When hamas is gone then palestinians will have an opportunity to become good citizens and if they choose to create a new hamas, then that will be their decision and they'll have to live with it. At this point palestinians have to prove they're not going to try and exterminate Israel. We'll see what they want to do and they will control their own future. First step, get rid of hamas, second step palestinians decide their future.
So you’re saying Qatar should open their doors and welcome them in and share the wealth?Or, what he's saying is that if you keep taking peoples homes/land and forcing them into ever more squalid conditions while killing their families you'll continue to make new terrorists.
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lol, if anyone is getting exterminated it's the palestinians.When hamas is gone then palestinians will have an opportunity to become good citizens and if they choose to create a new hamas, then that will be their decision and they'll have to live with it. At this point palestinians have to prove they're not going to try and exterminate Israel. We'll see what they want to do and they will control their own future. First step, get rid of hamas, second step palestinians decide their future.
Should they? Sure.So you’re saying Qatar should open their doors and welcome them in and share the wealth?
As others have said, if Israel wanted to exterminate palestinians, it would be over at this point. You have no plan at all to stop hamas. You only plan is for israel to accept the fact that hamas and palestinians should be allowed to kill as many Israelis as they can. My dad used to say, if you can't solve your own problems then someone else will and you might not like the outcome. So until people like you have a plan and ca solve the hamas problem, you're probably not going to like the outcome, deal with it.lol, if anyone is getting exterminated it's the palestinians.
I don't think you understand what ethic cleansing is.So you're okay with ethnic cleansing. Got it.
Hey man, I’m just trying to position an idea that could have lasting peace. All the leftist ideas throw money at the problem and kick the can and do not offer a chance for lasting peace. The two sides will continue to hate each other. Physical separation is the only way to solve the problem. It sure beats eternal separation by wiping them all out, no?Should they? Sure.
Should they have to? No.
Why should Israel get to drive them out of their homes?
FIFYSo you're okay with an idea that actually saves Palestinian civilian lives going forward. Got it.
I don't think you understand what ethic cleansing is.
providing a definition doesn’t mean you understand it.I provided the definition earlier and Israel's goal meets that definition.
They and the Russians. Maybe a better case for Russia. Death toll in Gaza for children is approaching 17k. Then again if they normally die at that rate, Israel is part of that problem. Big circle.It is truly incredible the lengths the Israelis are going to in order to limit civilian casualties. They should be commended.
I’m not endorsing the idea but yes, Bibi can’t eliminate Hamas without killing all Palestinians.I see what you're saying, even if hamas is removed the evil will remain and there's no chance of Gaza to ever be on the good side. So I guess you feel the only way to remove the evil/hamas is to kill everyone, is that what you're saying?
So basically you want to criticize the response without offering a single suggestion to improve?
You want to eliminate Hamas (hooray!) but want zero civilian casualties. Either admit that is an impossibility or provide a suggestion. If you can’t then your best course of action is to STFU.
There are still American hostages being held.
You seem to have this backwards. Have you seen the death counts of this war? It’s the Israeli military that is killing tens of thousands of Palestinians now. Is that your only plan?As others have said, if Israel wanted to exterminate palestinians, it would be over at this point. You have no plan at all to stop hamas. You only plan is for israel to accept the fact that hamas and palestinians should be allowed to kill as many Israelis as they can. My dad used to say, if you can't solve your own problems then someone else will and you might not like the outcome. So until people like you have a plan and ca solve the hamas problem, you're probably not going to like the outcome, deal with it.
Hey man, I’m just trying to position an idea that could have lasting peace. All the leftist ideas throw money at the problem and kick the can and do not offer a chance for lasting peace. The two sides will continue to hate each other. Physical separation is the only way to solve the problem. It sure beats eternal separation by wiping them all out, no?
If moving them to the opposite side of the Saudi peninsula and being given safe homes and food paid for with some Qatari oil money gets the job done then so be it.
YesDo you really believe Bibi’s plan is better? You think bombing civilians—oh, sorry, bombing Hamas who are 'hiding behind' civilians—is a better plan? Bibi’s so-called plan doesn't seem to be securing the release of hostages either. So, you support Israel continuing on this path without any change? What kind of twisted logic is that?
This sounds like an argument from a 5 year old.The Israelis could also move but im sure you won’t like that idea.
Why is it any different than asking the Palestinians to move? Is that not equally 5 year old argument?This sounds like an argument from a 5 year old.
The palestinians started a war, the loser tends to have more casualties. Maybe the palestinians need to to give up.You seem to have this backwards. Have you seen the death counts of this war? It’s the Israeli military that is killing tens of thousands of Palestinians now. Is that your only plan?
So you’re saying hamas is palestinians, and palestinians are hamas.I’m not endorsing the idea but yes, Bibi can’t eliminate Hamas without killing all Palestinians.
When in your mind did that war start?The palestinians started a war, the loser tends to have more casualties. Maybe the palestinians need to to give up.
Nope. Try again. You believe that. I do not.So you’re saying hamas is palestinians, and palestinians are hamas.
We need to let one side actually win wars a little more often these days.The palestinians started a war, the loser tends to have more casualties. Maybe the palestinians need to to give up.
There was a pause until hamas attacked 8 months ago. Now Gaza will have to accept the outcome of their government starting the war.When in your mind did that war start?
You said it not me.Nope. Try again. You believe that. I do not.
I can believe it and I can also believe Hamas forces its citizens to do its bidding “or else.” You’re either with Hamas or against Hamas.This is turning into a scandal at this point. So in addition to the obvious massively overestimating of civilian deaths you now have evidence civilians and even a journalist were holding hostages…
Palestinian culture is a death cult. Those that don’t understand that need to learn how to use google.
Well for starters, there is the fact that:Why is it any different than asking the Palestinians to move? Is that not equally 5 year old argument?
The hill I am standing on is that people that think Hamas can be destroyed are clueless and actually believe that Hamas can be totally destroyed. Hamas is an ideology and cannot be destroyed by people who think a hammer is the solution to all problems.
You are a sad human.Palestinian culture is a death cult. Those that don’t understand that need to learn how to use google.
Really? Who is holding the hostages? It’s the civilians.You are a sad human.
Trump is a civilian. Hunter Biden is a civilian. Therefore you as a civilian deserve jail time and are either corrupt in Ukraine or a rapist. Which are you because you are a US civilian? Think of all the drug dealers in the US. You should pay for their crimes. Mexico should be able to bomb you.Really? Who is holding the hostages? It’s the civilians.
If we declare war on a country, I expect I might be bombed. If I hold another counties civilian hostage, I expect I might be bombed or killed.Trump is a civilian. Hunter Biden is a civilian. Therefore you as a civilian deserve jail time and are either corrupt in Ukraine or a rapist. Which are you because you are a US civilian? Think of all the drug dealers in the US. You should pay for their crimes. Mexico should be able to bomb you.
There are Nazi's in Ukraine (not any more than here as a %), So Putin can bomb you.
There are separatists in Donbas. Therefore Zelenski can bomb you.
You are a sad human.
What you just said was "we". First you wouldn't declare war. The county's leaders were. I suppose you vote Dem or Repub. I am sure you disagree with the parties, but you are in a fairly lawful nation and are so blessed. Many around the world have rouge Govt's or have been taken over by criminals and so forth.If we declare war on a country, I expect I might be bombed. If I hold another counties civilian hostage, I expect I might be bombed or killed.