s lack of offense?! Did you watch the Nebby dual? Offense definitely not his problem. He’s certainly had some defensive lapses though. If you need bonus point wins Kennedy is our guy, if you need a guy that can hang in there and keep it close with some of the top guys Brands is better suited.
Yes, his offense against top guys has been a problem. He caught Pinto and put him on his back but aside from that scramble it was a long ride and a bunch of hand fighting. Pinto was gassed and still Kennedy did nothing the entire 3rd and in OT.
There's good arguments to have for Kennedy or Brands, but lack of offense going against PK in the comparison is laughable. Offense is one of PK's stronger pluses comparing the two.
I'm probably being too hard on him bc of the karchla, Haines and Pinto matches but the common denominator in each was when he needed a takedown he had nothing and barely even made attempts. We know he has offense but for some reason he doesn't go to it often enough against the top guys. If your strength is offense and scoring, but you can't or won't get to it vs top guys, we might as well go with the guy at the weight who is harder to score on AND has proven the ability to win close matches as Nelson has.
I believe he lost 18-11, giving up a big 7 point move as time expired. Brands would’ve won or lost by 1 or 2 points. PK has like 10 bonus point wins this year. Nobody (except you apparently) watches PK compete and comes to the conclusion that he lacks offense. Brands is slow, methodical, boring and very difficult to score on. Some of that is possibly due to the fact that Brands is a true 174-lber while PK is still a bit small for the weight.
I believe what he's trying to say is he lacks offense against AA type guys. And at the NCAA you don't score many points for the team unless you AA. He had one 7 point move against Pinto.
If you lack offense against AA type guys, that will generally mean you are not an AA guy yourself. As much as I would like to see Kennedy go and take a shot at being one, I think Brands has the higher ceiling at 174.
See my post above yours. It's a lack of offense vs ranked guys that concerns me. Zero tds vs karchla or Haines, didn't even come close to scoring after he got down vs both. 0 tds or even decent attempts vs a gassed Pinto in the 3rd and OT. Teching UR guys isn't going to get him on the podium in March, he'll need to show he can score and beat top 10 guys late in matches and up till now he's never done so.
If there's one lacking offense it certainly isn't PK when compared to Brands.
Maybe so but Brands has far better defense and has shown he can win close matches against top guys. PKs lack of offense vs ranked guys combined with poor takedown defense, especially late in matches, and I'm going with NB in March if he's healthy.
The B1G decision is, WHO does IOWA send out at 174 in this match? I would love to be a Fly on the Wall when this decision is made? I would assume it has to come down to a wrestle off?
Did Brands’ offense vs an unranked Oregon St. kid inspire you? He scored zero take downs in that match and then scored zero takedowns vs. Stanford. It still amazes me that somehow the last name Brands could be synonymous with snoozefest in the world of wrestling. PK lost to 3 very good wrestlers in Kharchla, Haynes and Pinto. He’s dominated every other opponent he’s wrestled this year. All that said, I’d throw Brands out there vs Hamiti. PK hasn’t fared well vs him in the past. It’s possible Brands could somehow neutralize him and eke out a 1 point win.
Nelson was majored once in college at 184 against Kane at NCAA. He's definitely the better option if your talking about who can score more points at NCAA. Agree with you. Last year PK was majored by Griffith, Carter and Incontrera. Those were the only 3 times he's been majored. Pinto was 18-11
I think you should have led with this -- the defense argument for Nelson -- not pick on PK's offense. We forget that Nelson couldn't score against the top guys either. He was 4-5 against AAs the year he placed 5th, and averaged 2.5 points a match against them. He scored less than 4 points a match that whole year including not AA opponents.
He placed 5th? Sweet. That's AA, right?
Agreed but since those first 2 matches Nelson has teched everyone. Norman from Stanford is #4 with only a 4-3 loss to Hamiti so he's no slouch.
I like the version of Brands I saw in the last dual. We’ll see how it goes against Hamiti…
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