** The Official FSU @ SMU Gameday Thread **

[LuteHawk]

@goldmom stirred comedic memories of Johnny Carson with
her reference to Funk and Wagnall's porch. Thank You.

As Carnac the Magnificent, a mystic from the East, he could
divine answers to questions sealed in envelopes. These had
been hermitically sealed in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and
Wagnall's porch.

 

[goldmom]

@goldmom stirred comedic memories of Johnny Carson with
her reference to Funk and Wagnall's porch. Thank You.

As Carnac the Magnificent, a mystic from the East, he could
divine answers to questions sealed in envelopes. These had
been hermitically sealed in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and
Wagnall's porch.

It occurred to me that the reference may go over the heads of some of the children (or foreign bots) we have on this board. 😂

 

[LBoogie28]

Does this signal the end of long term (10 years) contracts ?

It should signal no longer working with Sexton as an agent. We continue to get bent over by this guy. You also have to wonder how much interest Bama really had in Norvell last year. Starting to feel like it wasn’t much, but obviously leveraged heavily in the extension.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Weren’t you guys undefeated a year ago? Now fans want him fired? Lol.

Haven't seen many call for Mike to be fired, but rather fire key pieces of the staff.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Condensed game replay in case anyone feels like suffering through this again

 

[DFSNOLE]

 

[TC Nole OX]

Haven't seen many call for Mike to be fired, but rather fire key pieces of the staff.

Most of the assistants, including both coordinators, need to be replaced.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Nolecast Bud Elliot Sunday night delayed reaction video…..he has been the most consistent voice about the lack of talent, non-existent high school recruiting and poor coaching at multiple position groups


10 thoughts on FSU's loss to SMU

 

[alaskanseminole]

Most of the assistants, including both coordinators, need to be replaced.

Quite honestly, they ALL need to go except for Surtain, Haggins and maybe Papuchis (since ST is stellar). The first two on the cut list needs to be Shannon and Atkins.

 

[SeaPA]

The talent level on this team is simply not very good - especially on offense. There's not a single guy on that side of the ball who is a surefire NFL player; at best, there are a couple who might get invited to a free agent camp (maybe Toafili because he's potentially a 3rd down back, possibly Washington because he's mediocre at about every position so could serve as a backup at several different spots which saves a roster spot). I can't think of anyone else who will even get a 2nd look from the NFL. Obviously, some of the young guys could develop into good players, but if they can't win playing time over the garbage that we're trotting out every week, they have a looooooooong way to go.
Defensively, there are a few guys who will likely get drafted, but likely not until middle to late rounds.

 

[OrlandNole]

Quite honestly, they ALL need to go except for Surtain, Haggins and maybe Papuchis (since ST is stellar). The first two on the cut list needs to be Shannon and Atkins.

What happened to Atkins? I thought he was a rising star?

 

[funksouljon]

There are only a couple of guys who were important players who are back this year - a safety and a DE who was the 2nd best DE on the roster. Every important player from last year is in the NFL now

Exactly this. I said it last year at the snub, FSU doesn't have a lot of depth after the NFL talent. They left, the offseason was a miss in the Portal and not a lot of development has occurred over the years. This points to there might be some truth to what Dabo is saying, even if we don't like the messenger.

But lack of depth also showed during the bowl game. The cupboard was empty and still is.

 

[alaskanseminole]

What happened to Atkins? I thought he was a rising star?

Not sure, but look at that abysmal OL. It's like, "DUDE! You've got ONE job!" JT made his OL look serviceable. DJU needs an NFL-caliber line to have time to stand there and gun it.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Exactly this. I said it last year at the snub, FSU doesn't have a lot of depth after the NFL talent. They left, the offseason was a miss in the Portal and not a lot of development has occurred over the years. This points to there might be some truth to what Dabo is saying, even if we don't like the messenger.

But lack of depth also showed during the bowl game. The cupboard was empty and still is.

 

[funksouljon]

Not sure, but look at that abysmal OL. It's like, "DUDE! You've got ONE job!" JT made his OL look serviceable. DJU needs an NFL-caliber line to have time to stand there and gun it.

I refuse to go back and watch any of the old games this season. But as I watched SMU, Byers #63 was bad. He was early season ranked 3rd best lineman with a rating = Jeremiah Byers - 84 But he was getting hustled by SMU on Saturday, a lot.
TN has a rating / ranking that makes us look BBBAAAADDDD..

Making the grade: What the numbers say about Florida State’s offensive line against Cal

FSU’s OL turns in one of their better performances.

www.tomahawknation.com

They are all rating as backup (as a combined), meaning we don't have any starting level Lineman... Whattheeverloving****???

Norvell needs to make bigger mid-season changes that just having Glenn be a costarter.... FSU stole one from Cal, I can see losing the rest of the games at this point.

 

[TC Nole OX]

JCS Monday

 

[jonesy5960]

Most of the assistants, including both coordinators, need to be replaced.

Huh.... Fire everyone but the guy who hired everyone... Makes sense.

 

[LBoogie28]

Huh.... Fire everyone but the guy who hired everyone... Makes sense.

Because paying someone $65 MM to not coach makes even less sense/cents.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Huh.... Fire everyone but the guy who hired everyone... Makes sense.

Head coach has a 65 million dollar buyout

 

[jonesy5960]

Because paying someone $65 MM to not coach makes even less sense/cents.

And people think having this same coach create a winning staff at FSU is going to happen?

 

[TC Nole OX]

DJ Ukulele is likely out for multiple games due to injury

 

[fsu1jreed]

I'm sorry, even if he had zero buyout, I'd be against firing the head coach

 

[jonesy5960]

DJ Ukulele is likely out for multiple games due to injury

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This is going to be a huge blow to FSU's CFP aspirations.

 

[The Tradition]

This is going to be a huge blow to FSU's CFP aspirations.

I can't imagine how anyone could do any worse....

 

[LBoogie28]

And people think having this same coach create a winning staff at FSU is going to happen?

This same coach put together a staff and team that went 13-0, so he has proven he can turn things around. He and his staff won at Memphis as well. Not saying it will happen, but certainly possible.

Do you think it’s a good move to give him $65 MM to go away, and then having to go “bargain” shopping for the next coach (and staff)?

 

[jonesy5960]

This same coach put together a staff and team that went 13-0, so he has proven he can turn things around. He and his staff won at Memphis as well. Not saying it will happen, but certainly possible.

Do you think it’s a good move to give him $65 MM to go away, and then having to go “bargain” shopping for the next coach (and staff)?

Sure. It's not my money. What do I care? It's not like it hasn't neen done. Nebraska had 3 coaches on the payroll at the same time a few years ago. 😃

 

[LBoogie28]

Sure. It's not my money. What do I care? It's not like it hasn't neen done. Nebraska had 3 coaches on the payroll at the same time a few years ago. 😃

Sounds like it didn’t work out…a few times.

 

[TC Nole OX]

I'm sorry, even if he had zero buyout, I'd be against firing the head coach

Yep

 

[jonesy5960]

Sounds like it didn’t work out…a few times.

Well ya know what they say. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

 

[LBoogie28]

Well ya know what they say. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Nebraska hasn’t made an omelet yet.

 

[jonesy5960]

Nebraska hasn’t made an omelet yet.

Well no, but c'mon. It's Nebraska.