Time for Fran to move on?
- Thread starter CAhawki
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Oh and he's got to develop a bench from game 1 of the season, so that by game the 2nd half of the Big 10 season people aren't seeing their first meaningful minutes. You pick your subs and gradually increase their minutes as the season progresses. Cause if this February fatigue thing is real, we need subs who have experience.
They will be one & done next week. You can just about bank on it.
Unless they're playing IC West. ...and even then, there would be no guarantees.
Be my guest!! A win vs. a reeling Iowa team doesn't change the fact that he's the first Illini coach to miss three straight NCAA Tournaments in 50 years.
Then you don't love it nearly as much as you think you do.
The family dog must have come down with measles or something this year.
"In fact, in 11 postseason games under McCaffery, the Hawkeyes have never beaten a higher-seeded team. Their overall postseason (Big 10 and NCAA tourneys) record with him as coach: 3-8."
Soon to be 3-9. But, hey, he's better than Likliter. Of course you'll be saying that in five more years when his record is no better. Those of you that love him, keep the excuses, I mean reasons, coming; because, after all, he is better than Likliter.
Soon to be 3-9. But, hey, he's better than Likliter. Of course you'll be saying that in five more years when his record is no better. Those of you that love him, keep the excuses, I mean reasons, coming; because, after all, he is better than Likliter.
True, but he's the one not making in-game adjustments either.
Anybody could see that Baer, Uhl, and Wagner were bringing it this afternoon far more than Clemmons and Woody weren't. So you stay with the people who were totally struggling today?
Fran seems to work his butt of recruiting. He needs to hire an asst. that can help close the deal on his number one choices. I do not believe there was a number one choice on the bench this year. Hell, a walk-on was just as good as any of the others. Additionally, Sapp and Gesell should never have been on the floor together.
This is the laziest post I've seen in some time. Anger toned down? What? Mental toughness? You mean like overcoming an 11 point deficit in crunch time?
I really effing hate lazy narratives by idiots trying to find a magic bullet explanation.
Don't think the anger comment has merit. He gets snippy with the media, but he has yet to get a T this year.
3-8? What about that NIT run in '13? They reached the title game; that was worth at least 4 wins. I count 8 wins/9 losses for Fran's Iowa post-season record.
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I don't think it's time to move on but you do need to make some changes. The anger has to be seriously toned down. You need to have/get players with more muscle. You need to investigate this fatigue issue that hits in February. Do something to promote mental toughness and desire.
I really effing hate lazy narratives by idiots trying to find a magic bullet explanation.[/QUOTE]
The only laziness
I really effing hate lazy narratives by idiots trying to find a magic bullet explanation.[/QUOTE]
The only laziness
Of course, it could be argued--quite credibly--that lack of mental toughness is what got them down 11 points to begin with.
The old saying "the great ones always rally" doesn't apply; the great ones don't usually have to rally against teams they should own. And Ill was certainly that type of team.
I think it's time for some of the drama queens to move on from this message board ...
I'm as mad as the next guy but seriously... The same coach we ALL were giddy about 4 weeks ago is the same coach that should maybe "move on."
Seriously people... You need another hobby if you you are ready to turn Fran in already. Yes... There are issues to address. No, Fran should not move on.
Not dogging your post... Just some of the drama queens who are ready to jump off a cliff.
Yes, they were unconscious. Until the B1G tourney, they couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a tennis racquet. For the season, they were ninth in the conference at 36% in 3-pt fg shooting while being tied for last (38%) in defending it. So why now? Against Minny, it was believable, since they were the other team that allowed opponents to shoot 38% from distance. But Iowa was tied for 1st in defending the three at 31%. Ill was very lucky, but Iowa's lack of defensive intensity, and just plain ol' being out of position at times, was the biggest factor. And I believe that PU--a team Iowa swept by double digits twice--will expose the real Illinois team.
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with being mad after a loss. That is why we are fans. Being mad about your team losing doesn't mean there aren't other more important things in our lives.
It's such a stupid argument.
Yeah, I really care but it doesn't bother me when they lose.
That's like saying I really love my wife or girlfriend, but it won't bother me if she walks out on me tomorrow and starts sleeping with one of my co-workers.
You either care a lot and are emotionally invested, or you're not. I'm not going to judge with whichever way you choose, but you can't have it both ways. It is simply not possible to claim that you care about or "love" something, but then act like you don't give a shit when it blows up in your face.
Fran needed to make the decision that they were going to shoot better and not turn it over.
He blew it.
This is just beyond stupid. Awful?
It was awful 5 years ago.
This is the most talent Iowa has had in about 15 years.
Wow, what a ringing endorsement. So we don't suck, so we are great and should be happy to not be Rutgers I guess. Fran talked a big game when he arrived about conference championships and runs in March. He is 2-7 in the BTT, ISU owns him and his brand is soft teams that can't finish games. #futureisbright
Thank you for this post. You and I seem to be the only ones here that understand being better than Likliter isn't really a compliment. Yep, we could be Rutgers or Minnesota so none of us has any business complaining.
I am looking forward to seeing a new crop of players play the next 2 years so I want to reserve judgement until then. A lot of the late game issues and collapses have a common denominator besides the coach and that's the same group of core players.
Watching these guys play down the stretch you just realize they are not that talented minus JU and Jok and even those 2 have limitations. The other guys have serious flaws in their games. So if everyone is not playing with maximum effort on both ends of the floor and playing smart ball it's game over. I also think opponents do not fear playing us because they also know we are not that talented and mentally weak.
You have to give the coach some credit because they were able to squeeze out 12 league wins with these guys including sweeps of MSU, Michigan & Purdue. We just had a great stretch where the shots were falling from many and our opponents missed.
To me it really underscores how difficult it is to win. You have to have multiple guys that can hit shots and score but at the same time are good enough athletes to play really good man D. That's really the issue is we have guys that can do one aspect at most.
Watching these guys play down the stretch you just realize they are not that talented minus JU and Jok and even those 2 have limitations. The other guys have serious flaws in their games. So if everyone is not playing with maximum effort on both ends of the floor and playing smart ball it's game over. I also think opponents do not fear playing us because they also know we are not that talented and mentally weak.
You have to give the coach some credit because they were able to squeeze out 12 league wins with these guys including sweeps of MSU, Michigan & Purdue. We just had a great stretch where the shots were falling from many and our opponents missed.
To me it really underscores how difficult it is to win. You have to have multiple guys that can hit shots and score but at the same time are good enough athletes to play really good man D. That's really the issue is we have guys that can do one aspect at most.
And you for this awesome, totally original and thought-provoking thread! Hope we see more like this down the line when we need to question whether or not it's time for a coach to move on..........
You should head over to the wrestling board and post the same thing about Tom Brands. That's another totally original and thought-provoking thread opportunity just waiting for you to jump into.
Seize the carp!
Agree 100% - yesterday was a perfect example of how limited our guys are. We snuck up on some teams early in the conf season, and once the blue print on how to beat us was figured out (unless we hit shots), we didn't have the options that some teams have of winning multiple ways. MG and AC are super limited offensively; once you realize they can't hurt you often from 3 coupled with no true post offensive threat makes it tough to score at times.
Maybe now that we are out of conf, we can take advantage of our "good" and win a game or two
This thread is a waste of time, and you are an idiot for asking the question. Thank you for that.
Wait... looking at your user name, one might think you to be a football fan.
BTW, where exactly is it that you post most often?
