Trump confirms plans to declare national emergency to implement mass deportation program

[ISUtattooed]

No immigrants were welcome. It was all native-American land.

What is the source? You were responding to a claim that someone said their ancestors were all here legally. What changed to making something legal vs illegal? A law or something maybe?

Does put a damper on my Thanksgiving, the whole concept appears to be a scam.

 

[billanole]

Blows my mind. Mind boggling.

One day I asked one of them, wow, you make more than 400k working for the state? Because that’s who’s going to be taxed. (Under Biden)

Mind bottling is proper HORT terminology, but please carry on.

 

[Joes Place]

What is the source?

You skip early US history, and all the massacres of native Americans by white people?

They didn't just "let" the white devils into their lands, Cletus.

 

[billanole]

What is the source? You were responding to a claim that someone said their ancestors were all here legally. What changed to making something legal vs illegal? A law or something maybe?

Does put a damper on my Thanksgiving, the whole concept appears to be a scam.

You can ask basically any native descendant. They don’t approve of your kin coming into their lands. But, you knew that, right?

 

[TennNole17]

Can't wait to see all of the MAGA flag flyers start complaining on NextDoor that they can't get anyone to clean their home, or paint their house or replace their roof.

 

[billanole]

Which wase did he diss on?

 

[TennNole17]

Which wase did he diss on?

The immigrants? That wase

** how did you even type wace? Took me like three tries cause autocorrect thought I was an idiot multiple times

 

[billanole]

Which wase did he diss on?

The immigrants? That wase

** how did you even type wace? Took me like three tries cause autocorrect thought I was an idiot multiple times

It took several tries. Autocorrect helps me with dumbedge spelling, but I mostly hate it.

 

[bcherod]

You can ask basically any native descendant. They don’t approve of your kin coming into their lands. But, you knew that, right?

He must be an Aleut. They’re the only true native North Americans.

I love how some people say America is for Americans. We’re all immigrants and mutts in this country, the vast majority coming for religious freedom, or getting out of debtors prison, as an indentured servant, or politics.

 

[billanole]

He must be an Aleut. They’re the only true native North Americans.

I love how some people say America is for Americans. We’re all immigrants and mutts in this country, the vast majority coming for religious freedom, or getting out of debtors prison, as an indentured servant, or politics.

Hired Hessian soldiers, treasure hunters, slave traders, prisoners in Georgia, …

 

[Joes Place]

FUNFACT: The "national emergency" declarations and laws that Trump will use to do this were exactly what was used to incarcerate Japanese Americans during WW2.

We'll have to see if the SC allows him to toss his political enemies in to those camps as part of the "emergency", but what we do know is that any "official acts" as President are fully above the law now...

 

[Huey Grey]

They didn’t enforce federal immigration law.

Then why were they down there? Photo ops?

 

[THE_DEVIL]

Then why were they down there? Photo ops?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Then why were they down there? Photo ops?

To assist the Texas Department of Public Safety.

Why do I have to do everything for you people?

Iowa National Guard, Iowa State Patrol to deploy again in support of Operation Lone Star

Governor Reynolds has announced that eight troopers and two sergeants from the Iowa Department of Public Safety (DPS) will deploy March 31, 2024 to Texas in...

governor.iowa.gov

 

[Tom Paris]

We finally lost The Cold War. Kruschev said what was going to happen. He called it.

 

[Gus is dead]

What do you suggest is a “good wage”? How long will the “vetting” process take? Since this is going to be so ridiculously costly, wouldn’t it make more sense to vet the ones already here paying taxes and contributing to the economy and get rid of the ones we don’t want and ensure they never come back?

This is the other point, Gus. Since we’re ostensibly talking about Latinos, most of them are hardworking people grateful for the opportunity. The Americans who would be willing to do the work illegals due are often fat, lazy stoners who aren’t worth a ****.

Trump has broken many more laws and is a convicted felon.

The MAGA idiot brigade doesn’t give two shits about the law unless it lines up with their bigotry.

I am no bigot. Like at all.

I also agree. Latinos work hard, love family, love their community, believe in God. All things I am for. I also agree that many white folks are lazy POS just as you suggest. 100%.

However, I am for deportations. Thery should have come in legally.

But I am also not blind to their plight either. I get it why many want to be here. I just simply don't see how you can let all these individuals flaunt American law like this. I don't get why Biden let in so many either. It was wrong. A majority of Americans are for deportations. 65%.

So lets have an orderly process to bring in immigrants. The process, up til now, has not been orderly and people are getting in that are criminals. All? No but even a handful is more than should be the case if we did this the way it needed to be done the first time. I don't think you can say, "well we didn't do it right recently so oh well, lets try to do better and in a way punish those that did do things the right way when we didn't have such a milquetoast President allowing anyone and everyone who claimed any sort of hardship to come in.

Enough of the felon business. Yep, he is a convicted felon. Yes, it will be overturned. Yes, it was a sham trail and yes, the charges were BS.

A lot of things can be true at once. So the Dems got their talking point. But I'd say that it hurt them more than it helped. I don't think that the rule of law or the natural order of the universe was helped at all by this prosecution. That case was 100% a political prosecution and we should be embarrassed for it.

 

[noleclone2]

 

[Gus is dead]

Your post suggests we need an Ellis Island style system to vet, educate, and integrate newcomers into our society. Why isn’t the incoming President suggesting such a system?
He had four prior years to do that, correct?

4 years prior we didnt have the millions of people in this country that entered in the last 4 years.

I wouldnt mind such a system at all. I also am not President. Yet.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

People voted for this to happen in a landslide. The American public wants this mass deportation to being asap. Way too many daughters and wives have been raped and murdered by these vermin.

if they want to come to America then do it correctly and not come here under the cover of darkness still dripping wet after they crossed the Pecos into America.

 

[Gimmered]

Meat processing and egg production would be dead men walking. Kick out all of the noncitizens and see how breakfast foods take a left turn at Albuquerque, to quote Bugs Bunny.

As well as our dairies.

 

[luvmyhawks]

Can you say depression? 😐

Depression. What do I win?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

How in your mind does that justify it?

It doesn’t justify it. The border needs fixed.

The point is the MIB never cared before until Trump stoked the outrage.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I am no bigot. Like at all.

I also agree. Latinos work hard, love family, love their community, believe in God. All things I am for. I also agree that many white folks are lazy POS just as you suggest. 100%.

However, I am for deportations. Thery should have come in legally.

But I am also not blind to their plight either. I get it why many want to be here. I just simply don't see how you can let all these individuals flaunt American law like this. I don't get why Biden let in so many either. It was wrong. A majority of Americans are for deportations. 65%.

So lets have an orderly process to bring in immigrants. The process, up til now, has not been orderly and people are getting in that are criminals. All? No but even a handful is more than should be the case if we did this the way it needed to be done the first time. I don't think you can say, "well we didn't do it right recently so oh well, lets try to do better and in a way punish those that did do things the right way when we didn't have such a milquetoast President allowing anyone and everyone who claimed any sort of hardship to come in.

Enough of the felon business. Yep, he is a convicted felon. Yes, it will be overturned. Yes, it was a sham trail and yes, the charges were BS.

A lot of things can be true at once. So the Dems got their talking point. But I'd say that it hurt them more than it helped. I don't think that the rule of law or the natural order of the universe was helped at all by this prosecution. That case was 100% a political prosecution and we should be embarrassed for it.

1. I didn’t accuse you of being a bigot and don’t think you are.

2. I am for deportations too.

3. Believing that trying to deport millions of people is impractical and stupid has nothing to do with sensitivity.

4. Trump is a felon. And deservedly so. Those crimes are just the tip of the iceberg of white-collar crimes that morally bankrupt, narcissistic mother ****er is guilty of. Oh, and he’s also a sexual predator. Don’t be glib and stupid. You voted for Trump because of his “policies,” or at least concepts of them. Don’t backtrack and try to defend his character—the man has none.

He is a felon and a rapist. No, I will never stop telling the truth about that. If you don’t like it, I don’t care.

 

[SA_Hawk]

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Can we fly him back and shove his bitch ass out of the plane at 36,000 feet?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

The executive branch abusing "emergency powers" is a problem.

Interesting article from 2023

Congress Warned About Abuses of Presidential Emergency Powers​

Legislators from both parties worry about unilateral power, but they use it when it’s convenient.​

If you worry that the U.S. presidency has turned monarchical, you're not alone. Activists across the political spectrum loudly object to the misuse of emergency powers by the White House to bypass debate—at least when they're not cheering on rule by decree. Supreme Court justices also object to the invocation of special powers to address "emergencies" that never end. And so do lawmakers; last week, members of Congress held a hearing on abuse of emergency powers by the executive branch.

Don't hold your breath waiting for reform.

"The powers triggered by a national emergency declaration include authorities that are highly susceptible to abuse," Elizabeth Goitein, Senior Director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice told members of Congress May 24. "They could be misused to undermine our democracy — and they already have been exploited, by presidents of both parties, to implement long-term policy goals in the face of congressional opposition or inaction. These powers must be subject to meaningful checks against abuse and overreach."

read the rest here...

Congress warned about abuses of presidential emergency powers

If you worry that the U.S. presidency has turned monarchical, you're not alone. Activists across the political spectrum loudly object to the misuse of

reason.com

 

[seminole97]

It doesn’t justify it. The border needs fixed.

The point is the MIB never cared before until Trump stoked the outrage.

Men In Black?

 

[bunsen82]

Imagine a country relying on illegal immigrant labor, their low wages, and crappy working conditions to keep products cheap for Americans. Then when the country's laws are enforced, people complain because they wont be able to get their products as cheaply.

Do I have your argument about correct?

If this is labor we need, bring them in legally, give them visas after they have been thoroughly vetted and pay them good wages.

This has been the issue all along. Have a better immigration policy. So vet the good ones now, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

[bunsen82]

It's hilarious watching the dems pivot from open arms to pretending they were serious about enforcing the law during the campaign, back to open arms.

What a bunch of phony ass people. So glad the American people saw through their bullshit.

You think the pushback on the border was strong from voters just wait. This goes through and he actually does even 10% watch the repercussions. Your poor fellow constituents will be complaining left and right about inflation.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

You think the pushback on the border was strong from voters just wait. This goes through and he actually does even 10% watch the repercussions. Your poor fellow constituents will be complaining left and right about inflation.

Inflation goes up if 10% of illegal immigrants get deported?

I have my doubts.

 

[seminole97]

Imagine a country relying on illegal immigrant labor, their low wages, and crappy working conditions to keep products cheap for Americans. Then when the country's laws are enforced, people complain because they wont be able to get their products as cheaply.

Do I have your argument about correct?

If this is labor we need, bring them in legally, give them visas after they have been thoroughly vetted and pay them good wages.

Democrats don’t think we have a sufficient underclass to meet their economic and political ends, so they’re using tax dollars to ship one in.

 

[bunsen82]

Inflation goes up if 10% of illegal immigrants get deported?

I have my doubts.

Guaranteed. Look at it this way, the immigration policies from June of 2019 took 12 months before they started showing in inflation data. You stop the inflow of immigrants and remove 10%, good luck. What happens when you leave a 3-4% in the shortfall of several industries, you will have to raise the wages of entire workforce to get the necessary workers to complete the job.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Guaranteed. Look at it this way, the immigration policies from June of 2019 took 12 months before they started showing in inflation data. You stop the inflow of immigrants and remove 10%, good luck. What happens when you leave a 3-4% in the shortfall of several industries, you will have to raise the wages of entire workforce to get the necessary workers to complete the job.

You're blaming 2021-2023 inflation on curbing illegal immigration in 2019.

GTFO with that 😅

 

[NoWokeBloke]

Six pages of liberal tears. Love it!

 

[bunsen82]

Your blaming 2021-2023 inflation on curbing illegal immigration in 2019.

GTFO with that 😅

You disagree with the fed chair? Workplace shortages were showing up in early 2020. With some policy errors became more evident. But yes unless you think you are smarter than fed chair Powell.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

Didn't we just have a red wave election? Why are you acting surprised? Trump caved to the libs during their Covid pity party, and I think he regrets it. There will be no caving this go around. No catering to lib feelings.

It's going to be 4 years of unfettered conservatism, unfettered capitalism, and it’s going to be beautiful.

It will almost be like a Blitzkrieg... for your lib buttholes.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

You disagree with the fed chair? Workplace shortages were showing up in early 2020. With some policy errors became more evident. But yes unless you think you are smarter than fed chair Powell.

I don't see him blaming curbing illegal immigration....

When recounting the surge in inflation starting in 2021, Powell largely blamed supply-chain disruptions from the pandemic, widespread labor shortages and pentup demand for goods because people were still afraid to get out and about.
Yet he also noted that "stimulative policies" in the U.S. and abroad contributed to the demand.
What were those stimulative policies?
The Fed, for its part, slashed a key short-term U.S. interest rate to zero and bought trillions of dollars in Treasury bonds and mortgage-backed securities.
Those moves led to zero-percent auto loans and the lowest mortgage rates in decades , among other things, and it made it dirt-cheap for consumers and businesses to borrow and invest.
The Trump and Biden administrations, as Powell noted, also pumped trillions of dollars in the economy with payouts to most families and businesses. The federal stimulus added to the surge in demand for goods that fueled the outbreak in inflation.
"Congress delivered substantial additional fiscal support in late 2020 and again in early 2021," Powell said. "Spending recovered strongly in the first half of 2021."
Was it worth it? Powell thinks so.
"The arrival of the COVID-19 pandemic led quickly to shutdowns in economies around the world. It was a time of radical uncertainty and severe downside risks," he said.
"As so often happens in times of crisis, Americans adapted and innovated. Governments responded with extraordinary force, especially in the U.S. Congress unanimously passed the CARES Act."

The inflation surge had many causes, Powell says. Government stimulus was one of them.

Top Federal Reserve officials and Wall Street economists blame a confluence of factors for the worst U.S. inflation since the 1980s, but Fed Chairman Jerome Powell acknowledged government stimulus play a role. When recounting the surge in inflation starting in 2021, Powell largely blamed supply-cha

www.marketwatch.com

 

[prlyles]

This is why I think the Dems should not try to obstruct Trump’s plans. Let him do what he wants.

• If he succeeds without negative consequences, then great! America wins.
• If he fails to implement because of incompetence (highly likely) then great, America learns that Trump and team are f*ckups who can’t govern their way out of a paper bag. America wins.
• If he does partially implement with the negative consequences I expect then we will have a rough few years, but again America learns that Trump is a snake oil salesman promising things he didn’t deliver. While this sucks, at least we excise MAGA bullshit from our politics. America learns a tough lesson, but it is still a win in the end.

The only problem with this is The American people knew all this about him but still elected him.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Men In Black?

MAGA Idiot Brigade.

Inventing an acronym is easier than continuing to type it out on my phone. Not that you care, but that is not directed at you or all Trump voters. Just the large chunk who are very stupid primates.

 

[bunsen82]

I don't see him blaming curbing illegal immigration....

When recounting the surge in inflation starting in 2021, Powell largely blamed supply-chain disruptions from the pandemic, widespread labor shortages and pentup demand for goods because people were still afraid to get out and about.
Yet he also noted that "stimulative policies" in the U.S. and abroad contributed to the demand.
What were those stimulative policies?
The Fed, for its part, slashed a key short-term U.S. interest rate to zero and bought trillions of dollars in Treasury bonds and mortgage-backed securities.
Those moves led to zero-percent auto loans and the lowest mortgage rates in decades , among other things, and it made it dirt-cheap for consumers and businesses to borrow and invest.
The Trump and Biden administrations, as Powell noted, also pumped trillions of dollars in the economy with payouts to most families and businesses. The federal stimulus added to the surge in demand for goods that fueled the outbreak in inflation.
"Congress delivered substantial additional fiscal support in late 2020 and again in early 2021," Powell said. "Spending recovered strongly in the first half of 2021."
Was it worth it? Powell thinks so.
"The arrival of the COVID-19 pandemic led quickly to shutdowns in economies around the world. It was a time of radical uncertainty and severe downside risks," he said.
"As so often happens in times of crisis, Americans adapted and innovated. Governments responded with extraordinary force, especially in the U.S. Congress unanimously passed the CARES Act."

The inflation surge had many causes, Powell says. Government stimulus was one of them.

Top Federal Reserve officials and Wall Street economists blame a confluence of factors for the worst U.S. inflation since the 1980s, but Fed Chairman Jerome Powell acknowledged government stimulus play a role. When recounting the surge in inflation starting in 2021, Powell largely blamed supply-cha

www.marketwatch.com

Fed Chair Finds Trump-Era Immigration Policies Still Harm Economy

Fed Chair Jerome Powell said Trump-era immigration policies have contributed to inflation and continue to damage the U.S. economy.

www.forbes.com

 

[bunsen82]

Bins if you read the article there were other things going on. But the policies created a 2 million shortfall in labor. 2-4 million shortfall will show up. Tougher immigration and deportation is a recipe for inflation.