The public school is not refusing, they are accommodating the student. And the $$ go where the student needs then to go.
Refusing the student would mean they tell them they have to find their own educational support. Like private schools do.
Reynolds’ voucher program will cost Iowa taxpayers over $200 million in year two
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Refusing the student would mean they tell them they have to find their own educational support. Like private schools do.
Anybody that had any sort of deduction was not paying 9%. I never paid more than 4.7% before the tax cut bill because of all the deductions.
Once your deductions were done everything was at app 9%.
You realize how tax schedules and calculations work right?
Yeah - once my federal and other deductions factored in the first $$ were at a lower rate. Everything after that was app 9%. I got clobbered one year.
And, yet, a public school district had to take in the kid the other public school district could not accomodate.
You seem to be "getting it" now...
Rico……a few years ago, I saw a break-down of taxes charged state by state….all taxes/fees included…..Iowa ranked 26th in the nation in taxation……about right in the middle….
Iowa’s income tax rate was high (Top 10 maybe) but other taxes (property/sales, etc) all added together put Iowa 26th……I would assume these tax rates were lower……
Iowa lowers its income tax rates…….what happens? The state still needs $$ and it will get it from somewhere (tax) else……unless there is a rather substantial cut in services to Iowans. Someone has to pay and the money comes from somewhere…..any ideas? Other than a severe reduction in county government (reducing the number of county seats) what? And by the way……good luck with that idea! If towns hate losing their schools……what do you think when you reduce the number of county governments from 99 to say 20 or fewer? Somebody is gonna scream “Bloody MUrder!”
Yes, taxes are a huge reason people move out of a State.
No. You are wrong. Again.
People move away from Iowa for various reasons, and here are the top five commonly cited ones:
- Job Opportunities:
- Lack of diverse job opportunities and career advancement prospects often drive people to move to states with more robust job markets. Areas like California, Texas, and Florida are popular destinations due to their larger economies and broader job markets .
- Climate:
- Iowa experiences harsh winters with cold temperatures and heavy snowfall, which can be a significant factor for those preferring milder climates. This drives people to move to states with warmer weather .
- Education:
- People move away from Iowa seeking better educational opportunities for their children or themselves. States with renowned universities and better school systems attract individuals looking for quality education .
- Healthcare:
- Access to better healthcare facilities and specialized medical care can be a reason for relocation. Larger metropolitan areas often have more advanced healthcare infrastructure compared to rural states like Iowa .
- Lifestyle and Amenities:
- Many people seek a lifestyle with more cultural, recreational, and entertainment options. Larger cities often offer more in terms of dining, arts, sports, and social activities, which can be appealing compared to the quieter, rural lifestyle in much of Iowa .
Yes, if public schools don't have the resources to educate a student with special needs they must pay for them to attend a program that meets their needs. They also pay for transportation to and from the appropriate school. In other words, the money does follow the child.
LOL - The number 1 reason people are moving by the thousands out of Cali and NY is because of taxes.
WTF are you talking about. This is stupid even at your dumbfuvck level. Millions of Iowa kids have received services in Iowa public schools, including me, my wife, my kids. This dipshit governor is depriving needy kids to fund privileged ones and idiots like you rationalizing the concept is another sign how far this state has gone down the drain.
School choice should be the law of the land. caring parents deserve to be given a choice where their children get educated and that state should pay the bill for it.
OUR MONEY OUR CHOICE!
The vouchers amount is far greater than any parent is paying in taxes going toward education. The $7635 per child is being partially funded by those of us that don't have children in school. If parents get to decide whether their tax money goes to public or private school, the rest of us should also be able to make that decision about our tax dollars. I want my money funding public not private schools.
It's not just your money. Do you pay enough in state taxes to fund $7635 for each of your children?
Are you saying, in Iowa, a student/parent can choose the private school they want to go to and they will be admitted mo matter who they are?
You're a moron.
They cannot. You're ignorant.
How many students that were in public schools last year are being awarded vouchers this year? What is the percentage of all vouchers? It must be pretty high if this is to benefit those who have been having to suffer through public education. So what percentage?
How much will losing white people moving out of state due to schools cost? Elephant in the room. Check the demographics.
People that are willing to move for better education opportunities for their children are largely from a demographic the people behind the voucher program would like to move. What that cost is to the average Iowan over the long term likely isn't a concern.
You miss the point. Leaving no options, people will leave. The Iowa white population is not growing. Minorities are. The voucher system allows families to do school elsewhere.
No racism in that, it's just how it largely work. Illinois has a couple of examples in Havard and Galesburg. Formerly nice middle class area that have a major minority population and the problems that go with that due to poverty and lower incomes. Population drain will be a huge cost to the state governments. Ask Illinois.
We have never dealt with minority issues and this is the result. I read comments on here over time about Illinois dump cities that have crime and gang issues. Moving to an Iowa city near you...
What is missed by voucher detractors is that we do have school issues and they don't get addressed for a multitude of reasons. It is a long term concern. Taking away vouchers isn't going to solve the issues.
I just bluntly framed the problem. Then there are LGBT issue (making the school safe for all is a priority) and if the school goes beyond acceptance to promotion. Same with Planned Parenthood coming into schools to teach about sex education...oh and yes what is the main source of PP income?
Why do people want vouchers?
My SIL is a card carrying member of Green Peace. She had a license plate that had "I'm Green" on it. Then she had kids and put those plates on her SUV.
Where do you see this happening in Iowa? Keep in mind that open enrollment is available to all Iowa students. Parents have been able to choose which public school they want their child to attend for quite some time in Iowa. No one is locked into their home district schools. The only drawback is transportation to and from a school outside their home district, but that problem isn't solved by vouchers for private schools either.
No, now I'm missing the point.
I say this from a place of kindness. It's really hard to decipher almost all of your posts here.
It's a win win for all families. Now many of the families who had to work 3 or 4 jobs in order to scrap together enough to send their children to private schools can use the vouchers and quit working those other jobs.
Don't expect an intelligent response from Rico on this one.
The percentage of voucher $$$ going to parents who were already sending their kids to private schools will dwarf the number of new private school students.
The scary part is Reynolds knows she doesn't have the $$$ to fund ESA past the 3rd year of the program.
All hell will break loose by the 26/27 school year.
I’m guessing that he (or she) is insinuating that if school taxes need to go up, then such monies could perhaps come/be offset from paying lower state income taxes.
Does anyone know the nearest private school to Truro? It doesn't really matter but I'd be interested to know how the Governors school district is impacted.
It there one in Winterset maybe?
It there one in Winterset maybe?
Here's a map of the number of private schools by county.
Number of private schools per county:
Serious question: Have the # of special needs kids/autistic, etc within the state of Iowa consistently increased over say the last 20 or 30 years? My kids are all out of school and it’s certainly been a long time since I was in school; however, I don’t remember special needs/autistic kids being a large # back in the “old” days.
Lone Tree, Columbus Community, Muscatine, Ottumwa, Marshalltown, Denison, Perry...
Fact is that Iowa has elected the Gov they have. I would never vote for someone wearing a MAGA shirt. The fact is that if you are one of those schools, your white child is or will be soon a minority. Not saying it's bad or good, but a fact.
The fact is that those with education and some money will move. They may leave anyway.
But the reasons Kim was elected in part are not so much school vouchers but the reasons for school vouchers.
Iowa's population has been stagnant (white) and the only growth is minorities. Gangs are growing and more mid sized cities will struggle with issues that confront Rockford, Champaign/Urbana, Decatur, Danville, Kankakee and others. You will see it in larger communites and along the Amtrak corridor in addition to meat packing/others.
It's easy to laugh at Illinois, but Iowa will have the same/near the same issues that IL has outside of Chicago.
Focusing on the cost of vouchers is like shutting the windows of your house so it doesn't get wet while an F3 tornado is about to strike.
Calling me racist (which I am not) won't help. The issue needs to be fully understood to be fully addressed.
Thanks. The lack of opportunities to take advantage of the program for residents of the rural counties is atrocious.
Not good.
Reynolds will be long gone before the damage is realized.
Either be Grassley's successor or alcohol destroyed her liver.
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