The race is breaking

[AuroraHawk]

I have no idea who Plouffe is, but it is what polls were saying.

David Plouffe is a campaign advisor to Harris and managed Obama's campaigns. He's been saying for well over a month that internal polling showed an extremely tight race in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Nevada. He's been very dismissive of the public polling.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

Last week @binsfeldcyhawk2 properly corrected me about polls favoring a "red wave" in 2022 (It was a slightly different topic, but long story short, he was right and I was wrong).

The red wave never happened, most likely because of Roe v Wade protections going away.

Feels a lot like 2022 to me. And there are many educated suburban women who have yet to weigh in.

 

[bunsen82]

So you think Trump will just concede and no states will try to overturn their results? Somehow things will go more smoothly than in 2020?

Probably not, because Trump has put some silly idea in their heads he is being wronged. Unless he loses by a landslide I am expecting shenanigans. Only issue is that Harris is VP.

 

[bunsen82]

David Plouffe is a campaign advisor to Harris and managed Obama's campaigns. He's been saying for well over a month that internal polling showed an extremely tight race in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Nevada. He's been very dismissive of the public polling.

Its close but everything I am seeing is, she is leading in all 4 states, and has a punchers chance in NC.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

I’ve said it all along, women and young people will determine the winner in this cycle, not middle aged and old white males.

 

[artradley]

David Plouffe is a campaign advisor to Harris and managed Obama's campaigns. He's been saying for well over a month that internal polling showed an extremely tight race in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Nevada. He's been very dismissive of the public polling.

Well, yeah, a month ago those states looked very good for Harris, but they don’t any more. That’s what I said, I believe.

 

[torbee]

Last week @binsfeldcyhawk2 properly corrected me about polls favoring a "red wave" in 2022 (It was a slightly different topic, but long story short, he was right and I was wrong).

The red wave never happened, most likely because of Roe v Wade protections going away.

Feels a lot like 2022 to me. And there are many educated suburban women who have yet to weigh in.

 

[torbee]

I’ve said it all along, women and young people will determine the winner in this cycle, not middle aged and old white males.

 

[torbee]

Its close but everything I am seeing is, she is leading in all 4 states, and has a punchers chance in NC.

 

[artradley]

Probably not, because Trump has put some silly idea in their heads he is being wronged. Unless he loses by a landslide I am expecting shenanigans. Only issue is that Harris is VP.

Harris being VP helps, but does not eliminate state legislatures refusing to certify result, which is the beginning of the end.

 

[artradley]

I’ve said it all along, women and young people will determine the winner in this cycle, not middle aged and old white males.

I don’t understand what that means.

 

[bunsen82]

Harris being VP helps, but does not eliminate state legislatures refusing to certify result, which is the beginning of the end.

They will certify the results.

If they don't just wait for those charges and investigations. Might finally be the impetus for republicans to get serious about getting rid of Trump and the ridiculousness of their current party.

 

[bunsen82]

Its looking pretty good, from what I follow, but you never know.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I won't sleep well until Trump is out of my daily news.

Sorry. I served my country . I don't want a dictator in power. You will see massive emigration (yes re-read that) with some of our best and brightest leading the way.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I already have contact with Norway. I would be one of those purged under Trump. Just planning for worst case scenario.

I still think Harris wins

 

[Nole Lou]

Last week @binsfeldcyhawk2 properly corrected me about polls favoring a "red wave" in 2022 (It was a slightly different topic, but long story short, he was right and I was wrong).

The red wave never happened, most likely because of Roe v Wade protections going away.

Feels a lot like 2022 to me. And there are many educated suburban women who have yet to weigh in.

There is an extremely big reason 2024 is very different from 2022, as Republicans found out.

 

[Nole Lou]

I won't sleep well until Trump is out of my daily news.

Sorry. I served my country . I don't want a dictator in power. You will see massive emigration (yes re-read that) with some of our best and brightest leading the way.

Been hearing this since Reagan won. Nobody every leaves.

 

[GOHOX69]

Harris will win going away. Art will still not be convinced because of "polls."

 

[Nole Lou]

This starts a pretty good Twitter thread about where the early voting stands. You can absolutely make a case that this doesn't prove anything positive for Republicans, but I don't think you can even try to make the case that this indicates anything good for Democrats

 

[GOHOX69]

This starts a pretty good Twitter thread about where the early voting stands. You can absolutely make a case that this doesn't prove anything positive for Republicans, but I don't think you can even try to make the case that this indicates anything good for Democrats

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You and art should get a room.

 

[seminole97]

I already have contact with Norway. I would be one of those purged under Trump. Just planning for worst case scenario.

I still think Harris wins

 

[Funky Bunch]

Its looking pretty good, from what I follow, but you never know.

What do you follow?

 

[artradley]

They will certify the results.

If they don't just wait for those charges and investigations. Might finally be the impetus for republicans to get serious about getting rid of Trump and the ridiculousness of their current party.

Have you been awake the last four years?

 

[Nole Lou]

You and art should get a room.

Haha. This is like Gators vs Canes for me. I will hate a lot about it no matter which one wins, and will try to find positives for either winning.

But the political science junkie (not the political partisan part of me which is different) is pretty fascinated by this. These super close elections are fascinating now, the way they will be decided in the margins, like if 15% of black men instead of 11% for for Trump. There's like a million different things.

It's so crazy that neither party can put forth just a normal person with relatively mainstream views and just lock things up. It's truly bizarre how both parties are so attached to ideas and concepts that Americans largely reject. And now are putting the dumbest, least effective people possible forward as well. I mean, I can write a party platform that would get 70% approval easily by Americans. This country is polarized on identity and partisanship, but it's just not that polarized in what they believe in.

 

[Nole Lou]

But the political science junkie (not the political partisan part of me which is different) is pretty fascinated by this. These super close elections are fascinating now, the way they will be decided in the margins, like if 15% of black men instead of 11% for for Trump. There's like a million different things.

Like, here's a better example...like, crypto bros might matter. This might turn on whether Trump has appealed to enough crypto enthusiasts. These podcast appearances for each candidate, where you say "Who?" might actually matter in a race this close.

This race could be swung by crypto bros, or vaccine conspiracy enthusiasts, or or Tik Tok addicts afraid it will get banned, or full on Hamas supporters. Like if the worst of the vocal, clear pro-terror anti-semites decide to stay home, that could tilt the election. Or a couple % of pro-life evangelicals that feel betrayed by Trump. Or some combination of all of those. Its fascinating.

 

[markfromj]

Harris will win going away. Art will still not be convinced because of "polls."

What does “going away” mean here?

(Dolphin doesn’t know what it means, either. The Hawks were up 40-7 and won 40-14. So they did not win “going away”).

 

[Hans81]

Someone has had their cocaine hit.

I have 2 things to do today. Clean out my home office and kick the shit out of some MAGAs with their "beautiful" arguments.


Bring it Trumpers. No holds barred.

F*ck off snowflake. 😉

 

[billanole]

Anyone who votes for Harris is totally fine with trans people molesting young girls in their locker rooms. tom, is that the game you are playing, making up absurd nonsense and spouting it on a sports forum? You obviously are blessed with a lot of class and common sense.

Abby

Anyone who votes for Harris is totally fine with trans people molesting young girls in their locker rooms. tom, is that the game you are playing, making up absurd nonsense and spouting it on a sports forum? You obviously are blessed with a lot of class and common sense.

abby (she) must have a dick, loves to talk about them, expects to see them in a locker room.
Have fun, abby.

 

[Hans81]

Social security benefits get an annual inflation increase via the "COLA" (Cost of living adjustment). If you have other sources of income in retirement:

* Many annuities have the option to include inflation protection, either via an automatic, periodic percentage increase or an increase that kicks in based on actual inflation
* If you don't have annuities but have assets invested, interest rates on CDs, savings, and MYGAs have increased - and the stock market has gone up significantly - resulting in higher income (interest & dividends) and higher principal in your investments; consider using some of that principal increase to buy a SPIA that will provide increased income.

Nice try, but my pension doesn’t have an inflation index. 😳

 

[Hans81]

I'd like to interview Trump, because I'm not a pussy like most of MSM. I'd cross-examine him until he shit himself. There is just SO much to question him about.


Regardless, please folks, vote. It might be your last chance to.

So, you don’t think there will be an election in 2028? 😳

 

[billanole]

20% year over year inflation? Prices are about 20% higher than when inflation started in 2020.

Current inflation rate is 2.4%.

What is Trump's solution to high prices? Is he going to turn the knob for all companies to lower prices?

Don’t forget who was in office in 2020. It was well underway under drump.

 

[Hans81]

Lol. There is racism in America...shown last night at the Nazi rally. There are not trans people molesting girls in locker rooms in America. This is how stupid you are. Thanks for the constant reminders.

lol…just stop with your “Nazi rally” fear mongering. There were Israeli flags there last night, with Jews, African Americans, Asians, Women, men…in attendance.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

It's so crazy that neither party can put forth just a normal person with relatively mainstream views and just lock things up. It's truly bizarre how both parties are so attached to ideas and concepts that Americans largely reject. And now are putting the dumbest, least effective people possible forward as well. I mean, I can write a party platform that would get 70% approval easily by Americans. This country is polarized on identity and partisanship, but it's just not that polarized in what they believe in.

This last part is spot on.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

lol…just stop with your “Nazi rally” fear mongering. There were Israeli flags there last night, with Jews, African Americans, Asians, Women, men…in attendance.

Two places people talk about "America First."

trump rallies and Nazi rallies.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

A month ago Nevada was almost certainly going blue. As were Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Now they are all coin tosses. And until an election goes by where the polls don't undercount GOP votes, I am going to assume he will perform at least 1% to 2% better than the polls. Anyone thinking otherwise is engaged in wishful thinking.

As far as MSG; he fired up his base. You guys keep thinking saying stupid things, saying racist things, and saying vile things hurts a candidate. At some point you have to realize that it helps Trump.

2022 the polls and the media thought the GOP would outperform their eventual tally. The red wave was a major narrative. In theory they corrected for this, but in the very last election there was a distinct polling bias in favor of Republicans that fizzled on election night.

Not saying that will happen here given the corrections they should have made, just pointing out facts.

 

[jonesy5960]

You better hope you are correct because otherwise you will be my next signature quote.

He's correct. At least as long as MAGA is a thing.

 

[franklinman]

Abby

abby (she) must have a dick, loves to talk about them, expects to see them in a locker room.
Have fun, abby.

Thats all Little Abby has, he, she has to be one.

 

[AuroraHawk]

Well, yeah, a month ago those states looked very good for Harris, but they don’t any more. That’s what I said, I believe.

Plouffe has been very dismissive of the public polls. He’s all but mocked any suggestion that any swing state is “almost certainly”‘ going for Harris.

Public polls may say one thing but I’ll pay attention to what those “in deep” in the campaign are saying and watching where the $$$ is being spent and where Harris is spending her time.

I’m still leaning toward a 270-268 victory for Harris. Nevada might be thrown in as well but I don’t think she’ll win AZ, NC, or GA.

 

[littlez]

Haha. This is like Gators vs Canes for me. I will hate a lot about it no matter which one wins, and will try to find positives for either winning.

But the political science junkie (not the political partisan part of me which is different) is pretty fascinated by this. These super close elections are fascinating now, the way they will be decided in the margins, like if 15% of black men instead of 11% for for Trump. There's like a million different things.

It's so crazy that neither party can put forth just a normal person with relatively mainstream views and just lock things up. It's truly bizarre how both parties are so attached to ideas and concepts that Americans largely reject. And now are putting the dumbest, least effective people possible forward as well. I mean, I can write a party platform that would get 70% approval easily by Americans. This country is polarized on identity and partisanship, but it's just not that polarized in what they believe in.

Look, quit comparing the 2. I get that Kamala has kind of been tossed into the fire and I guess you can say she didn’t “earn it.” But basically she’s had more real world experience than Biden and then being the VP. Trump is morally bankrupt. If you think the 2 are equally bad then you’re just wrong. You might disagree with the Democrat party on issues but don’t compare the 2 of them as human beings. One is an absolute piece of shit. And I think we all know who that is.

 

[waterboy4582]

I don't care about you insulting me, but insulting Torbs......you need to find another home lady. You have went from a B- poster to a D.

She knows a loser when she sees one