Sure. We should just believe you…even though I know you would LOVE for it to happen.
So you’ll make the bet that Trump will be on the ballot for a third term in 2028?
I would LOVE for you to make that bet with me.
Sure. We should just believe you…even though I know you would LOVE for it to happen.
I’m willing to bet you too.He'll make up some bs lawsuit about how the world still needs him or he was screwed in 2020 and deserves another term. It gets to SCOTUS and you have the people who keep interpreting the constitution how best fits them say " You know trumps right. Clearly the people who wrote the 22nd didn't see these circumstances coming. We declare Trump can run again but only in this instance no one else"
@BelemNoleElections are run by the States.
He won’t be on the ballots because he’d be ineligible.
If you genuinely believe otherwise, let’s make a bet.
Trump isn't the one to clean that up, though. As I mentioned earlier, his approach wouldn't involve cleaning up; instead, he would aim to dismantle any opposition attempting to uphold the law and established procedures. If change is desired, it should be pursued through the appropriate channels, rather than being influenced by King Trump's personal preferences.Tell you the truth, I’m not a fan of bureaucrats. They seem not to answer to anyone. Let’s face it, the American people are lazy and have short attention spans. They vote mainly off name recognition or what letter is besides the persons name.
I think there are plenty of rogue bureaucrats who have their own fiefdoms and agendas. I personally would like to see a lot of it cleaned up. Hell I worked in the public sector for about 5 years and saw it first hand. After I left some stories came out about my particular department that were posted on this very message board. All I could do was nod in agreement with about 90% of the stuff that was written. It was a septic tank.
You want to bet on whether or not he'll be on a ballot? Not whether or not he'd try to retain power? Sounds like you're not very confident in your position.
If Trump hadn't tried to stay in power after losing the last election I would agree with you that it's a conspiracy theory. However, after fake electors, asking governors to find him more votes, pressuring Pence to not certify the election, etc. their is enough evidence based on past behavior to believe he would try again.
Hopefully, the American people will vote against Trump in November and this won't be a concern.
He'll make up some bs lawsuit about how the world still needs him or he was screwed in 2020 and deserves another term. It gets to SCOTUS and you have the people who keep interpreting the constitution how best fits them say " You know trumps right. Clearly the people who wrote the 22nd didn't see these circumstances coming. We declare Trump can run again but only in this instance no one else"
Trump isn't the one to clean that up, though. As I mentioned earlier, his approach wouldn't involve cleaning up; instead, he would aim to dismantle any opposition attempting to uphold the law and established procedures. If change is desired, it should be pursued through the appropriate channels, rather than being influenced by King Trump's personal preferences.
None of those 34 convictions are tied to his behavior trying to retain the Presidency.Sounds like he’ll be found guilty again and we can move that 34 counts to 35 counts.
Sounds good to me. Stability.What you aren't getting is the constitution means very little to MAGA anymore. You think this Supreme Court won't twist things around and "interpret" things so that they get their way? What have they done to show you they won't go there? If Trump does win they will be emboldened. They will definitely amplify the bullshit they have been pulling.
None of those 34 convictions are tied to his behavior trying to retain the Presidency.
I'm sure it does to some degree but I also think a lot of those bureaucrats kept Trump from really harming the country the last go around.I kinda agree, but then who makes that decision to clean it up? I’m not even sure if you agree it needs to be changed or not.
I'm sure it does to some degree but I also think a lot of those bureaucrats kept Trump from really harming the country the last go around.
All felonies are bad, but all felonies are not equal. I'm much more concerned about his behavior regarding January 6th and not returning classified documents than the falsifying documents case he was convicted on. Unfortunately the courts have managed to delay those trials until most likely after the election. However, you are correct Trump is a felon.You’re right but a felon is a felon
All felonies are bad, but all felonies are not equal. I'm much more concerned about his behavior regarding January 6th and not returning classified documents than the falsifying documents case he was convicted on. Unfortunately the courts have managed to delay those trials until most likely after the election. However, you are correct Trump is a felon.
Are you talking about the 34 counts Trump has been convicted on? None of those are related to the classified documents case. He has been charged with 32 counts regarding the documents and 8 counts relating to his behavior trying to retain the Presidency. That trial date has not been scheduled.In that case we should wait for justice to be served. Remember not all 34 counts are because he didn’t give the documents back. As a matter of principle, merely having them were a crime…….which fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your views) we’ve seen a lot of people do the same thing and not been charged let alone found guilty.
Like Ronny Jackson did with Trump or any of the GOP flufflers during Trump's term?A lot of bureaucrats may have been behind hiding the current POTUS’ “limitations” from the American public as well.
I’ll take both.You want to bet on whether or not he'll be on a ballot? Not whether or not he'd try to retain power? Sounds like you're not very confident in your position.
So you don't deny there could be serious efforts, in multiple states, to get Trump on the ballot. Serious enough that in some cases people will actually take it to a court.
If that happens, my prediction is correct.
Either or both?I’ll take both.
If he wins in November he will not be on the November 2028 ballot for the US presidential election, AND he’ll be out of the White House January 21, 2029.
Do you have enough confidence otherwise to wager on this?
Are you talking about the 34 counts Trump has been convicted on? None of those are related to the classified documents case. He has been charged with 32 counts regarding the documents and 8 counts relating to his behavior trying to retain the Presidency. That trial date has not been scheduled.
Trumps Court Cases
They won't explicitly say just trump but they will say it only applies in this situation. They basically did that in Bush v Gore.Anyone can bring a suit for any reason. That’s not new. It remains to be seen that the SCOTUS is some boogeyman. Your last sentence is utter nonsense.
You couldn't recognize what is dumb if it smacked you in the face.JFC this thread - which I stopped reading because I could feel grey matter starting to ache - is some of the dumbest crap I’ve read on here and that’s saying something.
My God. It is right up there with every fear tactic the Democrats are trying to get people to believe.I’ve been reading some threads here tonight and some posters believe that Trump will stay in office past a second term. Is this a well known belief and is it possible that Vegas would have some action on this?
Willing to make it a parlay in your favor.Either or both?
I'm willing to bet that if he wins this year he will attempt to remain in 2028.
They won't explicitly say just trump but they will say it only applies in this situation. They basically did that in Bush v Gore.
That really sounds like you're not very confident that he won't try to stay in power given the chance. Nice to see even you acknowledge that. Even if it isn't outright.Willing to make it a parlay in your favor.
I would bet if he wins this November he won’t be on the ballot for President in November 2028 AND he’ll be out of the White House on January 21, 2029.
Those are objective and readily agreeable.
Well aren’t you just a badass…😏You couldn't recognize what is dumb if it smacked you in the face.
I saw people spontaneously organize to put Ross Perot on the ballot in 50 states in 1992. I wouldn’t bet whether or not anyone might try, what I am willing to bet is upon their success if they do.
Do you want to bet whether or not he’d be on the November presidential ballot in 2028 if he wins this November?
Maybe you misunderstood.That really sounds like you're not very confident that he won't try to stay in power given the chance. Nice to see even you acknowledge that. Even if it isn't outright.
First, Perot was eligible.
I said he would try, and there would be serious effects to make it happen.. You asked if I wanted to bet on it. I accepted, but since then you’ve been trying to change the bet. I’m pretty sure you know I’m right.
Elections are run by the States.
He won’t be on the ballots because he’d be ineligible.
If you genuinely believe otherwise, let’s make a bet.
Give me odds. It’s not great at this point. Just that it’s not that far fetched.Elections are run by the States.
He won’t be on the ballots because he’d be ineligible.
If you genuinely believe otherwise, let’s make a bet.
Again, neither of those address him whether or not he tries to stay in office by other means. You’re betting that he won’t be on the ballot and that he’ll be out. But that Leaves a whole lot of shit that could and likely would happen.Maybe you misunderstood.
I’m saying if either of those happen you win, I need both to not happen for me to win the bet.
I would bet if he wins this November he won’t be on the ballot for President in November 2028 AND he’ll be out of the White House on January 21, 2029.
Will you accept, or do you not have faith in the fears you’ve expressed here?
So we can count you out on the bet?Again, neither of those address him whether or not he tries to stay in office by other means. You’re betting that he won’t be on the ballot and that he’ll be out. But that Leaves a whole lot of shit that could and likely would happen.
I'm not sure about that, but the fact that we're even entertaining the thought is indicative of a real problem.Of course he would try to stay. I would think that’s a given. And he would have nearly universal support from the GOP. It’s hard to imagine otherwise,
lol, I’m willing to bet that he will try to stay I the white house past his term. You don’t seem confident about taking that bet - probably because of what he did last time.So we can count you out on the bet?
You don't want to bet that he will be out of the the WH January 21st, 2029, if he wins this November?
That means you're unwilling to make the 'dictatorship' and 'end of democracy' bet you keep fear mongering.
You are just now realizing this? You must be slower than I thought.The MAGA cult sucks.
Because I don't know what you will claim is him trying to stay.lol, I’m willing to bet that he will try to stay I the white house past his term. You don’t seem confident about taking that bet - probably because of what he did last time.
You are just now realizing this? You must be slower than I thought.