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Reynolds’ voucher program will cost Iowa taxpayers over $200 million in year two

No. It. Doesn’t. You’re wrong. I will try again. With the increased tuitions, poor people still can’t afford the private schools. That is fact. Private schools can still keep out the undesirables.
You if course have proof of this right? Because private schools also can accept students at less than the advertised tuition while also charging the wealthier families more because they have this money as well.

Stick to pumping balls in gym class.
 
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You if course have proof of this right? Because private schools also can accept students at less than the advertised tuition while also charging the wealthier families more because they have this money as well.

Stick to pumping balls in gym class.
How many get in for a discount?

What percentage of vouchers are going to students escaping from bad public schools vs. those who were already enrolled? What percentage of public school students will be able to take advantage of these vouchers?
 
How many get in for a discount?

What percentage of vouchers are going to students escaping from bad public schools vs. those who were already enrolled? What percentage of public school students will be able to take advantage of these vouchers?
No idea. It doesn't matter at all. The money follows the student and that is all that matters.

Tell me....what is the admission rate at Grinnell? What is their discounted rate? How many first generation college students do the admit? What is their endowment and how is that spent? Ever heard of the Iowa tuition grant? I assume you are outraged
 
No idea. It doesn't matter at all. The money follows the student and that is all that matters.

Tell me....what is the admission rate at Grinnell? What is their discounted rate? How many first generation college students do the admit? What is their endowment and how is that spent? Ever heard of the Iowa tuition grant? I assume you are outraged
This demonstrates your ignorance.

When has post secondary school been a requirement?

In the vast majority of cases the public money goes to the student who already had funding for their private education.

And it's the choice of the school, not the parents/student.
 
1. The private schools are just not equipped to handle them.
2. Their current public schools are the best option.

AGAIN- NEITHER are the public schools.

BUT, since they lose the $$ to the kids enrolled in private schools, they have to take money away from the "regular" kids to accommodate the special needs kids.

Which leaves less $$ per student for your 'average' kids, as it is sapped away for special needs kids from a small pool of money.

This has been explained to you many times on here and you still do not seem to "get it".
 
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It was a scam from the start. We all know Kim will leave office and find a way to personally cssh in on this program. She, or her husband, someone in her family will get a board seat, or some grift somehow. Jesus wants her to be rewarded for giving those kids from Dowling and Xavier a shot at a good education.
 
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You if course have proof of this right? Because private schools also can accept students at less than the advertised tuition while also charging the wealthier families more because they have this money as well.

How many get in for a discount?

No idea. It doesn't matter at all.



Make a baseless claim, get challenged, admit you pulled it out of your ass.

You should teach a debate class @hawkedoff
 
3.7 billion goes to public schools
Because “public schools” are charged with educating ALL Iowa citizens who come to their doors. ALL of them. Not a select few or those whose health and mobility are not a question.
Also, I as a citizen have oversight in my public school. I can even run for tge school board, if I wish. I can control/ influence how my tax dollars are spent by the local school. I have no such control or influence how the local private school is run.
 
As they should,.. there is a reason why they are called undesirables.

Right? We should really round up all those Down Syndrome kids, severely autistic kids, those w/ developmental disabilities and toss them into camps or mental institutions. Keep them and their parents from reproducing again to clean up the gene pool, Amirite???

Some dude back in the 1930s was hip on this, as well.
 
Right? We should really round up all those Down Syndrome kids, severely autistic kids, those w/ developmental disabilities and toss them into camps or mental institutions. Keep them and their parents from reproducing again to clean up the gene pool, Amirite???

Some dude back in the 1930s was hip on this, as well.
I despise Kim Reynolds and do not support school vouchers, so don’t take my comment as support.

Public schools in Iowa can and do refuse Special Needs kids. I know of one in SW Iowa, but I’m sure there are others. They simply don’t hire the staff and ship them to other school districts. Over the years we’ve had Special Needs kids bussed to our school from this district. I’m pretty sure they have to pay for transportation and I’m guessing their is some additional funds that follow the student.
 
I despise Kim Reynolds and do not support school vouchers, so don’t take my comment as support.

Public schools in Iowa can and do refuse Special Needs kids. I know of one in SW Iowa, but I’m sure there are others. They simply don’t hire the staff and ship them to other school districts. Over the years we’ve had Special Needs kids bussed to our school from this district. I’m pretty sure they have to pay for transportation and I’m guessing their is some additional funds that follow the student.
Mostly because they don’t have the funding to open a new classroom in a building. We do that IN district. Bus a kid to a different school within because the home building doesn’t have that program.
 
I despise Kim Reynolds and do not support school vouchers, so don’t take my comment as support.

Public schools in Iowa can and do refuse Special Needs kids. I know of one in SW Iowa, but I’m sure there are others. They simply don’t hire the staff and ship them to other school districts.
Other PUBLIC SCHOOL districts.

Be honest on the topic, spud.
 
Mostly because they don’t have the funding to open a new classroom in a building. We do that IN district. Bus a kid to a different school within because the home building doesn’t have that program.
This school has ample money and has a very high tax base. Everyone in this area is aware that this school doesn’t want these kids there. They have the funding.
 
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Because “public schools” are charged with educating ALL Iowa citizens who come to their doors. ALL of them. Not a select few or those whose health and mobility are not a question.
Also, I as a citizen have oversight in my public school. I can even run for tge school board, if I wish. I can control/ influence how my tax dollars are spent by the local school. I have no such control or influence how the local private school is run.
If the private school is shitty, they'll close up because no one will go to them. Can't do that in the public schools, they will just keep getting the funding.
 
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If the private school is shitty, they'll close up because no one will go to them. Can't do that in the public schools, they will just keep getting the funding.
Schools reflect their communities and their values. I have no problem with private schools. I even can justify their role in a community. I do strenuously object to using public tax money to finance these private ventures….ventures that I as a tax payer have no control over what they teach but I am required to support. It’s “bullshit”….
 
This school has ample money and has a very high tax base. Everyone in this area is aware that this school doesn’t want these kids there. They have the funding.
If the parents sued the district I’m pretty sure they would win. Or at least force the district to pay transportation costs.
 
I know a guy in IC who has a buddy on the Regina board. It was confirmed they literally hand pick whom gets admitted based on what the parents profession is. Those of us that aren’t stupid already knew how this grift would play out. There is not poor kids all of the sudden attending private school. It is a joke. It has already been studied in other states that implemented it.
 
Because “public schools” are charged with educating ALL Iowa citizens who come to their doors. ALL of them. Not a select few or those whose health and mobility are not a question.
Also, I as a citizen have oversight in my public school. I can even run for tge school board, if I wish. I can control/ influence how my tax dollars are spent by the local school. I have no such control or influence how the local private school is run.
LOL
 
If their school districts can’t provide good education then the locals can handle.
Program is more for communities where the school unions have taken over.
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I know a guy in IC who has a buddy on the Regina board. It was confirmed they literally hand pick whom gets admitted based on what the parents profession is. Those of us that aren’t stupid already knew how this grift would play out. There is not poor kids all of the sudden attending private school. It is a joke. It has already been studied in other states that implemented it.
School choice should be the law of the land. caring parents deserve to be given a choice where their children get educated and that state should pay the bill for it.

OUR MONEY OUR CHOICE!
 
School choice should be the law of the land. caring parents deserve to be given a choice where their children get educated and that state should pay the bill for it.

OUR MONEY OUR CHOICE!
You just don’t get it. Schools pick whom they want to admit. No way Regina or other private schools are all of the sudden admitting a bunch of kids from working class/middle class families, especially if they are minorities. Clearly, you are a sucker.
 
I despise Kim Reynolds and do not support school vouchers, so don’t take my comment as support.

Public schools in Iowa can and do refuse Special Needs kids. I know of one in SW Iowa, but I’m sure there are others. They simply don’t hire the staff and ship them to other school districts. Over the years we’ve had Special Needs kids bussed to our school from this district. I’m pretty sure they have to pay for transportation and I’m guessing their is some additional funds that follow the student.

That's complete BS, the state should be funding schools sufficiently so kids with special needs can attend locally and access services within their own local communities. Effing deplorable.
 
Schools reflect their communities and their values. I have no problem with private schools. I even can justify their role in a community. I do strenuously object to using public tax money to finance these private ventures….ventures that I as a tax payer have no control over what they teach but I am required to support. It’s “bullshit”….
That's called a free market. If you don't like what the product is then you go somewhere else that you do like. IMO, the public schools have forgotten this and wanted to force the community into what the wanted and didn't listen to what the community wanted. With the new program it give the parents the option to pick who educates their children and not the Government. This isn't 1935 Russia and the smaller the Government the better off the USA is.
 
That's called a free market. If you don't like what the product is then you go somewhere else that you do like. IMO, the public schools have forgotten this and wanted to force the community into what the wanted and didn't listen to what the community wanted. With the new program it give the parents the option to pick who educates their children and not the Government. This isn't 1935 Russia and the smaller the Government the better off the USA is.
Again… I have no problems with private schools. I do have problems with using public tax money to finance them, however. Private schools are independent of state rules and guidelines abs in who they admit abd who they refuse. The public gs “no say” in how they are run/operates. Therefore no “public tax money” should be available to them.
 
Again… I have no problems with private schools. I do have problems with using public tax money to finance them, however. Private schools are independent of state rules and guidelines abs in who they admit abd who they refuse. The public gs “no say” in how they are run/operates. Therefore no “public tax money” should be available to them.
Then you agree with the Government not paying student loan debt off.
 
What do you think public schools are??? They are subsidized!

Nope.
They get fixed $$ per student. ALL students, including special needs kids who cost 2x-4x more to educate than "regular" kids.

Private schools take 100% of the "per student" costs, but can pass on 100% of those special needs kids.
Now, the per-student amounts for regular students at public schools are dramatically lower, because they have ALL of the special needs kids that dilute money available for the regular kids.

The ONLY way you make this "fair" is to require subsidized private schools to EITHER take the same % of special needs kids the public schools have OR you refund a significant % of your subsidy to reimburse the public schools for having to take ALL of those kids.
 
What do you think public schools are??? They are subsidized!
Subsidized is putting it mildly. They are 100% funded by taxpayers who are now demanding choice to avoid the hopeless cabal of educational unions and nearly 100% political party capture. CA just sent another message with their latest LAW regarding sexual identification of students at school again dividing parents (taxpayers) and schools (tax recipients). Big, big changes are necessary for local control to again make sense. The federal department of education is a political freak show.
 
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I know a guy in IC who has a buddy on the Regina board. It was confirmed they literally hand pick whom gets admitted based on what the parents profession is. Those of us that aren’t stupid already knew how this grift would play out. There is not poor kids all of the sudden attending private school. It is a joke. It has already been studied in other states that implemented it.
Interesting. Don’t you think @Pinehawk ??
 
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