This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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The average Joe citizen? Yes. Those in real power....No not at all. But that leaves out Russian speakers who don't want Putin but are scared as hell by the far right. Look up Stephan Bondera as well as the far right being involved in Nazi Atrocities in WW2. At Normandy, a lot of who we fought were far right Ukrainians. The Germans didn't trust them in the east. They didn't hate US forces and gave up comparatively easy in France/Holland. SS? No not at all. Wehrmacht? A lot of them didn't want to die for Hitler.
Don't believe for a minute that politicians and Oligarchs want to trend toward US. Some want the Russian mafia held back but don't want to lose control. We could discuss the farmland question and do a deeper dive.
Yushenko wanted more US, but he didn't last and was also a corrupt former communist central banker who married an American with Ukrainian parents. At best the more moderate leaders are still crooks yulia tymoshenko is known as the gas princess for a reason. Comes off as Miss I want Ukrainian freedom but doesn't address her own billions-dollar stolen empire. https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com...ill-fated-deal-still-haunts-the-gas-princess/
Ukraine's Search for an Honest Thief
Ukraine's future hinges on one question: Does an ultra-rich political class always mean corruption?
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So many of you want to conjure up the cold war Commies v Good Guys. Good v evil. Soviets were going to take over the world. Wag the Dog.
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Sad to say this, but ‘negotiated territorial settlement here I come’ is where this is heading.
Sell on infrastructure contractors, but on fms defense contractors.
Sell on infrastructure contractors, but on fms defense contractors.
Until Russia has time to rebuild and break the agreement, right? Ukraine just has to not to agree to any ceasefire to win. Keep hitting Russian oil & gas facilities (50%) of Russia's gdp, and keep killing upwards of 10k Russians a month, and they will break. This is no defense of Moscow invasion. People will wake up and want an end to this.
Ah, I see your confusion. Economic systems are 8th grade material.
You see, when the government owns something, and decides and controls what and how much is built there and how, it is called Socialism, even if they "contract out" (and you should try reading those contracts!) the operators.
Like if the government took over Boeing and Ford and GM plants, decided on all specifications and amounts for all the planes and cars to be made there and "contracted" this to some civilians to put into action.
If the civilian "contractors" don't like the changes to the contract, they are free (market!) to go build and operate their own bullet factory as they see fit. After all, there are several privately own bullet factories around the country already.
Remington built it.
The Army has a contract that stipulates that the people running the facility maintain the capacity to produce 1.6 billion rifle rounds per year.
The Army doesn't buy 1.6 billion rifle rounds per year.
To maintain the equipment and staff to have capacity to produce 1.6 billion rifle rounds per year the company sells hundreds of millions of rounds to the public.
It isn't the government competing with the free market in the production of rifle rounds, but they can and will step in to buy all of Lake City's production when they need it.
I'm sorry you were misled by the authors of the original article to think your tax money was producing M855A1 rounds for commercial sale.
Some of you are way stuck in the old domino theory and way overreacting.
Do you pay your way on the highway? Nope. Did you fully pay for your education? Nope. Does Iowa gain a whole lot from Washington DC's socialism? Yep. Police protection? Nope. Do you pay equal to everyone? Yep. Your 401 K is going up right now because of your good decisions and good old American ingenuity? Maybe if you call monetization of debt and the Govt not making you pay your fair share.
You can fairly go out and start any business you want? Nope. We have a free market society? Probably Russia comes closer with lesser Govt intervention in business (survival of the toughest mafia).
Oh and COVID boosters? Free market....NOPE.
Have you been to college even? and graduated? Hope it wasn't Iowa if it was.
Your biggest funny statement was IF THE GOVT TOOK OVER GM!
Ford, the darling of capitalism for not needing a bailout.... who financed them? Ya it was. Oh and then Cash for Clunkers, another great capitalism intervention... but it wasn't.
To really trigger you and challenge you, can you describe the US system in terms of capitalism, socialism and fascism (from an entireliy economic model perspective)?
Just stop saying dumb things.
Our whole real estate system is about police power. Basically you own nothing in reality.
Do you pay your way on the highway? Nope. Did you fully pay for your education? Nope. Does Iowa gain a whole lot from Washington DC's socialism? Yep. Police protection? Nope. Do you pay equal to everyone? Yep. Your 401 K is going up right now because of your good decisions and good old American ingenuity? Maybe if you call monetization of debt and the Govt not making you pay your fair share.
You can fairly go out and start any business you want? Nope. We have a free market society? Probably Russia comes closer with lesser Govt intervention in business (survival of the toughest mafia).
Oh and COVID boosters? Free market....NOPE.
Have you been to college even? and graduated? Hope it wasn't Iowa if it was.
Your biggest funny statement was IF THE GOVT TOOK OVER GM!
Ford, the darling of capitalism for not needing a bailout.... who financed them? Ya it was. Oh and then Cash for Clunkers, another great capitalism intervention... but it wasn't.
To really trigger you and challenge you, can you describe the US system in terms of capitalism, socialism and fascism (from an entireliy economic model perspective)?
Just stop saying dumb things.
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Interesting note that I learned on Lib TV about NATO. With so many people mad at Hungary, and Turkey to a lesser extent, Richard Haass mentioned that there isn't a way to kick a member out. No mechanism was built into the charter for expelling a member that is proving to be problematic.
I think you should heed your own advice. You think you sound smart, but in reality, you sound like an uneducated rube trying to string a bunch of nonsense together. Your grasp of the world situation is comical at best.
....finish them. Biden is giving GOP all they want on border to get financial aid for Ukraine...
Democracies and free Republics are in danger by Putin.
Give Ukraine the means to win this. Poland should have invoked the charter. It would be done in a week.
Democracies and free Republics are in danger by Putin.
Give Ukraine the means to win this. Poland should have invoked the charter. It would be done in a week.
Wonder if you could have done this with a WW2 era tank without shedding a track.
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Remember when everyone was bagging on the Germans? They've been pretty good overall, the Gepard is one of the better and useful weapons systems that have been supplied.
The Myths That Warp How America Sees Russia—and Vice Versa
How mutual misunderstanding breeds tension and conflict.
Sent by a Ukrainian friend.
Same holds true of during Soviet times. The US under Reagan never saw USSR as a group of paranoid old men. They seriously thought Reagan would go to war. Collision of history and culture.
Aw.....it's like a murderous little Ukrainian WALL-E!!!!
This won't surprise anyone who has visited the Ukraine tweets.
You can see it flush a rooster pheasant from the grass on its journey.
Seems the pro Putin rubes working OT in recent posts to this thread.
