Right, like you wouldn't scream bloody tyranny when some liberal unionized government teacher marked your kids ass.
SC Cop drags student across the floor in class room
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Why? What do you ACTUALLY KNOW about the "Davenport system"? Please enlighten me. Also...in school suspensions don't work for a large number of kids. Many just laugh at them. Kids who are in trouble a lot also act up in an in school suspension room. Kids are individuals and different things work with different students. If you have a student who you want out of your room, how do you propose a school gets them out? Seriously, what would you do? If the person who runs the school can't get them to leave, what's your suggestion? Just let the kids do whatever the hell they want? Because that's what it sounds like. Do you even CARE that the other students are getting their education disrupted by others who don't want to learn? What about those kids? How is any of this fair to them? So many of you really have very little idea of what you are talking about. You see snapshots and you think you know what's going on...but you really don't.
Mass shootings have increased for many reasons.
I would posit that one of the biggest reasons is that we have a more violent society. And you (among others) would like more violence in the society.
You keep on with this idiotic line about "talking about feelings" if it makes you feel better. There are plenty of ways to deal with a student. Exactly as Myno described with simply waiting until the end of the day and then announcing to the whole class that the student is suspended.
Anyone advocating for LEO's to use force on high school students in a school setting, when the high school student isn't being violent, is a piece of crap, and probably a coward.
The way you eliminate violence is with overwhelming force.
We defeated the Nazis. We defeated the Japanese. Now we can't even beat Islam's JV team.
All this "feelings" crap is why everyone acts the way they do now days.
We defeated the Nazis. We defeated the Japanese. Now we can't even beat Islam's JV team.
All this "feelings" crap is why everyone acts the way they do now days.
You do exactly what the Myno suggested. The first time the student disobeys, you quietly go back to teaching, and at the end of the day/period, you let every child know that the student is suspended.
I'm only like 5% against what the teacher/administrator did. I'm like 90% upset with what the cop did. And I'm 5% upset that our society is so screwed that people who are paid to educate our children (read: you) are OK with an LEO doing this.
Did you just equate high school students with phone/gum to Nazis, Japanese, and ISIS?
Well, congrats on being the most simple guy on the board.
Again, in the adult world, if you refuse to leave someplace after being lawfully ordered to do so, this is what happens.
This girl got the best education ever.
Great. So we're reinforcing our police state at an early age.
Guess what. This girl wasn't "in the real world." When you're repeatedly late or have an unexcused absence, you're losing your job. Should we expel high schoolers for unexcused absences/tardiness?
School is school. Because, well, this might surprise you, but 13-17 year olds are not as emotionally mature as 25 year olds. We treat them differently. We should continue to treat them differently. This isn't that hard.
A minor, who wasn't being violent, was drug away by a grown ass man, whose job paid him to be an adult. Too bad that needle dick isn't an adult, like most LEOs.
Good Lord. You SUSPEND the child for not following directions? I am so thankful people who know nothing about educating children (read: you) aren't making the decisions.
You don't agree with me so you think I must be poor at my job, working with kids. I'm thankful my students and their parents don't share your ignorant opinion.
Yes, if you don't leave after being ordered to do so, a grown ass man is going to drag you away. Welcome to the real world.
You would prefer bringing in an LEO to putting someone into in-school suspension? I got that shit for 5 tardies in a semester. I got it again for not having an assignment done on time. I got it a 3rd time for mouthing off to my English teacher. Guess what? The classroom was less distracted, and no law enforcement officer was necessary. Because my teachers were adults.
Generally insubordination doesn't bring out law enforcement.
Yes, I now do think you're poor at your job.
If you're told to leave and refuse to do so, that's not insubordination, it's trespassing. And yes, that is indeed a police matter.
We seem to have gone to put away your cell phone or I'll nuke you. Tell me more about how much we want small government and freedom. If you're not drinking, you should start. And if you are drinking, you've had too much.
If you don't want to be in school and follow the rules, you're free to leave. In fact, they practically begged her to leave.
Like I said...you think wrong. And you remain ignorant. I love how people try and relate their own "experience" as a student to how a situation should be handled with all students. You really have very little clue what you are talking about. It would be like me telling you how things in your line of work should be handled. Have a good evening.
I'm not sure that's true. It's sure not something we should encourage if true.
Let's be real, the only reason this is even news is because it is a black student. Nobody seems to care what led to the officers actions. We live in a society where people are so willing to throw stones without getting the facts. I would think people would know better by now.
What if she continued to dictate the situation?
What if she didn't allow you to suspend her "in school"?
What if she just continued on with her day, on her schedule, regardless of your wants?
When do you intervene?
Are you against the physical intervention? Or, just the timing of the physical intervention?
Maybe if we actually prepared high school kids for the "real world" we wouldn't have so much BS to deal with from adults who act exactly like this spoiled brat.
Most states allow high school kids to drop out.
And I keep hearing everyone talk about "suspending" her. Isn't that the same thing?
I think physical intervention has its place, but it's SO far from the middle of the class period, unless it's an urgent situation.
Again, as was pointed out by Myno, what is she going to do, if it's done at the end of the period? Show up to normal class the next day? At least then, you'll have had 24 hours to prepare, and you'll probably have the LEO at the class waiting for her.
There is very very little reason an LEO should get physical with a non-violent student.
IMO minors should lose the right to drop out. Instead of pulling her from the desk, chain her to it.
We do prepare high school kids for the real world. But we don't just apply the same standards to 15 year olds that we apply to 30 year olds.
Nor should we.
Honestly when I opened this thread I expected to see a few crazies with their "the police are to be obeyed at all costs" nonsense (I think some moron said that earlier), but the general tenor of this thread has surprised me. People do realize we're talking about a child here right? One who was being non-violent? And a grown, adult, trained, police officer?
I guess maybe I underestimated how some people really feel about violence and law enforcement.
Except you ignore the other 30 students in the class that she is victimizing.
They are there to learn. Why should she be more special than everyone else in the class who are focused enough on their education, successes and future ?
Ok. Well, you can call me ignorant, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who is saying these things, including other teachers in this very thread.
Don't beat any kids tomorrow when you lose your temper, Tom.
I disagree. High school kids aren't "children." They can be vicious, evil monsters.
You have been hitting the Scotch too much if you don't remember Myno's flame-out.
Because that's how the world works?
Isn't that what Tradition is arguing with me? Sometimes you have to deal with adversity. I sat through a meeting this summer while a 5th year associate chewed potato chips with her mouth open, texted on her personal cell phone, and "ahhhed" after every drink of her diet pepsi. No LEO was there to escort her out of the meeting...
Again, if this student was on her cell phone, or chewing gum, those are 2 things that can pretty easily be ignored and it's no distraction.
You know what is a distraction? Having a cop drag her out of school, and the national news at their school for the next few weeks.
Great job by the piggie. Really kept that learning environment in tact!
Lol.
And there it is.
I'll go ahead and disengage with you now, because you're clearly an idiot.
Maybe if someone had forced your associate to follow the rules back in high school, you wouldn't have had to deal with such adversity.
Do you remember high school? Fights, back-stabbing, vicious gossip, slanderous rumors... kids are freaking mean, dude.
Spoken like a true Socialist moving everyone to the middle.
The greatest of us is equal to the least. Classic bassist mentality.
Keep patronizing the weak.
I'm sure they will some day attain aspirations of mediocrity.
Lol. Or maybe I was just an adult, laughed about it, and went back about my business.
And since the head of her group didn't say a word, I'm not sure that anyone else cared. Because, well, you know, these "distractions" probably aren't worth having a piggie drag a child out of her desk.
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