But, again, wouldn't the easier pathway be for the schools with the clout to leave and join up with others that would also be leaving their respective conferences? That would seem like the smoother pathway than "kicking out" members that are perceived as football dead weight.
UCLA/USC to B1G?!?!?!
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Good point about research grants
But at the same time Big 10 are not going to bring in schools is dwindle the pie if they cannot kick out some of the teams who take more than they give. So unless you can boot Rutgers out, the value of Oregon or Washington I don't think increase everyone's share of revenue.
One thing is for sure no Conferences or ADs outside of the B10 will trust anything coming out of the B1G HQs , What Warren did to the so called Alliance Members was akin to getting invited over to a business associate's House, seducing Their barely legal Twin Daughters , knocking em both up and cleaning out the Families bank accounts and going to live in luxury off grid . Warren did the PAC12 Filthy rotten .
My thoughts too, this seems very odd and unlikely to me
You form an alliance then screw 1/2 of the other 2 members immediately.
Seems questionable to me
Meh, it’s us or them. The alliances was BS from the start. They had a “handshake agreement” lol gtfo
I feel like ND to the B1G is just a formality at this point.
The ACC is dead in the water. Clemson will bolt the second they get the SEC offer, and maybe take FSU and Miami with them.
ND is just so much of a better fit in the B1G than the SEC anyways:
-Perfect geographical location
-Much greater emphasis on academics
-Similar cultures and styles of play
-Plenty of traditional rivals that would welcome their games back with open arms
There's a reason the B1G has been after ND for decades.
Dodd was just on CBS sports radio and he said that his Big 10 sources said Oregon and Washington didn't bring enough to the Big 10 to justify bringing them in.
USC and UCLA reached out to the B1G, not the other way around.
I'm the complete opposite of a Kevin Warren fan, but those two were leaving the Pac-12 regardless, they just happened to ask the B1G first.
Regardless of terminology (i.e. "kicking out"/"booting"/"leaving and restructuring"), the question is where do certain schools fall in the pecking order when the super conferences are finalized? What will be driving the decisions?
A good friend of mine once wisely recommended that college football needs to form its own conferences and all other sports need to retain their geographic based conference alignments.
In what world does it make financial sense for Iowa's non-revenue producing teams travel to LA for "conference" contests?
We are QUICKLY moving to a single super conf in cfb and I doubt we make the cut honestly
Warren’s gotta be just strutting around his office on the Bluetooth, pantsless, absolutely swingin’ that thang around rn.
What did we get last year from the big ten and how much will we be getting with this new tv deal?
The ACC may be dead in the water, but not until 2036, when their GOR expires. The buyout to leave the ACC is too big. I don’t know if ND is included in the GOR or not.
Standing pat for now but there's no way the B1G won't be at least 20 teams in the near future. We are waiting on ND as you'd have to think at some point they see the writing on the wall and make a move.
I'm guessing Oregon and Washington will be in the B1G at some point.
They'd make their buyout back in heartbeat, and that's not counting on whether or not the B1G would help front the buyout.
Also I'd be surprised if they were fully included since they're not even full members.
If they go to 20 teams and the SEC matches, I really hope they go to something like a 13 game schedule with one pushover, 10 conference games and then one guaranteed home/away non conference matchup with someone in the SEC.
My guess is they're going to get enough $ when the next media rights deal is all said and done that the share per school will be at minimum what it had been, and most likely more than that.
Dodd literall tweeted that the BIG is standing pat for now waiting on NDs decision. Things with Oregon and Washington are not done yet.
If Stanford wanted in, wouldn't they have a good case? Superb academics and a huge TV market.
About the only way I seeing staying with the PAC works out is if something can be formed between the remaining PAC schools and B12 schools. They maybe add in the remaining ACC schools after the B10 & SEC get done purging from it.
This is going to get interesting as there's no doubt some schools are going to be left on the outside looking in. No room in the inn for everyone.
As someone else pointed out this is the road the big 12 went down and the whole thing went to shit. Whats made the BIG stand strong is that they've stood together and shared the wealth. I think the fact that they've stood strong is one of the major selling points of the BIG, their unity and the fact that their not going anywhere. As to greed overtaking OSU and M, here's my question. My understanding is that these schools operate as non profits, is that not the case? So if there getting say 90 million per year why would it be so important to boot teams like Iowa. Don't the schools have to spend all that $$ every year? So they go from 55 mil to 90 mil, and have to spend another 35 mil per year, on what? Do you really think they'll need to be in a rush to lower the number. Maybe so, hell I don't know though.
Well Oregon, and Washington have been told the B1G is standing pat for now. They are waiting for_________ to respond.
Any guesses as to who the diva they are waiting for.
1.) Notre Dame
2.) Miami
3.) Stanford
4.) Iowa State
5.) Queen of England
Any guesses as to who the diva they are waiting for.
1.) Notre Dame
2.) Miami
3.) Stanford
4.) Iowa State
5.) Queen of England
Thats another interesting point. OSU needs to keep winning 10-12 games a year so do they really want to push out all those teams?
I'd have to think that the remaining 10 Pac-12 teams are in control and not the Big 12.
Assuming the B1G and SEC stay at 16 teams, I could seee the Pac-12 grabbing Okie St, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas St, BYU and Boise St, with ISU, TCU, TT, UCF, UC, WV and UH being SOL.
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Shouldn't be an issue "financially" if all the teams are getting 90 mil per year just from TV revenue......
Still pretty lopsided, as far as high-end competition goes. Would remain so until teams like USC, UCLA and Neb return to their glory days.
LOL Iowa isnt being kicked from the conference. The only team I could see the Big Ten asking to step down would be Northwestern and even then, I don't see that happening either.
Cal would be invited before either Arizona school.
I would think Big 12 has the leverage.
The PAC 12 Media deal expires after 2023.
The Big 12 after 2024
I am guessing any media deal that the PAC 12 cuts would require, said teams to be in the league in 2024
Not sure how GOR works in terms of votes or what happens to that.. And it would be fascinating to see how receptive Stanford and Cal would be to having BYU and Baylor in the Pac 12. But these times make strange bedfellows so anything is possible.
Any conference that has Oregon or Washington is still unstable, because even though they may not get picked up this go round, probably a matter of time before they do. So many more questions than answers at this point.
yes this is a great point. The OSU, Michigan, Penn State, USC, Oklahoma, etc., have no interest in being in a league with just other powerhouse teams like themselves. If you created a 16 or 20-team league with nothing but the blue bloods of college FB, half the teams are going .500 or less. They aren't signing up for that. Period.
As long as OSU and Michigan, et al, see a path to both having great revenue and competing for titles, they have no interest in kicking out members of the Big Ten. Of course, conditions can change but don't see a scenario where they are looking to force Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue and Iowa out and invite in ND, Oregon, Clemson and Florida State.
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