SWARM CEO Brad Heinrichs Explains why they Currently are Unable to Support the Men's Basketball Program like they Need To
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Imagine what SWARM Inc paid McNamara, All and Brown. And instead of 8 wins, will it get us 10?
I fully believe they will. Cade, All, Anderson, and Brown is huge plus the 2 ol.Imagine what SWARM Inc paid McNamara, All and Brown. And instead of 8 wins, will it get us 10?
There are no excuses, if you ask me.
Road games are always tricky, however. 4 that come to mind:
At Clown U on Sep 9
At Penn State on Sep 23
At Wisconsin on Oct 14
At Little Debbie on Nov 24
And don't forget the guys we retained/convinced to play another season. I don't believe that would have occurred without Swarm.
I thought the players were getting paid because the schools were making so much money off them? It’s not my job to pay these guys. I get it, but that’s my stance on it. I’ll root for a D3 team if Iowa goes down the tubes
I hsve some real faith in an undefeated season. Penn state will be the test. ISU also.
Thanks for your post GHawk. For the record, my earlier posts were in no way a statement against the swarm or his efforts. He is to be commended, and no doubt he's a Hawk fan. It was simply that IMHO "buying recruits" is not going to be something that will level the playing field with the current power brokers, most of whom are the same as they've been for 50 years. I just don't see Iowa, or about 85% of the other P5 schools moving the needle significantly against the current rich. I don't see us winning a bidding war against the elite $$ teams. My hope is that at some point some regulation will be involve to move this back to what the intent of the NIL was. Let companies pay these players as marketers AFTER they have established a brand at their school because of their skill on the playing field.
N.E. Tech. S.U. would get punished if a major got caught.
This is one of the issues I have. Each year fans are expected to contribute to retain or convince players to stay? That doesn't seem right.
It sucks! You basically have to re-recruit and work to retain talent for 5 years for each player.
Never even thought about it like that but f'n 100% spot on.
This NIL is a joke. Just have schools pay every scholarship player the SAME amount of money. Doesn't matter if they are a 5* or a 2*.
To me this would solve 95% of the problems.
Certainly I understand the business advantage and leverage behind donating. I was more pointing to the individual. Just thinking there needs to be more than “this will help us get better recruits”. If we DO that will be evident. If we don’t….are we supposed to give more. Sorry….probably sounding a bit anal.Not sure I'm totally following, but regarding what businesses may get, "The business community can amplify their brand by connecting with Hawkeye student-athletes to promote their products and services. All University of Iowa student-athletes, regardless of sport, are eligible to partner with companies through Swarm, Inc. who may want to leverage NIL opportunities to enhance their business." It's just like with any sponsorship. And it also has the charitable work component, so it makes people/businesses feel better about what they are giving to.
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Hell, put my name on a brick at Kinnick or a tile at Carver.
How long until NIL becomes a money laundering scheme?
If we don't get a big uptick in recruiting, you're still supporting (and retaining) the current athletes and charities.
I recommend scrolling through the Twitter account sometime to see the impact on the student-athletes and the community at large.
you ask that as if it's not already?
As much as I want to see change and regulation to this mess, that will never wash. Paying players for "their brand" is the whole purpose of NIL. The courts decided that players should share in the $$ If their likeness is used to promote the product. I have NO issue with that, but thats not whats going on now, Still giving all the players the same amount has nothing to do with NIL either, and that would just be another mess....
Thats the point. As of now, is there ANY way for schools or players, to know just what the rules are, or most importantly to be held accountable. Wild west for sure......
I'll give money to the swarm when Brian Ferentz is fired.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. With less than 7k followers they certainly need Marketing help. Hope they can make it happen!
Definitely.
The university could give away tickets to people that donated to that amount to the swarm if they wanted too.
That would be a loophole to circumvent title 9 and redistribute all the money they take in from sports to the players that do the work but they don't want to.
They need to figure it out.
There would be a million ways to work around that.
The reality is what we are seeing now was the reason it was always against the rules, because there is no way to regulate it.
It was a terrible decision by the court and the ncaa must of had some terrible lawyers because the fact is the players were in fact already being compensated, no one was forcing them to play college basketball and there are many other basketball leagues a player can choose to pursue instead of the ncaa.
I think just the fact that there is NO way to regulate this is the problem.
Because they said regulations violated anti trust laws which ignores the fact that there are clearly other options to play basketball.
These regulations did not prevent anyone from exercising the option to play professionally.
This is about the point I'm getting to as well.
If what I'm reading here is true, it sounds like possibly Iowa football has half a chance to be competitive with NIL, but the basketball program, not so much, barring a big change.
If Iowa hoops falls behind and can't recruit, then I'm out. I'm an Iowa hoops fan at heart, but I have no interest in following a program that isn't winning. I've not been particularly thrilled with the results the past couple decades even as it is. If they fall further behind? I will surely lose any and all interest. Football, I'd gladly still follow if they can be competitive. Guess we'll see how it all goes, though, for the various programs.
I can hear it now: Why don't I just contribute? It's not that I don't care, but I don't care THAT much. Is there any guarantee that donating will have the desired effect on recruiting? Not really. I'm a long time fan, but spending my disposable income on Iowa sports so that MAAAAYBE they can get a few recruits is something that ranks pretty far down the list of things I want to spend my money on. I have many other interests besides Iowa sports.
I'm not saying you guys shouldn't contribute, but it's not something I plan to do. Say what you will about my fandom.
I think it's probably gonna be hard to get anyone but the most hardcore fans to buy into the whole Swarm/NIL thing, TBH.
The fact that Women's B-ball is more popular for posters than men's B-ball kind of tells us the status of Iowa men's B-ball.
Despite Fran setting Big10 on fire with his 51% conference winning percentage, people yawn after awhile when post season means D.O.A. It's not all on Fran---Lute Olson would struggle at today's Iowa.
I enjoyed the recently concluded Iowa women's basketball season,.. but from my perspective the men's game remains much more watchable, and I believe more popular.
That was part of it, but the big part from the conservative side said that the NCAA was engaging in price fixing labor and that is illegal.
It was a unanimous decision by the Supreme Court and if you look at their reasoning it's obvious why.
I watch more NBA and NFL already. The product is far superior. Maybe this makes me a bad fan, but with my work schedule I was unable to watch almost all Iowa football and basketball games. I was surprised to find I didn't really miss it. The NFL, NBA, and NHL filled the void.
So if you can do only donate to one or the other. Donate to the athletic dept of to Swarm. Which do you do?
Sure is. There is also something called social media and friends. Unless you completely cut off both for 4-8 hours you will know the results and there is no point.
To each his own. I love Iowa football, and now that I'm a totally empty nester make time whenever to watch the Hawks. Probably watched 90% of the bball games as well. As a Chiefs fan living in KC with possibly the best players of all time and top 5-10 coach of all time that is must watch as well. NBA regular season is dreadful. Absolutely dreadful, and I'm a fan of the NBA. Love the playoffs however as everyone is giving their all and it's been great this year.
Nfl and nba are infinitely more watchable products.
The only thing college basketball has going for it is our irrational emotional attachment to our teams and then March madness.
