He did two years ago. He has not gotten stronger or improved his shot.
So..who's leaving and who's staying
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IF Cook leaves it will take a lot of optimism away for me looking to next year. I swear this board doesn’t understand that players are actually capable of improving and players like Cook don’t come around very often. If he leaves it will be a major blow both to the product on the floor and just the general level of excitement.
Agreed
He is probably the most naturally athletic player we have had in some time here at Iowa. Now, he does have faults, not great at D and prone to turnovers but those are two areas he can improve in with some effort. It would really set our offense back a bit if he is gone.
I don't think anybody is telling Cook he can't develop his perimeter game. I mean, if anything, Fran and his staff must realize that Cook doesn't get that much attention 18+ feet away from the rim. One of the biggest issues he has is when he is doing some sort of 1x1 move, often times his passing is unorthodox, meaning you cannot anticipate what's going to happen or where he might be passing it. I think this why we often times have disappointing turnovers when he's doing 1x1 stuff. On the other hand, when he gets to the rim, it works quite well.
I'm guessing the one that shocks is Nunge. If you think about it, he really should have taken a redshirt. He's stuck behind Baer and Cook, and with Weiskamp coming in he won't get nearly as many minutes at the 3 spot anymore. And his options to try to come out and play the 5 are limited because Garza's locking that spot down.
To put it in perspective, Cook needs 7 more points to reach 500 for the season and would be the first sophomore at Iowa to so since Kinsbury in 95-96.
Keep in mind Baer is an overachiever...he was a walk on. So, he may not have progressed but he's still delivering more than expected when he joined the program.
The success of 6th man, hustle-type guys like NB relies on a team having decent rhythm to begin with. I don't think he's as effective in a "primary player" role...especially on a struggling team...as when he comes in as the hustle guy.
I marvel at people who are critical of Cook's defense. What is he supposed to do? Contest every shot and be on the bench with 2 fouls at the 15 minute mark of the first half? Have these people not seen what happens to the offense when Cook sits? The whole team is poor defensively, but Cook and Bohannon are 2 guys that have to stay on the court. If that means playing soft D after picking up their first foul, then so be it.
I am not going to name people because that would be violation of TOS, but a certain someone who is a Fran apologist and claims Connor and Weiskamp will resurrect Iowa hoops is also a major critic of Cook's defense. I am curious how this person rationalizes this thought process given Cook is the only player on the team that gives us an athletic mismatch advantage. Cook can't be guarded 1:1 by anybody in the big ten. I could care less if his help D is lacking at times because he is 1 of 2 critical pieces to Iowa having a chance at remaining competitive in games.
I am not going to name people because that would be violation of TOS, but a certain someone who is a Fran apologist and claims Connor and Weiskamp will resurrect Iowa hoops is also a major critic of Cook's defense. I am curious how this person rationalizes this thought process given Cook is the only player on the team that gives us an athletic mismatch advantage. Cook can't be guarded 1:1 by anybody in the big ten. I could care less if his help D is lacking at times because he is 1 of 2 critical pieces to Iowa having a chance at remaining competitive in games.
I'm with you. It would suck if he would leave, but it wouldn't be the end of the world.
I agree with this assessment of the need for Cook and JoBo to be on the floor from the offensive perspective. One of Cook's issues is that he regularly commits one stupid (for lack of a better term) where he pushes someone usually out of frustration about a turnover or not getting a call. This action draws the attention of the officials for future actions too. If he eliminates these stupid fouls, it will help him stay on the court more and play more defense. JoBo on defense is just a liability since he rarely can match the quickness of the opposing team. So yes, we need both of these guys on offense, but the issues on defense often negate the offensive side IMO
I'm not big on ragging on the players either, but some of these issues could be seen by a blind man. Please explain how anyone saying that Pemsl needs to work on his overall game to be a more effective scorer is hindering his development? Did I miss the memo where we are supposed to sign up to drive him to the gym to work on his shot? I'm amazed by college players in general who can't shoot free throws after years of high school, AAU ball and years of college practice.
I wish Iowa would take the Wisconsin model under Bo Ryan and use red shirt more often. Guys like Kriener and Dailey last year or Nunge this year would have benefited greatly. Tough thing with red shirt most guys don't want to and play right away but I'll give Ryan credit for as much as I didn't care for the guy he found the right players for his system and bought into the benefit long term and the results were overwhelming.
IIRC Fran said last year he'd suggested a redshirt to Dailey but left it up to him and he declined.
How is it not tampering ? Even if Cook reached out they should have told Him they cant talk to a player without Iowa giving permission , correct?
If Cook leaves, expect it to be even worse than the Eno de-commit from the football team. We'll be getting a lot of rumors and innuendo on what happened and who is at fault.
If he wants to transfer Fran should block Missouri.
I am completely guessing here, but I have to think the very last thing Cook wants to do is sit out for a year. With continued work on his game, and he has progressed in several ways, the upside is obviously very high, although his height is a limiting factor in the NBA. He will develope playing under Fran better than traveling around the EU.
I think we've seen "what happened" and "who's at fault" is a very...short list.
In a quote to Chad Leistikow Tyler Cook would not confirm that hes staying at Iowa. Said he will take time to think about it.
That would be kind of a prick thing to do. If TC does want to be closer to home...especially when it's to a program that's not a rival in any sense.
Closer to home. Don't make me puke. He's in Iowa, not Iraq or even Indiana (almost as bad) for Christ's sake. If that was the reason for transferring I'd block Missouri just for being such a pussy. But he's not transferring, that is just nuts. He's a sophomore star on a team that returns its top ten players with a lot to prove.
I say if he wants to be non committal to iowa then take his scholly right now and go in search of the best pg available. And then block him from going to mizzu. Screw it, if he doesn't want to be a hawk, see ya
looks like cook is gone, on the bright side we'll get to see plenty more of pemsl and wagner!! 
if he's not gonna honor his commitment, he can go where we tell him he can or he can sit out a year(i think that is how it works?)
give me a break, this isn't his first year!
he sure wasn't home sick until adversity struck!
get real
He has to sit out a year no matter what Iowa does, unless he graduates in May. It would make no sense to go to Mizzou, and sit out a year, but its his decision.
