We're certainly not seeing the Olympics WBB attendance crumbling "because CC didn't make the team"...
The CC Show....
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Shhh. You have to let these things happen organically.
Perhaps. I’m not confident JP can keep coming up with enough new nonsense to stretch it out that long. But I also didn’t foresee jet lag as an excuse for poor attendance, so I suppose anything is possible.
Me?
- You're the one making statements that Olympic basketball attendance will be "down" because CC isn't there (not happening)
- That CC should have been on the team, despite having comparable stats at the selection deadline to Taurasi, who had 5x more international experience
- Now (shifting to) Taurasi shouldn't be on the team, someone else should, but not making any actual comparisons to who that would be.
I'm not the one who posted "low attendance" for an early 9 PM game, only to have that debunked by high attendance at later games, along with overall attendance and viewership "up" because of the quality of the competition and OTHER stars playing who are not named "Clark".
Someone even reposted the Dawn Staley interview to "debunk" me, when that was the video I'd originally posted, agreeing w/ Staley that if we knew how she'd played more recently (since early June), Staley may have lobbied to put her on the team (that is what Staley said in the interview, and I agreed with it).
You're gaslighting the entire thread, Cletus.
The only thing anyone has to do to confirm that you’re once again lying like a little bitch is look at post #s 96 and 101, which were my first two posts after you resurrected this thread.
Of course, you’re also the guy who made up a completely fabricated quote and attributed it to me, so it’s no surprise at all that you would also try to twist my words.
Look, Dipshit, your nonsense is entertaining up to a point. But at least try to do it without all the blatant lying.
As far as I’m concerned, putting Clark on the team wasn’t about whether or not she’s one of the 12 best players. It was about growing the women’s game on the world’s biggest stage. It was about capitalizing on the single greatest marketing gift the WNBA has ever received.
But frankly it seems like they did her a favor by leaving her off. She’s been playing competitive hoops for a year straight and clearly needed a break. This month off will do her a lot of good and she can headline the Olympic team in Los Angeles in 2028.
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A gold medal is a foregone conclusion. The selection process is political and you know it. Taurasi is no longer one of the 12 best players in the league. If it was about sending the best players then Arike would be there.
Dude...you've been pushing those side-arguments here for pages.
All I'd posted was supporting Staley's statement: Clark's numbers improved AFTER they made the selection, and by quite a bit.
You posted data that supported my statement, but then claimed I was wrong about it.
Now, you've shifted away from "Clark should have been on the team" to "someone other than Taurasi should have been on the team".
Why do you keep lying? It’s obvious to everyone that you’re blatantly lying. Trolling, I understand. But I don’t see what you get out of repeated, overt lying.
I lost another pool. The winner is whoever picked
‘Well it was less but it was close’
I was wondering why the 9PM game that got 25k and that proves something but the 13k game at 9PM game was just too damn late to go to a game. Ohhh, it was jet lag.
So DT and Clark were league average, one gets picked the other isn’t considered. The good news is that Clark has gotten better and made it to ‘high consideration’ not on the team, just considered. Yet the ‘league average’ player still starts to ‘make it the best team’
Because in spite of Joe looking like a great defensive back with his backpedaling or the psu fan with the deflections and denials that was what the thread was originally about.
A Joe admitted league average player is starting to make it ‘the best team’
‘Well it was less but it was close’
I was wondering why the 9PM game that got 25k and that proves something but the 13k game at 9PM game was just too damn late to go to a game. Ohhh, it was jet lag.
So DT and Clark were league average, one gets picked the other isn’t considered. The good news is that Clark has gotten better and made it to ‘high consideration’ not on the team, just considered. Yet the ‘league average’ player still starts to ‘make it the best team’
Because in spite of Joe looking like a great defensive back with his backpedaling or the psu fan with the deflections and denials that was what the thread was originally about.
A Joe admitted league average player is starting to make it ‘the best team’
You are the one who has continually brought up different arguments (or defended them) here.
I have made multiple points, but none of them are mutually exclusive. I have not “shifted” my argument in any way. My points have been consistent since the very beginning of the discussion.
So the almost home fans showed up to watch the almost home team? Who would think that would happen.
So we have jet lag as an excuse and then the almost home team. For fear of 'Joeing' this thread....well I won't.
I will just go back to the beginning. How did a league average player make the team and continue to start? That's right, so it could be the best team...........
You could go look at Belgium's other attendance numbers at their games to compare.
Will you?
Um....that IS "shifting your argument. Constantly.
Which is what I'd posted, and you claimed I was "lying about it".
Which "league average" player made the team?
Why don't you post those numbers to support your contention here?
Here's how you do that:
Post WNBA "league averages" for Pts, Assists, TOs, RBs, etc.
Then post those numbers for the players to made the team and didn't make the team.
If you want, limit the numbers to the position players you're referring to.
Staley may have lobbied to put her on the team (that is what Staley said in the interview, and I agreed with it).
Was there another quote that wasn't posted from the interview? One where she said something about lobbying for CC? Not sure I see 'lobbying' in the comment below.
"if we had to do it all
over again the way that she's playing um
she would be in really high
consideration of making a team"
Dude...you've been pushing those side-arguments here for pages.
Things like what's rowing doing to grow the sport? Jet lag? things like that?
I established all of my primary arguments in my first two posts of this discussion. You’re just simply lying. You were lying when you made up a completely fabricated quote and attributed it to me and you’re lying now by claiming I “shifted” my argument.
I don’t know what you think you accomplish by blatantly lying, especially when everyone in this thread can clearly see that you’re lying.
"Ergo: Her performance BEFORE the cutoff was virtually no different than Taurasi"
"Her early league play was sporadic, and "league average". Not "league all star". Since that date, her play has substantially improved"
I am just going on the information that was posted by some poster in this thread.........you may be aware of said poster.
That is what I had posted.
TJ (and you and others) have taken issue with it.
Now, you've finally realized what I actually posted and appear to agree with it.
Correct; others have posted the data.
Which undermines any "clear position" she deserved a spot.
AGAIN: what I'd posted pages ago, that you finally appear to understand now.
NO.
I have been RESPONDING to those "side arguments" the folks you're defending here have been making.
Go re-read the thread.
U.S. women's basketball opening win in Paris draws 3 million viewers for NBC
Team USA women's basketball's opening win over Japan at the Paris Olympics averaged 3 million viewers across USA Network and Peacock.
awfulannouncing.com
It’s not just men’s basketball proving to be a big draw at the Paris Olympics. After Kevin Durant’s return for Team USA in its opening game against reigning NBA MVP Nikola Jokic and Serbia in the men’s bracket drew massive viewership over the weekend, the U.S. women’s team did the same on Monday for its opening win over Japan.
Despite the 3 p.m. ET tip time on a Monday, A’ja Wilson and Co. reeled in an average of 3 million viewers for the 102-76 rout from Lille. The combined mark across the USA Network and Peacock streaming platform was more than any basketball game, men’s or women’s, from the 2021 Tokyo Games.
Going AGAINST the predicted trends here:
Summer Olympics Poised to Have Record-Low U.S. Viewership
Thirty-five percent of Americans plan to watch at least a fair amount of the 2024 Olympics, far lower than what Gallup has measured for prior Summer Games.
news.gallup.com
I misunderstood. I thought you claimed Staley would have lobbied for CC to be on the team. Unless there is a missing quote she didn’t say that.
Which "league average" player made the team?
So you answered your own question
Taurasi is the player.
And I missed when you posted that previously. Can you share that AGAIN?
JP is going to be gobsmacked when he finds out about the time difference between Japan and the United States. It was the middle of the night here when those games were played.
A network whose existence is based on advertising based on viewers is spinning the numbers to make it look the best it can. Color me surprised.U.S. women's basketball opening win in Paris draws 3 million viewers for NBC
Team USA women's basketball's opening win over Japan at the Paris Olympics averaged 3 million viewers across USA Network and Peacock.
It’s not just men’s basketball proving to be a big draw at the Paris Olympics. After Kevin Durant’s return for Team USA in its opening game against reigning NBA MVP Nikola Jokic and Serbia in the men’s bracket drew massive viewership over the weekend, the U.S. women’s team did the same on Monday for its opening win over Japan.
Despite the 3 p.m. ET tip time on a Monday, A’ja Wilson and Co. reeled in an average of 3 million viewers for the 102-76 rout from Lille. The combined mark across the USA Network and Peacock streaming platform was more than any basketball game, men’s or women’s, from the 2021 Tokyo Games.
Going AGAINST the predicted trends here:
Summer Olympics Poised to Have Record-Low U.S. Viewership
Thirty-five percent of Americans plan to watch at least a fair amount of the 2024 Olympics, far lower than what Gallup has measured for prior Summer Games.
Statistics don’t lie I guess lol
My favorite part was “Despite the 3 p.m. ET tip time on a Monday…”.
They somecrazyhow captured more viewers at 3:00 in the afternoon than they did at 3:00 in the morning? How in the world did they pull off that magical feat?
Bottom line is Clark was trending upwards, getting better each week.
And, Taurasi was trending downwards, looking worse each week.
And, now that has really revealed itself, as our starting Olympic point guard has been terrible so far, and is being pulled and benched quickly. They will never admit it, but they made a huge mistake taking Taurasi over Clark. Clark would have easily handled the pressure (both on the court and off), and would have racked up huge assist numbers to Wilson and Stewart, while putting on a show for the international fans. But, the old guard weren't ready to let go yet.
And, Taurasi was trending downwards, looking worse each week.
And, now that has really revealed itself, as our starting Olympic point guard has been terrible so far, and is being pulled and benched quickly. They will never admit it, but they made a huge mistake taking Taurasi over Clark. Clark would have easily handled the pressure (both on the court and off), and would have racked up huge assist numbers to Wilson and Stewart, while putting on a show for the international fans. But, the old guard weren't ready to let go yet.
She did say that in the interview I'd posted. She said "if we knew how she had performed" (later in June) "we may have decided differently".
Go listen to it. She is basically saying "mid season CC probably should have been on the team".
My posts here have been relating to the early season performances, which were not as good.
Correct.
Most markedly so AFTER the picks had been made.
I did not review Taurasi's stats, but that may be true as well (downward trending) for her.
It's in the video I'd posted; (the one TJ is taking exception to). She stated "we may have decided differently" or something to that effect, if they had seen how she performed in later June and July.
Taurasi was not "league average".
Her stats were comparable to Clark's up to early June. Which was also posted here.
U must have missed the part about drawing more viewers than any WNBA games since the 1990s...
U seem to be missing quite a lot here, and eventually agreeing w/ my points and claiming I'm changing my position
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