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Trump supporters - what was Trump doing on Epstein’s airplane and island?

Read the next sentence dude. Of course it matters big picture, I was saying it is academic relative to the presidency because the other sh*t he did was already disqualifying.
I answered your final question.


I could drive you yo west Glen and point at the people ****ing side pieces.





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Why are you so against a dude stepping out on his wife but don't apply any of that criteria to the female who ****ed a married dude?
 
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I answered your final question.


I could drive you yo west Glen and point at the people ****ing side pieces.





Counter question:



Why are you so against a dude stepping out on his wife but don't apply any of that criteria to the female who ****ed a married dude?
you know that the allegations against trump go well beyond "stepping out on his wife", right?

do you just not care about those or automatically think those are false?
 
Because I care more about America continuing to be a democracy than acting like I give a shir about infidelity in wealthy marriages.

I am faithful to my wife, that's what I'm accountable for.
Every single thing I listed is factual, backed up by hard evidence and/or jury verdict. And yet you cherry picked 2 of the 10 items to make your case. Do the others not matter?

As to the threat to democracy? WTF? I see this more and more coming from the GOP. How exactly is Kamala going to turn us into an undemocratic state? Hell, even if she wanted to she would have to fight through an ultra conservative Supreme Court, a deadlocked congress and a constitutional amendment process so convoluted that we can’t even pass an amendment that says women have equal rights to men. How the hell is she going to destroy democracy?
 
Every single thing I listed is factual, backed up by hard evidence and/or jury verdict. And yet you cherry picked 2 of the 10 items to make your case. Do the others not matter?

As to the threat to democracy? WTF? I see this more and more coming from the GOP. How exactly is Kamala going to turn us into an undemocratic state? Hell, even if she wanted to she would have to fight through an ultra conservative Supreme Court, a deadlocked congress and a constitutional amendment process so convoluted that we can’t even pass an amendment that says women have equal rights to men. How the hell is she going to destroy democracy?


We are getting past the point of plausible deniability
 
I answered your final question.


I could drive you yo west Glen and point at the people ****ing side pieces.





Counter question:



Why are you so against a dude stepping out on his wife but don't apply any of that criteria to the female who ****ed a married dude?
A legally separated for a long time "married dude"? Sure, that's equivalent.

You leave no doubt.

Willie Brown, the former mayor of San Francisco and longtime Speaker of the California State Assembly, had been legally separated from his wife, Blanche Vitero, for many years before his relationship with Kamala Harris began in the mid-1990s.

Brown and Vitero separated in the 1980s but never divorced. By the time Brown and Harris started dating around 1994, Brown had been legally separated for about a decade or more. His relationship with Harris, which lasted until around 1995, occurred well after his separation from his wife.
 
I answered your final question.


I could drive you yo west Glen and point at the people ****ing side pieces.





Counter question:



Why are you so against a dude stepping out on his wife but don't apply any of that criteria to the female who ****ed a married dude?
First, as I understand it, the guy she slept with had already left his wife and was in the process of a divorce, but the divorce was not yet finalized. And even if he was still together, Kamala swore no oath of fidelity to the other woman, she had zero obligation to her. Trump had an obligation. He was the one in the relationship, he was the one who swore an oath, he was the father of a newborn.

That not withstanding, what about the other 8 issues I listed?
 
First, as I understand it, the guy she slept with had already left his wife and was in the process of a divorce, but the divorce was not yet finalized. And even if he was still together, Kamala swore no oath of fidelity to the other woman, she had zero obligation to her. Trump had an obligation. He was the one in the relationship, he was the one who swore an oath, he was the father of a newborn.

That not withstanding, what about the other 8 issues I listed?
I'm going to be busy for the next hour or so. I'll hit you back.


I'll leave with this though, that dude got his life gone through with a microscope and they found a girl who was willing to say he grabbed her cloth 30 years ago and found out a dude with an arranged marriage was ****ingnaround in his wife.


If any of these people went through that I think we would find as much or more.


I'll be back.
 
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My point in making my list is that it does not matter if Trump is, or is not, a pedophile. His other sexual behaviors, including liability for sexual assault, are MORE than enough to disqualify him for office.

You are doing this funny rhetorical trick where you make it all-or-nothing about pedophilia. As if the other things I listed aren’t factual and gravely concerning in their own right. Any one of those would sink most GOP politicians back when the party valued . . . umm . . . values.

Let me ask you point blank: why don’t the facts I listed matter in your choice for President?
Once again, the stuff that Trump gets a pass on that would demolish any other candidates career is mind-boggling.
I answered your final question.


I could drive you yo west Glen and point at the people ****ing side pieces.





Counter question:



Why are you so against a dude stepping out on his wife but don't apply any of that criteria to the female who ****ed a married dude?
This goes well beyond stepping out on his wife once, he gave you an entire list.
 
I'm going to be busy for the next hour or so. I'll hit you back.


I'll leave with this though, that dude got his life gone through with a microscope and they found a girl who was willing to say he grabbed her cloth 30 years ago and found out a dude with an arranged marriage was ****ingnaround in his wife.


If any of these people went through that I think we would find as much or more.


I'll be back.
again...it is WAY more than one girl

if this is news to you, this is probably a subject you should sit out until you do some reading
 
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What I’m hearing is guys like Trad will willingly vote for a pedophile because the democrats may have voted for one, unknowingly, 30 years ago. Every single day these guys post something that you just can’t make up.

We've lost our way as a nation when half the population puts their party over their country and principles. And they wonder why we call them a cult.
 


We are getting past the point of plausible deniability
Kamala is going to destroy democracy because CBS has a left leaning political bias?

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What I’m hearing is guys like Trad will willingly vote for a pedophile because the democrats may have voted for one, unknowingly, 30 years ago. Every single day these guys post something that you just can’t make up.
It's as if they have no morality. So ironic considering they want to set the moral code for the country. Especially the Chrisitan nationalists.
 
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I answered your final question.


I could drive you yo west Glen and point at the people ****ing side pieces.





Counter question:



Why are you so against a dude stepping out on his wife but don't apply any of that criteria to the female who ****ed a married dude?
When was she found liable for sexual assault? How many times was she on Epstein’s plane? When did she brag about forcefully grabbing men by the dick on a hot mic? When did she walk in on underage boys undressing? When did she sexualize her underage son?
 
I answered your final question.


I could drive you yo west Glen and point at the people ****ing side pieces.





Counter question:



Why are you so against a dude stepping out on his wife but don't apply any of that criteria to the female who ****ed a married dude?
The only people who care about her stepping out with a married dude are old white dues on the right. She was elected three times. No amount of misogyny from the right will change that. It might be different if she'd had kids with three people. You might be onto something there.
 
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We've lost our way as a nation when half the population puts a convicted felon that has lost multiple civil cases who boasts about sexually assaulting women and has continually failed up in life, over their country and principles. And they wonder why we call them a cult.
FIFY
 
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It is a well known fact serial killers, rapists, and predators often like to keep trophies to remind them of their time with victims.

Trump has the biggest Trophy of all from his time palling around with Epstein, not counting the island itself. And even uses it occasionally on campaign. Amazing how little press this has got. It should have been all the press talked about for two days when it came to light.

 
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When was she found liable for sexual assault? How many times was she on Epstein’s plane? When did she brag about forcefully grabbing men by the dick on a hot mic? When did she walk in on underage boys undressing? When did she sexualize her underage son?
You do realize you are talking about the lady who said "rape is sexy" right?
 
if there was a video that surfaced of Trump and Tim Walz in the same room, taking turns raping a boy the Dems on here would excuse Walz’ participation and the Pubs would excuse Trump’s.
This is an outright lie

Democrats forced Al Frankin to resign from the Senate when an old photo surfaced of him doing a minor objectionable thing.

Trump gets away with anything and Republicans are okay with it
 
Let’s talk about what we do know on Trump. There are so many in the sex arena that I’ll just keep it to 10:
  1. He willingly and repeatedly associated with someone who he damn well knew was a pedophile.
You don't know this, that's like saying "orprah" knew.


  1. He is quoted as saying the pedophile “liked them young”, reinforcing his knowledge
There is a reason 18 year old porn exist. I'm 39, if I said someone liked them you that would mean someone in their 20s. That isn't pedophilia.


  1. He spoke lots of praise for the pedophile Epstein until Epstein became the subject of police attention.
Probably because he didn't realize who the guy was behind the curtain.


  1. He went into a pageant dressing room with underage girls changing…and bragged about it

He bragged about Miss America.

  1. He talked about the sexiness of his own underage daughter
Gross. Link?

  1. He spoke about how he wanted to say “sex” was something he had in common with his daughter

what?
  1. He talked on tape about grabbing women (age not specified) by the pu$$y
I love grabbing pussy, you should try it.

Ever been in a locker room?



  1. He is liable for sexual assault to the tune of hundreds of millions
A jury found him guilty of grabbing a woman's crotch. A woman that cannot tell the same story twice. In an event that happened 2 years before the dress she was supposedly wearing was even created, but those details don't matter.


  1. He cheated on his wife who was at home with a newborn then tried to cover up the pornstar affair for purposes of getting elected
Yeah, not great, that doesn't impact his ability to run a country. If some morale standard is in order I'd encourage you to vote for mother Teresa.


  1. He had multiple well documented affairs previous to that.
Outstanding.


I care about our country not his ability to remain faithful to his paid for bride.


And this is the hill you want to die on? For Trump? Why would you want this immoral, disgusting person anywhere near the most powerful and prestigious position in the entire world? Even if his policies were great (they are mostly hot air) what possible end justifies Trump as the means?

I cannot fathom why a party that used to believe in values has decided it is ok to turn a blind eye to such immorality. He is the pied piper telling you what you want to hear but reality is very different.

And after all that, the devil you are hiding, is worse.
 
You don't know this, that's like saying "orprah" knew.



There is a reason 18 year old porn exist. I'm 39, if I said someone liked them you that would mean someone in their 20s. That isn't pedophilia.



Probably because he didn't realize who the guy was behind the curtain.




He bragged about Miss America.


Gross. Link?



what?

I love grabbing pussy, you should try it.

Ever been in a locker room?




A jury found him guilty of grabbing a woman's crotch. A woman that cannot tell the same story twice. In an event that happened 2 years before the dress she was supposedly wearing was even created, but those details don't matter.



Yeah, not great, that doesn't impact his ability to run a country. If some morale standard is in order I'd encourage you to vote for mother Teresa.



Outstanding.


I care about our country not his ability to remain faithful to his paid for bride.




And after all that, the devil you are hiding, is worse.
The rationalizations here are incredible.
 
What did they actually find him guilty of?


You can do it.



If I say "that dude raped a chick" you didn't just imagine a crotch grab.




Then thr chick keeps the panties for 25 plus years.

Makes total sense.


While fantasizing "rape is sexy".
Kaplan has also pointed to the size of the jury's sexual abuse award − more than $2 million − as bolstering his conclusion that the verdict was based on finding Trump forcibly penetrated Carroll with his hand.

And that act, in common modern speech, is rape, Kaplan said.

As he later summed it up in August, when he dismissed Trump's countersuit: "It accordingly is the 'truth,' as relevant here, that Mr. Trump digitally raped Ms. Carroll."
 
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Kaplan has also pointed to the size of the jury's sexual abuse award − more than $2 million − as bolstering his conclusion that the verdict was based on finding Trump forcibly penetrated Carroll with his hand.

And that act, in common modern speech, is rape, Kaplan said.

As he later summed it up in August, when he dismissed Trump's countersuit: "It accordingly is the 'truth,' as relevant here, that Mr. Trump digitally raped Ms. Carroll."
"Finger banged."


Supposedly. And she kept the panties for over 2 decades, because, "rape is sexy".

A lady that cannot physically tell the same story twice.
 
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